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blaze Spinnaker

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10-13-2005 19:09

From: Essence Lumin

Going back to Blaze's original post -

Why do you think that is? I haven't quite figured it out. Ever since I joined there were major dramas, often painful to read. The earliest I remember had to do with high prim bookshelves.

The dramas continued with a week break now and then until, well, it's a been a while but not too long - a few months?

What changed? Jeska? The forum layout? Other things?

I think the free account giveaway has helped a bit.

However, I also think they'll move back in. And then things will be bad, the lindens won't do anything about it, and people will be angry again.

What saddens me about this, is that these forum moderation concepts are very very basic. There are many senior examples of well moderated forums on the internet, but the powers at LL refuse to do the research and look around and see how the experienced people do it.

We have censorship on these forums. You can't get away from it. The key is to do it right - it's not that hard to do.

Jamie Bergman

SL's Largest Distributor

Join date: 17 Feb 2005

Posts: 1,752

10-13-2005 19:29

From: Ulrika Zugzwang

I know! When Merwan left it really transformed the forums.

~Ulrika~

Merwan Marker has retired from SL.

See This Thread:

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Kermitt Quirk

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Join date: 4 Sep 2004

Posts: 267

10-13-2005 19:46

I'm probably a bit off topic here, but I noticed this comment in your original post, Blaze...

From: blaze Spinnaker

... I can't do include files, programming in LSL is a nightmare ...

Sure SL doesn't have includes in the internal editor, but lucky for us there's always people out there trying to provide workarounds for some things like this. Have you ever looked at SciTE-Ez? I use it for every reasonable sized project I work on these days.

blaze Spinnaker

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Join date: 12 Aug 2004

Posts: 5,898

10-13-2005 19:58

I use emacs, it has all the same bells and whistles. I dropped in a symbol table as well.

I find scite-ez can't load files without doing some kind of mega-pause in the windows file dialog if I have SL up and running at the same time.

Buster Peel

Spat the dummy.

Join date: 7 Feb 2005

Posts: 1,242

10-13-2005 21:02

From: blaze Spinnaker

Whether it be from "malaise" or from disagreement with SL and how they do things, they have pretty much all moved on, and in their place are a new wave of optimistic, fresh, insightful, mature and very very creative individuals.

yathink that's it? "malaise"?

me, I think it was the suspensions.

Buster

Why my animosity towards LindenLabs is fading
blaze Spinnaker 1/2 Serious Join date: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 5,898	10-13-2005 19:09 From: Essence Lumin Going back to Blaze's original post - Why do you think that is? I haven't quite figured it out. Ever since I joined there were major dramas, often painful to read. The earliest I remember had to do with high prim bookshelves. The dramas continued with a week break now and then until, well, it's a been a while but not too long - a few months? What changed? Jeska? The forum layout? Other things? I think the free account giveaway has helped a bit. However, I also think they'll move back in. And then things will be bad, the lindens won't do anything about it, and people will be angry again. What saddens me about this, is that these forum moderation concepts are very very basic. There are many senior examples of well moderated forums on the internet, but the powers at LL refuse to do the research and look around and see how the experienced people do it. We have censorship on these forums. You can't get away from it. The key is to do it right - it's not that hard to do.
Jamie Bergman SL's Largest Distributor Join date: 17 Feb 2005 Posts: 1,752	10-13-2005 19:29 From: Ulrika Zugzwang I know! When Merwan left it really transformed the forums. ~Ulrika~ Merwan Marker has retired from SL. See This Thread: /140/d9/64186/1.html
Kermitt Quirk Registered User Join date: 4 Sep 2004 Posts: 267	10-13-2005 19:46 I'm probably a bit off topic here, but I noticed this comment in your original post, Blaze... From: blaze Spinnaker ... I can't do include files, programming in LSL is a nightmare ... Sure SL doesn't have includes in the internal editor, but lucky for us there's always people out there trying to provide workarounds for some things like this. Have you ever looked at SciTE-Ez? I use it for every reasonable sized project I work on these days.
blaze Spinnaker 1/2 Serious Join date: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 5,898	10-13-2005 19:58 I use emacs, it has all the same bells and whistles. I dropped in a symbol table as well. I find scite-ez can't load files without doing some kind of mega-pause in the windows file dialog if I have SL up and running at the same time.
Buster Peel Spat the dummy. Join date: 7 Feb 2005 Posts: 1,242	10-13-2005 21:02 From: blaze Spinnaker Whether it be from "malaise" or from disagreement with SL and how they do things, they have pretty much all moved on, and in their place are a new wave of optimistic, fresh, insightful, mature and very very creative individuals. yathink that's it? "malaise"? me, I think it was the suspensions. Buster

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