I have been Banned! Anyone know why?
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Hox Hauptmann
I Support Supportiveness!
Join date: 28 Oct 2005
Posts: 104
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08-24-2006 13:56
I have tried to login for the past couple of weeks to no avail. I've tried e-mailing several Lindens and they are not replying. Under my account info it says:
Closed by Linden Lab
If I did anything wrong in SL recently and/or in the past I would be more then happy to right the wrongs monetarily, physically or emotionally.
If anything, I would at least like to log in to say goodbye/thanx and pay L$ to people for helping me with the game I created "Boogie".
Anyhoo, if for some reason there is no hope for me returning to the world of SL, I would like to say thank-you to all of those people that have been so great to me.
I am really glad that I was able to meet such fantastic people and be part of so many cool projects during my time in SL.
Remorsefully yours,
Hox
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Lewis Nerd
Nerd by name and nature!
Join date: 9 Oct 2005
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08-24-2006 14:11
Have you tried telephoning them?
Sorry I can't be any more help. I like your game though.
Lewis
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Hox Hauptmann
I Support Supportiveness!
Join date: 28 Oct 2005
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08-24-2006 14:15
I'm calling them now. 
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Pol Tabla
synthpop saint
Join date: 18 Dec 2003
Posts: 1,041
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08-24-2006 14:17
I think they're really clamping down on alliterative names.
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Hox Hauptmann
I Support Supportiveness!
Join date: 28 Oct 2005
Posts: 104
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08-24-2006 14:35
Yeah. Hmm.. I'm supposed to send an e-mail to [email]abuse-manager@secondlife.com[/email]. I'm told he is super busy right now and it takes him a while to get back to people. Hopefully he gets back to me before the account is deleted permanently on Septembe 15, 2006. Looks like it was an alternate account situation. I am assuming that it has to do with an account I had over a year ago where I created a LSL listening script that LL didn't like too much (I was able to listen on channels that some casino games were using). I used the script a couple times before closing my account - kinda like a going out with a bang thing (I was leaving anyway because my g/f was ticked that I was online so often lol). I never intended to hurt anyone or cause any lasting trouble. Over a year later (after a break with the g/f  ) I decided to give SL another try. Like I mentioned, I hope they give me the opportunity to right the wrong. I never got an e-mail or anything from them before either so I assumed no one was bothered too greatly.
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Margaret Mfume
I.C.
Join date: 30 Dec 2004
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08-24-2006 15:34
From: Hox Hauptmann I am assuming that it has to do with an account I had over a year ago where I created a LSL listening script that LL didn't like too much (I was able to listen on channels that some casino games were using). I used the script a couple times before closing my account - kinda like a going out with a bang thing (I was leaving anyway because my g/f was ticked that I was online so often lol). I never intended to hurt anyone or cause any lasting trouble. I'm kind of curious; what do you mean by "used the script a couple times". What kind of bang did you create?
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Schwanson Schlegel
SL's Tokin' Villain
Join date: 15 Nov 2003
Posts: 2,721
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08-24-2006 17:20
From: Hox Hauptmann Yeah. Hmm.. I'm supposed to send an e-mail to [email=abuse-manager@secondlife.com]abuse-manager@secondlife.com[/email]. I'm told he is super busy right now and it takes him a while to get back to people. Hopefully he gets back to me before the account is deleted permanently on Septembe 15, 2006. Looks like it was an alternate account situation. I am assuming that it has to do with an account I had over a year ago where I created a LSL listening script that LL didn't like too much (I was able to listen on channels that some casino games were using). I used the script a couple times before closing my account - kinda like a going out with a bang thing (I was leaving anyway because my g/f was ticked that I was online so often lol). I never intended to hurt anyone or cause any lasting trouble. Over a year later (after a break with the g/f  ) I decided to give SL another try. Like I mentioned, I hope they give me the opportunity to right the wrong. I never got an e-mail or anything from them before either so I assumed no one was bothered too greatly. So you stole money from people and assumed nobody was bothered?
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grumble Loudon
A Little bit a lion
Join date: 30 Nov 2005
Posts: 612
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08-24-2006 17:25
Using a listening script by itself will not get you banned. It is how you use it and what you do with the information that can get you in to trouble.
I use a remote listening device to improve frame rates at crowded auctions. It is shaped like an ear and the float text clearly says it's a listening device and displays my name.
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jrrdraco Oe
Insanity Fair
Join date: 28 Oct 2005
Posts: 372
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08-24-2006 17:41
I know of someone that got temporary banned for saying there was a bug in the system at the forums.
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Margaret Mfume
I.C.
Join date: 30 Dec 2004
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08-24-2006 18:15
From: Schwanson Schlegel So you stole money from people and assumed nobody was bothered? He didn't mean to and it was soooo long ago.  From: Hox Hauptmann I never intended to hurt anyone or cause any lasting trouble. Over a year later (after a break with the g/f  ) I decided to give SL another try.
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nimrod Yaffle
Cavemen are people too...
Join date: 15 Nov 2004
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08-24-2006 18:20
From: Margaret Mfume He didn't mean to and it was soooo long ago.  I didn't mean to steal those items from JEVN either, can I have my rap sheet wiped please? 
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Sensual Casanova
Spoiled Brat
Join date: 28 Feb 2004
Posts: 4,807
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08-24-2006 19:03
I didn't mean to show the nude pics on Snapzilla that were sent in from the teen grid, may I have my rap sheet wiped pls?
