new TV Channel -- perhaps too ambitious?

I'm intrested in making some short content for SLTV as an indy filmaker,but not a whole network of programing or anything large scale.Anyone getting a proposal together IM in game me to chat about possible contributions I could make.

Add George Hamilton and I'd pay migs and megs of L$ to see that.

Again, Siggy, I think you are exaggerating the requirements of the project. All we are looking for here is a group willing to expand on what currently exists on the home page and use the avatar-as-camera concept in creative ways for four hours a day. Using editing suites (FC Pro, Media 100, Premier etc.) to create broadcast quality news stories is completely optional. I have an M.A. in Radio and Television and I don't think you're making an entirely accurate comparison between television news production and what is required here. Maybe I just shouldn't have called it SLTV ? It seemed like a catchy name at the time...

Yarrrrr, now *that* be some foine programmin', alrighty! I want my SLTV!

Thank you, Mem.

Well I think I'm being absolutely accurate - if we were talking about independant filmaking, my estimates would have been much higher..

Now if you want 4 hours of wallpaper video a day - then fine.. but you asked for content.. and although a plywood prim is content - alone it does not a building make.

Video production takes time, effort and manpower in order to make any kind of compelling content.. and 5 people to produce 4 hours of content A DAY, is certainly NOT an accurate estimate of the time and manpower required.

And like I said - I've been DOING this for nearly a decade, not talking about it, or reading about it - and as the recipient of an Emmy, and multiple Electronic Media Awards.. I think I know what I'm talking about.

Siggy.

Good lord will you two just whip out your dicks already and get it over with?

I'm going to side with Siggy, here. Four hours of an occasionally repositioned but otherwise static shot is going to be less than compelling. Doing something worth watching for longer than two minutes is going to take a lot of time. And if it's not worth watching for more than two minutes, why bother with four hours of it?

*plays porn groove from his cellphone*

I'm sorry Cris... I'll make sure to make a similar comment the next time someone dismisses your carreer and expertise and opinion with a wave of a paper and a last name.. ok?

Siggy.

I have not seen anywhere in this thread where you have been dismissed, Siggy. I saw Jessie expressing the opinion that he does also know what he is talking about - and that what you are suggesting is overkill versus what they are asking for. You just dismissed his career, opinion, and expertise with the same condescension you are accusing him of, it seems.

I beleive I was putting forward an accurate idea of the manpower required for such a project... Hardly overkill.. if It was overkill I'd have been suggesting the scale of a real world operation.. when in effect I was suggesting a low end to make the length of video they would require.

But eh, god forbid I disagree eh? Sorry I'm just laying it out there as it is... and if I have to put out some RL credentials to show that I know what the hell I'm talking about, I don't consider that dick slinging.. Your milage may vary..

Also I don't think I'm dismissing their carreer.... I didn't say anything about working for a game company.

Siggy.

You are free to disagree - I didn't even say I agreed or disagreed with you - I think the whole scope of the project is unrealistic, personally. God forbid Jessie disagree with you, however, it seems. I haven't seen your credentials, talent, or knowledge dismissed at all - it however also does not mean that your word is gold alone and that no one else has valid input on the issue.

I'm so very glad I have your permission to do that Cris...

And I'd like to know where I said that Cris.. honestly, could you please dig that up for me?

Directed at Jessie, that reads as if you are saying that he simply has a degree, but you with your wealth of experience and Emmy and awards know what you are talking about (and he doesn't).

I can do this.

It's just improv theatre. No scripts, pre-production or post-production is required.

I'm willing to commit to three 30 minute slots per week.

One slot will be tall tales. Interesting Avatars sit around and tell interesting stories.
Not very much motion, but I can guarantee that the text will be compelling.

Another slot will be airborne adventures. Interesting Avatars fly around in Interesting Airships.
Not very much plot, but interesting ships, scenery and crazy vehicle dynamics. (bouncing through the ground across sim borders)

The final slot will be fashion TV. Photoshoots with SL's hottest models.
No plot. Some dialog, hot models.

-WW

And where does that say that my opinion and words are golden??

Ahhh.. thats right.. it doesn't... It's what YOU read into that so you could make your lil comment about dick slinging.

But you know, if you go back, you could say the exact same thing about his post should you wish to... But of course Cris, you wouldn't wish to do that now would you? No, of course not

I've put forward what I think is an accurate assumption of what would be required to make this project work - and I think I have some experience in knowing what it would take, and stated what that experience was. Now you can take that or leave that, its entirely up to you...

Siggy.

You are right, hence the reason I said "you two" in the first place.

