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Cocoanut Koala
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11-17-2005 12:03
"Delusions." Et cetera.

And you think the forums are just fine now.

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Weedy Herbst
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11-17-2005 12:05
From: Cocoanut Koala
"Delusions." Et cetera.

And you think the forums are just fine now.

coco


What's your point?

Don't do my thinking for me, please.
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Belaya Statosky
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11-17-2005 12:05
From: Weedy Herbst
Way back when, while Prok was harrassing a neighbor about "King Kong", she created this group in her mind and erroneously mis-spelled "fetid" which became the term coined for her delusions and was perpetuated to ridicule her.


Not to be constantly correcting of you today:

Feted -
1. To celebrate or honor with a festival, a feast, or an elaborate entertainment.
2. To pay honor to.

Fetid -
1. Having an offensive odor.

It was correct for him to use 'Feted Inner Core' as that means 'Honored/Celebrated Collection of People', which was his issue. 'Fetid' works as well, but it's a different sentiment. The 'Fetid' correction people presented later was in fact, an error.
Weedy Herbst
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11-17-2005 12:07
From: Belaya Statosky
Not to be constantly correcting of you today:

Feted -
1. To celebrate or honor with a festival, a feast, or an elaborate entertainment.
2. To pay honor to.

Fetid -
1. Having an offensive odor.

It was correct for him to use 'Feted Inner Core' as that means 'Honored/Celebrated Collection of People', which was his issue. 'Fetid' works as well, but it's a different sentiment. The 'Fetid' correction people presented later was in fact, an error.


Prok intended it to be "fetid". Feted happened to be a typo.
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Belaya Statosky
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11-17-2005 12:09
From: Weedy Herbst
Prok intended it to be "fetid". Feted happened to be a typo.


Your word vs. Prok's word vs. my word vs...
Weedy Herbst
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11-17-2005 12:28
From: Belaya Statosky
Your word vs. Prok's word vs. my word vs...


/120/d9/31559/1.html

Here is the thread which brought the term to life.
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Belaya Statosky
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11-17-2005 13:13
From: Weedy Herbst
/120/d9/31559/1.html

Here is the thread which brought the term to life.


Heh, I saw that thread the day it surfaced. Maybe you should try reading it.

Prok says 'Feted', Ingrid says 'Fetid', Prok says it in double-quotes as "Fetid Inner Core" back at her, Beryl corrects Ingrid ('there's a difference between fetid and feted'), Prok later spells it 'Feted'. Your insistence of it being a typo hasn't been confirmed by that thread.

As much as I dislike Prok and openly mock them elsewhere, I'm not gonna try to score extra points off of them that aren't valid. Just a PROTIP.
Enabran Templar
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11-17-2005 13:14
From: Weedy Herbst
/120/d9/31559/1.html

Here is the thread which brought the term to life.


Haha, that thread was awesome. I love how Prokofy sent an alt to say

"*hugs Prokofy*"

Priceless.
Cienna Samiam
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11-17-2005 13:31
From: Weedy Herbst
Prok intended it to be "fetid". Feted happened to be a typo.

*edited*
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Felicity Sneerwell
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11-17-2005 13:52
From: Yumi Murakami

As an example, Aimee got on the forum banner because she worked hard and became successful, but any newcomer who (for whatever reason - hey, celebrity's nice, right?) wanted to get that probably would never be able to because a) they'd probably never beat Aimee, and b) even if they did, it wouldn't be in LL's marketing interest to change their branding.


Here is my two cents about branding since I have been in marketing for almost 10 years. The main reason that companies either take forever to change their branding or keep it the same for what seems like an eternity is because branding is just that, branding. As a company, when you are trying to make a name for yourself, it is far better to keep the logo and branding the same for a while. It gives consumers a sense of familiarity and stability in that company when they continually see it over and over again. I am not arguing that it is bad business to change branding. In fact it is a good thing to do on ocassion. But that said I can completely understand why LL hasn't changed it. If they changed it on a daily, weekly or monthly basis you would be asking yourselves "why do they keep changing it?" or "what is going on?".
Pendari Lorentz
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11-17-2005 13:54
From: Cocoanut Koala
A pool of known-quantity players the Lindens dipped into whever they wanted to pass out opportunities.


