14 Day Suspension for Global Attack???

No moronic bitchy rant for this post, Cienna?

I will give them a chance. But I want to also let them know how displeased we all will be if this is the only action taken. I find it somewhat amazing they would take this action, and report it on the police blotter, before making any announcement about what action they'll be taking in RL against this criminal. A statement is absolutely necessary - there has been no update to the Announcements forum except to say the grid is back up. If they're going to make public the in-world punishment, letting us know the RL course of action (which they must have a plan for, given the previous announcement) would be nice. The FBI also likes to be notified of incidents such as these ASAP so the trail doesn't go cold. I figured they might want to send a message to these "script kiddies" that play time is over. Instead, they've sent the message, so far, that all that will happen if you intentionally crash the grid, costing thousands of dollars and hours or work to citizens, is that you'll have to play as your alt for two weeks.

Regards,

-Flip

I assume she is putting together her resume for us...

I'm waiting in sheer anticipation!

Too bad the Gigas cronies weren't banned at least a few microseconds for the grief they have caused some people in SL.

Ohhhhh was gonna reply but then I realized you said anticipation, not constipation OOOOps hehehe


Love ya Flip

"the sound... of siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii-lence..."

What happened to LEGAL ACTION?????

Ok I was waiting to let somebody else say it but I guess either nobody else knows or they forgot.


After the first grid crash in this recent series, the same thing was posted on the police blotter.


But the real action taken was a permaban.


As far as why it shows up as a 14 day suspension on the blotter initially, ask LL.

no it said perma ban

i made threads that mentioned it

Maybe Mr. Griefer is Anshe's alt.

KIDDING!!!!!

P2

Err... not to douse the conspiracy theorists, but "Global Attack" is a fairly common listing on the Police Blotter. A lot of mundane actions are classified thusly because they transcend multiple sims. Or something like that.


Last time I viewed the Police Blotter (some time ago), there were as many as three listings including similar suspension periods. This was at a time far proceeding the "original" grid attack.

So unless someone comes forward saying "this is the same guy," I'd reneg on pointing fingers here.


Unless tinfoil hats are in style this week. Despite the fact they make things worse.

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That said, for the asshat(s) in question, action must get stricter when they set out to take down Linden and resident assets. Period.

Valid reasons the punishment is only 14 days:

1. Pending final action
2. Accomplice
3. Accident and the person is really, really sorry
4. Feds are already involved and they are setting a trap.

okay, so while 4 would be cool, I somehow doubt it. But, still, it'd be cool.

Regardless, though, I think we need to petition LL that any grid-wide attack should have a high level of transparency for how the situation is handled - including naming names.

That will cost you fifty dollah.

coco

From what I understand, after the 14 days are up, they have a committie meeting and determine if you will be permibanned or not. When I read the blotter and see 14 days, I almost always assume they will get the permiban

Yeal it is.

And like I said in the post above, from what I read, after 14 days they review the situation and that is when they determine if they should permi-ban the griefer.

Correct afaik.

No it said 14 day suspension.

Permaban was later.

But hey, at least you sounded knowledgeable for a few minutes.

This really gave me a laugh. Legal action but no permaban? That does not add up. If that's true then LL is handing their defense attorney the ultimate way out for their client. I find it very unlikely that the person suspended for only 2 weeks would be the very same person against whom legal action is taken. Maybe there is more than one person involved.

Delurking to say that I am very disappointed that Linden Lab is not more active and more vocal about being active on a matter such as this. I think it is important that companies assure their customers that things like this are acted upon with vigor. Failing to demonstrate this often undermines belief and trust in the company's willingness to defend all of its customers in instances such as this.

For that matter, I have a good friend here who cannot stay out of trouble on these forums. I think he is now suspended for 14 days. Is Linden Lab trying to say that the massive attack of the other day is only as bad as being ugly on the forums? What kind of message does THAT convey?

p.s.: The people hounding Samiam ought to be ashamed of themselves. They are just as bad, if not worse, because they all seem to claim they are somehow above the behavior she enjoys, even as they pursue the same behavior to get after her.

In my fair state, driving 70mph in a 55mph zone gets you 3 demerits on your driver's license, vehicular homicide is worth 4. Not that I'm equating grid hijinx with RL death, but who said justice was supposed to be just?

At this rate, I can unintentionally kill three people or get four speeding tickets before I have to take a "driving responsibly" course some afternoon. Decisions, decisions.

This seems like an important point to me.

To clarify, the Police Blotter reports a 14-day suspension as part of our disciplinary process, it does not currently report bannings, that is something we plan to add in the future, along with the results of the Resident Review panel that is automatically triggered when someone recieves a 14 days suspension.

Further, while some Residents who recieve a 14-day suspension do survive the automatic review for ban that accompanies it, those who commit grid-wide (global) attacks do not. Again, to be absoulately clear, those who commit global attacks do NOT get this same process, there is no Review panel, and they are normally automatically banned, per our Community Standards/TOS. Also, as posted here, our legal team is also investigating other methods of enforcement.

Thanks for the update. What level of announcement can we expect to hear on what legal actions / notifications have happened? If you're going to file criminal charges, or seek civil damages, either way it becomes a matter of public record, and I'd hope you'd make a public announcement. Any chance you can do some research into that, and what time frame we might be able to hear something in? We're getting restless here, and I think its understandable, since this is the third attack in what, six weeks?

In my opinion, the longer Linden Lab waits in making a public announcement about taking clear, decisive action against an individual because of a specific attack, instead of a general policy statement, the more often these attacks will happen. Also, your citizens who rely on the grid for business are going to become more angry as these continue to happen.

Right now, LL comes off as giving these people a mere slap on the wrist for costing businesses in SL hundreds of hours, and thousands of US dollars... so of course they're going to keep doing it! They're script kiddies, its what they do. Until LL does more than force these idiots to get an alt account, nothing is being done, as Plastic Duck proved yesterday by creating YET ANOTHER alt account - he claims "about the 15th time since his banning he's been back" - and posting to a thread I created in the forums. I find the public response thus far from LL far below par and unacceptable to these criminal actions, and make no mistake, they are criminal actions.

Can you see why some of us are a bit miffed about this? Call the FBI, make an announcement that "John Doe from Anywhere, CA in the USA" has been turned over to the FBI, the FBI will call their parents, and word will get out! Then give updates as it progresses publically, providing impetus for these idiots to stop their asstastic behavior. Thanks for anything you can find out, as always.

Regards,

-Flip