Taking the fun out of designing

I am the first one to admit that I am a buildoholic, but when I find prices for clothing super low, it takes the fun out of designing. I applaud those of you who are keeping your prices fair. I refuse to create an item that has to be sold outlandishly cheap. Ok, sure, maybe it would be a couple of dollars in US currency (and sometimes less) but every little thing adds up. I check the forums on an obsessively regular basis on new releases and I jaunt all around SL to see all these new items. But I will leave my store in disgust and not put out my new creations when I find the unfair prices. Again, thank you those of you shoppers who are paying fair prices. I hope you appreciate my creative efforts as much as I appreciate your business . Uggg at the rest of the designers selling at unfair prices. LOL Ok I had my moan, hopefully these designers will hear my cries and raise their prices to be designer friendly.

*gazes into crystal ball*

I see... I see... I see a number of bandwagon threads on the forums...





That'll be L$500.

hehe you're funny! lmaooo no seriously! hahaha

*gets some popcorn and a lawn chair*

I am selling my stuff at fair prices. Fair for those newer poorer folks who have to run around in a chalky skin like I did for a long time. If people don't like me undercuting them on my more basic stuf then I guess thier real issue is they think we should all be too greedy to want ppl to have fun and enjoy our creations. Raise prices? HE** no. NOT happenning. When we can't afford a shop anymore due to jacked up rent then I guess I'll just have to figure out a new way to handle it. Maybe a community site where I let content creators post links to thier SLX or SLB pages. Keep your bandwagon. Mine's quite comfortable and I will keep riding on it TYVM.

I'm with Dimitri. I am not interested at all in cashing out on my creations, instead earning just enough to cover rent and upload costs. To me, the real payment is just having something out there of my own, something that I can say "I made this, and people are wearing it!" Plus, most of the "Money" I make is in clothing commissions.

That's fascinating.

To me, the real payment is

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

I sell one for L$25 if you need a chair... there's plenty of free popcorn dispensers around though.

Lewis

Ummm ...

You need to price your items at what you think they are worth, and what the market will bear. No one is forcing you to sell your items cheaply. If no one buys the items at the price you set, then ultimately the market decided what they are worth - and if they sell at that price, then more power to you. Instead of complaining about how others price their items, worry about creating items that are worth the prices you want to charge. Problem solved.

'Fair' in in the eye of the beholder. I find the lower prices to be 'fair.' Hopefully you will lower your prices to be consumer friendly.

A dress is only worth as many lindens as a SHOPPER feels its worth. no matter what price you set.

Clearly a dig in THIS post.

Build for the love of building and sell for what you want to sell it for and you'll be alot happier.

-Ghoti

You see lower prices not as fair, but only as what you want, something for nothing or next to nothing. I see through you! Individual shoper choose to buy or not, whole market full of shoppers set price!

Exactly. But its the shoppers who set the ultimate value. As for something for nothing, I've paid more than 2k for several items in game..hardly nothing.

I have paid significantly more. I am consumer only, I pay becasue I smart consumer, not dumb one. I pay for quality items, good toy to play with. I am amazed at how little is charged for such time and skill, pennies often, most expensive item I buy one two U.S. dollar and some pennies. Incredible deals! So I encourage that, buy from them make them make more things for me to play with becasue they are rewarded.

Not blindly make-belive my singular view on value hold more sway than it does.

By the OP's logic, people who give stuff away for free must be absolutely EVIL!

You seem to blindly think your make believe views form my opinion.

Eh sometimes the bar needs to be raised - and making a superior product for less - or even for free will do that.

Most of my products are fairly cheap (for what they are) because it gives customers good value for money - helping return sales, and makes it a bit harder for folks to jump on a 'bandwagon'.

Ultimately I set my prices based on what I think is affordable to Joe Average and how much work I put it - and how much I'm likely to get back out of it.

I'm sure everyone has different figures they can pull out of that equation.

I can not begin to guess what form your opinion, save that I am sure it is not facts.

value of thing in RL = cost of material + your time + overhead + profit.

Value of thing in SL = virtual material (0) + your free time (most of us have RL jobs) (0) + overhead (tier cost, classified...) + profit.

real value of virtual thing = 0

suggestive value of virtual thing = depends on how bad you want your AV to look good in the eyes of others...

umpfff....

Its facts. Keep up the make believe if you want though, you've proven yourself to be easily ignored.

yes, setting you on ignore seems good suggestion. Only one I've seen so far from you.

What is cheap and what is dear? I live in a vacuum and I just price my things by pulling numbers out of... A HAT, yeah, a hat. I did raise my prices once, a year ago, because someone said, "Raise your prices." It seems like an individual thing since everything is different in quality, style, etc., etc. and the creator's desires and intentions are different, too. Probably 1L is too low, and 1,000,000L is too high - but in the middle how would one decide?

I had 1337 postcount, as Sarg pointed out, so now I have to wave bye-bye to being 1337 and be merely... 1338.

i may have to start making stuff just so i can price it as low as i possibly can >8D

Being undercut is a concern. It's especially likely to happen in SL because, as new creator-hopefuls arrive, their first concern is likely to be to get noticed and the easiest way of doing that is by selling things cheap since they have low start-up costs and no production costs. (Of course, this also might change when the other new arrivals are having to buy their L$, since people spending US$ are liable to spend enough to buy a couple of thousand L$ at once.)

One product I now sell, I investigated the market and found that I would be undercutting someone, but when I checked around, their product and mine seemed to be different enough that it wouldn't be a problem so I went ahead anyway. Somebody then undercut me to L$0 via the Scripting Library (one of the hazards that builders etc. don't have to put up with so much, grumble grumble) but fortunately, my version was friendlier for non-scripters to work with so it wasn't affected. And that's the point I think - if you do get undercut, you can always emphasise the quality of the product