that was a fucking cheap shot.
Whyzzat, Martin? Nothing wrong with writing for ladies magazines, right?

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Enabran Templar
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11-17-2005 18:19
that was a fucking cheap shot. Whyzzat, Martin? Nothing wrong with writing for ladies magazines, right? ![]() |
Pendari Lorentz
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11-17-2005 18:23
Well you know what, Pendari? I'm not going to KNOW to IM a Linden directly about an opportunity if I don't even know that opportunity EXISTS. You could have asked? Or been told you could. Oh wait! You were. I'm sorry you decided not to listen. And to go off half cocked. You are why you look a fool. I am not the one that drew you that way. ![]() _____________________
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Cocoanut Koala
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11-17-2005 18:37
Branding isn't confined to logos, text, or names. In this case, part of the SL website branding is that particular assortment of unique avatars -- including Aimee. I've seen that for... a very long time. It's one of the many non-textual symbols that tells me I'm on the SL website, at a glance, in a heartbeat. Which makes it a pretty effective website brand. Don't like my tone? Don't tell a broad with ten years in marketing that she doesn't know what she's talking about (especially when she's absolutely right in her explanation). You can whine as much as you want about your unfounded demands for a perfect and fair cocoanut world, but don't use an ignorant foot-stamping against someone who made an especially astute observation (one I wish I'd made, in fact). I don't care if God HIMSELF comes down and tells us we can't change the avatars on the web site because they are now equilavent to a brand! This is just a no-go proposition. Don't tell me about unfounded demands for a "perfect and fair Cocoanut world." I could suggest you be able to log IN and you would characterize it that way. Rotating the pictures of residents on the website is a reasonable thing to do. coco _____________________
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Cocoanut Koala
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11-17-2005 18:39
You could have asked? Or been told you could. Oh wait! You were. I'm sorry you decided not to listen. And to go off half cocked. You are why you look a fool. I am not the one that drew you that way. ![]() Asked what? Told what? I decided not to listen to WHAT? Or did you just want the opportunity to call me a fool? Now that makes you look really superior, doesn't it. This is becoming one of the most inane threads I've ever been in. coco _____________________
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Tateru Nino
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11-17-2005 18:41
The problem with FIC is that none of us mean the same thing when we say it. For some definitions that have been mentioned on this thread, then yes, the FIC do exist. Each definition demarks various (possibly non-overlapping) sets of residents.
Prok describes a particular set of attributes (at length. At considerable length) that he believes defines the FIC. I don't believe that set contains any members. Some people define the FIC as those people who meet LL's criteria for "rewarding those who contribute most to SL". As I understand it, many such reward systems have been in place. Ratings, dwell payments, that sort of thing. It would be entirely remiss from some viewpoints to not grant special benefits to some residents who were doing great things for SL, that specifically enabled them to expand what they do, in the same nature as governments provide special grants for education and the arts. Some people define the FIC as the people whom the Lindens pay particular attention to. To whose opinions they listen, and consider carefully. I'd have to count Prok as part of this FIC set. I don't agree with a lot of what Prok says, and think some of it is just dead wrong. But that doesn't matter. Prok can be just as right or wrong as any of us, regardless of identity. The identity of the speaker has no bearing on the value of what is spoken, and Prok is - if nothing else - erudite and thoughtful. Note that at no point do I suggest that the Lindens act on the opinions of this set. Only that they listen. Some people define the FIC as the economic powerhouses of SL. That their wishes are more likely to be met, because of their economic input into the ongoing survival of LL and SL. Maybe so. I've got no idea what percentage of revenue comes from the these people as opposed to the combination of the rest of the residents. I know that investors and boards will sometimes bend backwards for those sorts of customers, since they don't need any others. I doubt LL is in that position. Much interdependency. The economic powerhouses rely on the mass of residence to do what they do. There's no profit in neglecting the base population in favour of the powerhouses. Magic 8-ball says, not very likely. Some people just use the label FIC to indicate everyone they think is an arrogant oldbie. Some folks label everyone they think is arrogant. Or just anyone that disagrees. Large set that exists. Varies by speaker. Then there's the doers and creators. The people who make content, teach classes, act as volunteers, form RPG groups, and create activities. A large group in absolute numbers, though perhaps not in percentage terms. Certainly F, just not very IC ![]() Lastly there's a category which places pretty much everyone in the FIC except the people who complain about the FIC. Set including virtually all of SL residents. Largely humorous. And probably I've missed your favourite definition of FIC. Feel free to disagree with what I've posted, too. I've no monopoly on being right, nor burning need for people to agree with what I say. Just venturing an opinion. |
Enabran Templar
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11-17-2005 18:41
Rotating the pictures of residents on the website is a reasonable thing to do. Reasonable if your intent is to show pictures of residents. If your intent is to brand, then changing it is a bad idea. I always enjoy, though, the inevitable shift your argument takes from "It's not this!" to "I don't want it to be this, so it had damn well better not be this!" |
Cocoanut Koala
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11-17-2005 19:02
Well, it isn't that. That is not their intent.