Which never existed.

From: Cocoanut Koala
The Lindens have better methods now, so it's not so much an issue.


They use the same methods now they always did. It is just now spelled out more clearly for those who had trouble understanding before.

Just clearing that up in case any new person mistook your opinion for fact. :)
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Vivianne Draper
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11-17-2005 13:58
y'know guys and gals... in every type of game i've ever played -- whether it be tabletop, larp or online -- there's always a group that's considered the inner circle of power and favored over others. sometimes its cause they were there earlier, sometimes its cause they are boinkin the gm, sometimes its cause they contribute significantly, and sometimes they are just lucky. whichever it may be -- get over it. i don't see how someone getting their pic on a banner affects my gameplay in the slightest... please don't argue bout this. i just wanted to know what it meant. i think i have a good idea now and its just the same ole same ole. rather a shame actually.

can't we all just get along?
Cocoanut Koala
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11-17-2005 15:13
From: Felicity Sneerwell
Here is my two cents about branding since I have been in marketing for almost 10 years. The main reason that companies either take forever to change their branding or keep it the same for what seems like an eternity is because branding is just that, branding. As a company, when you are trying to make a name for yourself, it is far better to keep the logo and branding the same for a while. It gives consumers a sense of familiarity and stability in that company when they continually see it over and over again. I am not arguing that it is bad business to change branding. In fact it is a good thing to do on ocassion. But that said I can completely understand why LL hasn't changed it. If they changed it on a daily, weekly or monthly basis you would be asking yourselves "why do they keep changing it?" or "what is going on?".

Pictures of residents are not logos, or brands. They are just residents.

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Baccara Rhodes
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Charm?
11-17-2005 15:14
From: blaze Spinnaker
FIC = people who think sucking up is the way to get ahead in life.


I am certainly hoping that your consistent lack of charm is far exceeded by good looks...

With love, Baccara
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Cocoanut Koala
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11-17-2005 15:23
From: Pendari Lorentz
Which never existed.



They use the same methods now they always did. It is just now spelled out more clearly for those who had trouble understanding before.

Just clearing that up in case any new person mistook your opinion for fact. :)

OK, Pendari, I'll take you up on this - for the sake of the new people you are misleading with it who may be following along on this thread.

As if I didn't already say it in the other thread.

Previously, there was no Developer Directory. Now there is. If there's no Developer Directory, we can't possibly submit ourselves or our groups for consideration for outside contracts, and/or whatever else that directory is for. Now we can.

Previously there was no PR Suggestion Box. Now there is. Previously, if someone wanted to be considered for interview by a media person, or for any other PR purpose - or to suggest that others builds or stories might be worth attention for promoting SL, there was no official conduit for it. Now there is.

Those changes are matters of F A C T. Not opinions.

Now we also have more calls for content being posted in the Announcements forum. Previously, we didn't.

The Lindens have been sensitive to the issues of providing equal opportunity for all their residents, and they have taken these steps, and more, to ensure that. They are sensitive to accusations of favoritism, and, I believe, don't really want to play favorites. As the world grows, it is more difficult to utilize your resident talent base without the appropriate structures for doing so.

These structures and changes may seem no different to you from the way things were before, from the standpoint of someone who has been here since September of 2003. But to a player now swimming in a sea of 80k other players, they are very valuable indeed. Whenever opportunities are publicized, more people have a chance at that opportunity, and the Lindens get a much greater variety of things to choose from, and also get more new ideas.

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Cristiano Midnight
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11-17-2005 16:30
From: Vivianne Draper
y'know guys and gals... in every type of game i've ever played -- whether it be tabletop, larp or online -- there's always a group that's considered the inner circle of power and favored over others. sometimes its cause they were there earlier, sometimes its cause they are boinkin the gm, sometimes its cause they contribute significantly, and sometimes they are just lucky. whichever it may be -- get over it. i don't see how someone getting their pic on a banner affects my gameplay in the slightest... please don't argue bout this. i just wanted to know what it meant. i think i have a good idea now and its just the same ole same ole. rather a shame actually.

can't we all just get along?