I have 15-years broadcast television experience, and counting. While I don't wish to stretch my work-day even longer, I would still be interested in playing some role in the development of SLTV. I enjoy the TV business, and it seems that SLTV would be a good medium to float new ideas at a relatively low risk.

We don't need a 1-hour newscast, yet. We could get by with 15-minutes of news, then a 10-minute featured interview/guest (Lindens, well-knowns, random Joes), and finally 5-minutes of commercials mixed throughout. That covers a 30-minute hole, leaving 3.5 hours. There need be no 'fancy wipes and dissolves', no A/B roles, and no fancy pre-pro. We'll pre-record our news stories as raw video, no need to edit it. Then, we'll build a news set which includes a media stream. The news anchor would intro a story, then start the stream.. the camera op zooms into the stream. We could get fancier over time, as we develop more viewers and some sort of income.

After the news, maybe we run a 30-minute game show - yes, Tringo perhaps. It could be a different location each day, and would involve nothing more than a camera person 'working the event' by zooming into boards, getting face-shots, and working the crowd that would follow the camera everywhere it travels. I also believe the 30-minute show would inspire better games, with more interactivety than sitting and doing whatever Tringo people do (I've never played.) Maybe we could even hold vehicle races in the vehicle sims. This would be the game show 30-minutes, leaving 3-hours to fill.

Following the game show, maybe an interactive hour. Maybe we have a panel of Live Helper-types who can take a wide range of questions from users. Despite sounding like a dull idea, I think this could be one of the most productive hours. Of course, we'd have to control the flow of questions to allow the focus to follow each from start to finish. 2-hours down, 2-hours to go.

We'd split hour 3 into two 30-minute shows. The first 30 could be a new product showcase. We'd bring creators into our studio and allow them five minutes to show-off their newest product. We'd pick the products prior to the show in order to keep it from being dominated by one or two folks. More or less, this is the show n' tell half-hour.

I have more ideas than time now... the next 30 could be filled with a "30-minutes in the Life" type show. Or, better yet, I'd like to see it filled with a half-hour PBS-type tutorial. For instance, how to build a custom avatar, or how to texture like a pro. Whenever an outside program is used, screenshots can be setup on a texture changer. The camera would work the changer as needed. That covers 3-hours, 1-hour remains.

The final hour of live programming would be a free-for-all. Chunks of time can be bought by residents in 15-minute chunks. For instance, a PG-based club could broadcast their dance-floor if they like. If a slot isn't bought, the camera-person flies around showing whatever seems interesting at the time.


Now, for the speedbumps along the route.

Who will watch? Well, the audience will consist of two types of viewer, those stuck at work, and those in world. I seriously doubt anyone would watch via the SLTV.com website if they could get into SL themselves. Any potential new SL residents would watch for no more than it takes to d/l the software and enter the world.

Audio... there has to be an easy way to voice-over the video stream. This would require significant hardware to run video publishing software along with SL. I can think of ways to make this work, but not cheaply, and not by a single individual/computer. There should also be a way to take call-ins from SL residents. This is already done by some DJ's, and it works fine... but DJ's don't have the added burden of video.

For times when voice-over isn't possible, we'd need the ability to super-size the chat text. Otherwise, folks wouldn't be able to read what's being said.

There has to be a way to control the griefers. I can think of two client settings that would be needed; a way to block all IM's except those of listed residents, and a way to block all inventory drops. Otherwise, the screen would fill with IMs, textures, and notecards very quickly.

We would need an island sim, so we can control shows such as the newscasts and Live Help feeds.

If anyone has the ability to run an operation such as this, I'd be interested in playing a role. But, there's no way I, or any single individual, could put this on alone... much less, do it as a hobby.

Does anyone want to join me for producing this thing? Any more suggestions for content?

There used to be a couple of late-night TV programs where the cameraperson would just drive or walk around the city. The scene was set to soft jazz music. It was simple, hypnotic and compelling. That was possibly my first Virtual "First Person" experience.

Now that's Good TV.

Reality shows *without* editing will be doable. Like livecasting from teh Bachelor's mansion. But I bet it will bore people to death.

Guys? Little less worry about interperting each others attitudes and a little more thought on the subject at hand:

How the heck to make anything resembling interesting content using video from SL?

Dote-dote's got the idea, and William Withnail is willing, too.

Dote-dote should give it a go! Maybe the two of them could get together.

I would love to watch (or be on) what Dote-Dote is offering.

coco

Honestly, I don't think SL is capable of running such a deal. The deal would cost too much on LL and it will probably be scraped after a few months.

While yes, there is interest, lets get real people, SLTV can take a back seat while we FIX THE DAMN BUGS IN THIS PLACE.