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11-17-2005 19:03
Like the cleaning of a house ... It Never Ends.
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Enabran Templar
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11-17-2005 19:07
Well, it isn't that. That is not their intent. Oh yeah? Come on, toots, let's hear what their intent was. |
Cristiano Midnight
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11-17-2005 19:18
Well, it isn't that. That is not their intent. coco Ok I have to ask on this one too. How pray tell do you know what Linden Lab's intent is ON THEIR MARKETING WEB SITE? Do you work in their marketing department? The main SL web site is to attract new business. How do you know why they chose the images they chose? You don't, you just speculate. My God, can Linden Lab run any aspect of their business without people thinking they somehow have a hand in dictating how it should be run? I forgot about the clause in the TOS that said "You are guaranteed to be on our marketing web site, and we will run all decisions by everyone. kthnxbye" _____________________
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Lianne Marten
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11-17-2005 19:41
闭嘴,您很不体贴的男生!
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Cristiano Midnight
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11-17-2005 19:48
闭嘴,您很不体贴的男生! ![]() _____________________
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Lianne Marten
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11-17-2005 19:51
我寫在漢語, 不日語
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Enabran Templar
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11-17-2005 19:58
Ok I have to ask on this one too. How pray tell do you know what Linden Lab's intent is ON THEIR MARKETING WEB SITE? Do you work in their marketing department? The main SL web site is to attract new business. How do you know why they chose the images they chose? You don't, you just speculate. Hey now, Cristiano. Hey now. Let's not be impatient. I'm sure the whole arena of internet branding is very foreign to someone who is scrapbook correspondent to AARP The Magazine. (What was that, a lucky guess? Or do you scrape around for gossip more than I realized?) It also includes, for example, Reader's Digest. Lucky guess? It's an obvious guess. I'm pretty sure I've never read you in WSJ, BusinessWeek or the Economist. (Just a hunch based on your discussions of fiscal matters) Maaaaybe you might have slipped into one of my issues of National Review, if you could tie that smashing scrapbooking into something neatly conservative and patriotic. |
Cocoanut Koala
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11-17-2005 20:06
Hey now, Cristiano. Hey now. Let's not be impatient. I'm sure the whole arena of internet branding is very foreign to someone who is scrapbook correspondent to AARP The Magazine. You know, that's just so crummy, Enabran. You couldn't be much crummier, you know that? Plus it's also untrue. I really don't know why you are so intent on running of fa good player like me. As for the website AV screenshots, I know that wasn't their intent because when we were discussing this in another forum some months ago, someone dug up where they had asked for new pictures for it, sometime before my time, probably last fall; I'm not sure. And they have spoken of wanting to rotate the profiles they feature, as well. That anyone would persist in maintaining that the screenshots on the website should be static forevermore, because "you know when you see Aimee, that you are on the SL website," is just ludicrous. I can only assume y'all are just pulling my leg. coco _____________________
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Tateru Nino
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11-17-2005 20:09
What about some sort of Enabran Templar vs Cocoanut Koala Deathmatch, in world.