You have received honorary entry into the FIC just by using the phrase "boinkin the GM'. Welcome :)
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Katt Kongo
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11-17-2005 16:38
From: Enabran Templar
So the F-I-C won't let me be
Or let me be me so let me see
They tried to ditch me out at SLCC
But it feels so empty without me


/me applauds.
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Pendari Lorentz
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11-17-2005 17:01
From: Cocoanut Koala
OK, Pendari, I'll take you up on this - for the sake of the new people you are misleading with it who may be following along on this thread.


Sorry Coco. I mislead no one. I stated in my post that these opportunities *always* existed. Anyone could take advantage of them. Some people who could not realize this, made the lindens spell it out. Some just need more verbage as they cannot concieve of a "game" company really listening to them.

So you are wrong. As I stated. The opportunities always were there. The way to get them has not changed. There just happens to be a new way to find them for those who are too scared to IM a linden directly. :)
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Cocoanut Koala
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11-17-2005 17:24
Well you know what, Pendari? I'm not going to KNOW to IM a Linden directly about an opportunity if I don't even know that opportunity EXISTS.

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Enabran Templar
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11-17-2005 17:47
From: Cocoanut Koala
Pictures of residents are not logos, or brands. They are just residents.


Mmm. Maybe you should stick to writing for ladies magazines and leave the marketing people to talk about things they know about.
Cocoanut Koala
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11-17-2005 17:57
Maybe you should stick to . . . whatever it is in the entertainment industry you do instead of constantly passing out advice to everyone else.

Either that, or stand behind what you say.

In this case, that would mean explaining exactly how it is that you consider an individual resident to be the same thing as an SL brand or logo.

Care to explain?

And you know what, Enabran - I'm sick of you dredging up everything I'm interested in and presenting it for hopeful mass denigration. I dare you to ever be where I am in my career in your own. AND I dare you to scrapbook even a tenth as well!

coco

P.S. My portfolio is not limited to women's magazines. (What was that, a lucky guess? Or do you scrape around for gossip more than I realized?) It also includes, for example, Reader's Digest.

P.S. While I'm at it, why don't you learn to be nicer? If I can give you sincere compliments on what you have done with your life, why is it you have to make fun of my life all the time? Not that that is even POSSIBLE really. The wonderful career I envisioned for you is actually gonna turn out to suck dramatically if you don't learn a little consideration for other people. One of these days you're gonna crap on somebody you wish you hadn't.
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11-17-2005 18:00
From: Enabran Templar
Mmm. Maybe you should stick to writing for ladies magazines and leave the marketing people to talk about things they know about.


that was a fucking cheap shot.
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Cocoanut Koala
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11-17-2005 18:02
From: Martin Magpie
that was a fucking cheap shot.

Not only cheap, it was stupid. Plain stupid. He really needs to grow up and out of it.

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11-17-2005 18:04
nods most certainly.

:mad:
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Enabran Templar
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11-17-2005 18:17
From: Cocoanut Koala
In this case, that would mean explaining exactly how it is that you consider an individual resident to be the same thing as an SL brand or logo.


Branding isn't confined to logos, text, or names. In this case, part of the SL website branding is that particular assortment of unique avatars -- including Aimee. I've seen that for... a very long time. It's one of the many non-textual symbols that tells me I'm on the SL website, at a glance, in a heartbeat. Which makes it a pretty effective website brand.

Don't like my tone? Don't tell a broad with ten years in marketing that she doesn't know what she's talking about (especially when she's absolutely right in her explanation). You can whine as much as you want about your unfounded demands for a perfect and fair cocoanut world, but don't use an ignorant foot-stamping against someone who made an especially astute observation (one I wish I'd made, in fact).
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