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Cristiano Midnight
Evil Snapshot Baron
Join date: 17 May 2003
Posts: 8,616
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08-24-2006 19:15
From: Sensual Casanova I didn't mean to show the nude pics on Snapzilla that were sent in from the teen grid, may I have my rap sheet wiped pls? Yeah you accidentally embedded the picture into your post 
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Sensual Casanova
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Join date: 28 Feb 2004
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08-24-2006 19:16
From: Cristiano Midnight Yeah you accidentally embedded the picture into your post  I didnt think I would get supsended for it, geesh =/
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Cristiano Midnight
Evil Snapshot Baron
Join date: 17 May 2003
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08-24-2006 19:16
In Hox's defense, he is an amazing game designer - I have never enjoyed playing any SL game as much as Boogie. I hope he gets things resolved - and it is outrageous not to be able to easily find out why your account is closed.
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Cristiano Midnight
Evil Snapshot Baron
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08-24-2006 19:16
From: Sensual Casanova I didnt think I would get supsended for it, geesh =/ Yeah, I know, it sucked, I was just teasing. You did not deserve it - you were just pointing out the fact that LL was not following their own policies.
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Sensual Casanova
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08-24-2006 19:17
From: Cristiano Midnight In Hox's defense, he is an amazing game designer - I have never enjoyed playing any SL game as much as Boogie. I hope he gets things resolved - and it is outrageous not to be able to easily find out why your account is closed. He knows why... he used a script to hack into casino games and wipe the owners bank account clean.... he was just going out with a bang... geesh! 
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Cristiano Midnight
Evil Snapshot Baron
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08-24-2006 19:18
From: Sensual Casanova He knows why... he used a script to hack into casino games and wipe the owners bank account clean.... he was just going out with a bang... geesh!  That is why his account is closed now? After over a year?
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Sensual Casanova
Spoiled Brat
Join date: 28 Feb 2004
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08-24-2006 19:21
From: Cristiano Midnight That is why his account is closed now? After over a year? They link alts now via IP or hardware... whatever it is... they use to do it by credit card and people got away with it... so if an alt was banned, the main would get banned on his next billing cycle, thats what happen to some chic (forgot her name) was banned cus her brother was banned 2 yrs ago *shrugs*
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Joannah Cramer
Registered User
Join date: 12 Apr 2006
Posts: 1,539
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08-24-2006 19:23
From: Cristiano Midnight That is why his account is closed now? After over a year? "I am assuming that it has to do with an account I had over a year ago (..)" The new account was created year later (i.e. now) ... connection to old one was discovered and the new account got axed by LL just like the old one.
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nimrod Yaffle
Cavemen are people too...
Join date: 15 Nov 2004
Posts: 3,146
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08-24-2006 19:26
From: Sensual Casanova He knows why... he used a script to hack into casino games and wipe the owners bank account clean.... he was just going out with a bang... geesh!  That can't be the reason though. Someone did this on one of my games and I had about 20k. I lost it all, and filied an abuse report, and contacted an in-world Liaison. I gave them extra info, such as transaction logs and the person admitting they did it on purpose in an IM. I never recieved my money back, and the person is still in-world.
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nimrod Yaffle
Cavemen are people too...
Join date: 15 Nov 2004
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08-24-2006 19:27
From: Sensual Casanova They link alts now via IP or hardware... whatever it is... they use to do it by credit card and people got away with it... so if an alt was banned, the main would get banned on his next billing cycle, thats what happen to some chic (forgot her name) was banned cus her brother was banned 2 yrs ago *shrugs* The hair woman, but people rallied together and got her back. I guess if people are on your side, you can control LLs actions.
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Sensual Casanova
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08-24-2006 19:27
From: nimrod Yaffle That can't be the reason though. Someone did this on one of my games and I had about 20k. I lost it all, and filied an abuse report, and contacted an in-world Liaison. I gave them extra info, such as transaction logs and the person admitting they did it on purpose in an IM. I never recieved my money back, and the person is still in-world. well it is different when it happens to the masses rather than one incident.. I dunno why it is so, but it is...
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Xaria Concord
Funky Stuffs Designer
Join date: 30 Jun 2005
Posts: 104
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08-24-2006 23:43
*sigh* Too bad for us Boogie owners 
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Lewis Nerd
Nerd by name and nature!
Join date: 9 Oct 2005
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08-25-2006 00:06
From: Cristiano Midnight I hope he gets things resolved - and it is outrageous not to be able to easily find out why your account is closed. Linden Lab are quite quick to dish out these things but to try and even find out what you did, let alone resolve it, is an endless nightmare of ignored emails. The email you're asked to contact is never replied to, and despite asking three senior (and directly responsible) Lindens directly in-world to explain and provide proof of their accusations, I was even told by one of them that they didn't have the evidence any more. It is incidents like this - where slaps and warnings are given out with no reason, no explanation, and no recourse when challenged, that cause me to lose faith in Linden Lab's ability to successfully manage their world. After all, if they can't provide proof, how can they be expected to be taken seriously? Whether they like it or not, they are 'the Police' in SL, and have an obligation to keep records of disciplinary action properly. If a black mark is on my record, I expect to be able to have access to read that information at a convenient time - if they can lose the evidence, why can't they lose the black mark? Lewis
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