Round one) Discussion topic - Coco's choice, ten minutes, refereed, audience to vote for winner. Round two) Guns. Winner declared with a margin of three frags. Round three) Discussion topic - Enabran's choice, ten minutes, refereed, audience to vote for winner. Heck, I'd pay. And there are opportunities to make book. ![]() |
Enabran Templar
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11-17-2005 20:09
You know, that's just so crummy, Enabran. You couldn't be much crummier, you know that? Plus it's also untrue. I could be much crummier, but you're a mother and so I'd feel bad. Seriously, have you ever been in National Review? That'd be some redemption points for you right there. I guess I would take the Weekly Standard, too, but WFB Jr. is much more endearing to me than that fucking smug Bill Kristol. |
Enabran Templar
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11-17-2005 20:13
What about some sort of Enabran Templar vs Cocoanut Koala Deathmatch, in world. Round one) Discussion topic - Coco's choice, ten minutes, refereed, audience to vote for winner. Round two) Guns. Winner declared with a margin of three frags. Round three) Discussion topic - Enabran's choice, ten minutes, refereed, audience to vote for winner. Heck, I'd pay. And there are opportunities to make book. ![]() That's not at all fair, Tateru. I would win my topic and I would win the guns one because I make some of the foremost ass-kicking devices in SL. I might even win the Cocoanut one, except she would pick stuff like scrapbooking and medicare reform, or something else upon which I would be on less than stable footing. |
Cocoanut Koala
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11-17-2005 20:14
What about some sort of Enabran Templar vs Cocoanut Koala Deathmatch, in world. Round one) Discussion topic - Coco's choice, ten minutes, refereed, audience to vote for winner. Round two) Guns. Winner declared with a margin of three frags. Round three) Discussion topic - Enabran's choice, ten minutes, refereed, audience to vote for winner. Heck, I'd pay. And there are opportunities to make book. ![]() Silly, isn't it? I can't believe I spend this much time arguing with Enabran. What I really can't believe, though, is that he spends this much time arguing with me! Surely he's got better things to do. coco _____________________
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Pendari Lorentz
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11-17-2005 20:18
Silly, isn't it? I can't believe I spend this much time arguing with Enabran. What I really can't believe, though, is that he spends this much time arguing with me! Surely he's got better things to do. It is because he is male. You give much more thought, time, care, and even at times apologies to the men you fight with on this forum. You are such a flirt. I'm better, but you are still good. ![]() _____________________
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Magnum Serpentine
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11-17-2005 20:19
i saw this term being used in the Prokvy thread and wondered. Think: Starchamber. |
Cocoanut Koala
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11-17-2005 20:22
It is because he is male. You give much more thought, time, care, and even at times apologies to the men you fight with on this forum. You are such a flirt. I'm better, but you are still good. ![]() ROFL!!! I think you got it figured out, Pendari! coco P.S. You really did make me laugh out loud here, and I mean loud! _____________________
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Enabran Templar
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11-17-2005 20:26
It is because he is male. You give much more thought, time, care, and even at times apologies to the men you fight with on this forum. You are such a flirt. I'm better, but you are still good. ![]() You should have heard her private remarks about her spider's web. ![]() |
Enabran Templar
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11-17-2005 20:26
ROFL!!! I think you got it figured out, Pendari! You still didn't answer my question about National Review. |
Cristiano Midnight
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11-17-2005 20:26
spoken of wanting to rotate the profiles they feature, as well. That anyone would persist in maintaining that the screenshots on the website should be static forevermore, because "you know when you see Aimee, that you are on the SL website," is just ludicrous. I can only assume y'all are just pulling my leg. coco There is a big difference between maintaining that they should be static forever, and maintaining that it is at Linden Lab's choice and discretion on when they update their web site, who they feature, and if they decide to make Aimee the SL mascot. The entire thing is just not crusade worthy, as ultimately, they will do what they want with THEIR OWN WEB SITE.That you continually blur the two of them in the whole "you're either with us or you support terrorists" sort of way is the problem I have with It is similar criticism of your activism efforts for "equal opportunity" must mean the person is just opposed to equal opportunity, and how could anyone be opposed to that? It's a silly non-sequitur. _____________________
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