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Why my animosity towards LindenLabs is fading

Maeve Morgan
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10-13-2005 10:35
From: Eboni Khan



This isnt so bad.



That's actually pretty nice does it come in red? and Mem you are one of the few people I know who looks fabulous in slider hair :D
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10-13-2005 10:36
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Eboni Khan
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10-13-2005 10:40
From: Maeve Morgan
That's actually pretty nice does it come in red? and Mem you are one of the few people I know who looks fabulous in slider hair :D


Red, Blonde, Black, White, Brown. I never sold it because I thought there would be no interest.
Margaret Mfume
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10-13-2005 10:40
We should let our hair down and have a slider hair meet.

Please move this to the new products forum :D
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Katja Marlowe
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10-13-2005 11:05
From: Ingrid Ingersoll
This is good news! And now that you're feeling a bit better about things, I think it's a perfect time to nag you about the trolley in Boardman, which I love! But it keeps flying into one of the house on the corner and dissapearing at the end of it's route. Literally flying! It's frightening for newbies to witness. ;)



For some reason, imagining this and a newbie's reaction has me in near hysterics. Thanks Ingrid! :)
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10-13-2005 11:08
From: Enabran Templar
Well played, Seth. You didn't even need to use your Epic Keyboard to reduce me to dazzled admiration.



Imagine if he had used the Epic Keyboard tho Enabran, you'd be dazed and unconscious! *waggles eyebrows*
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10-13-2005 11:14
From: Katja Marlowe
For some reason, imagining this and a newbie's reaction has me in near hysterics. Thanks Ingrid! :)


It's not just newbies. I went to visit Ingrid the other day while she danced with a box on her head, and the trolley came by and then slammed into the house next door and disappeared, scaring me. It was very traumatic. I was worried about what happened to the poor people on board. Imagine, being innocently out for a tour of Boardman, and BAM right into the side of a ranch house. Tragic. It really puts your second life into perspective.
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10-13-2005 11:18
From: Margaret Mfume
The sincerity or intent of a poster can be a point upon which to react or not. For some the motive and intent of the poster are of prime concern as it is the basis upon which they will decide their next move and response. Another is to react to the ideas presented, address the words for their face value, with an understanding that the best way to dispel underlying currents is to pay them no mind. The many ways to approach the forum are as varied as there are ways to use SL.

What Margaret said. Here, so brilliantly, and in subsequent posts.

As for hair - well, I must have just a WHOLE lot in common with Philip! I still have my avatar I made on Orientation Island.

And I still love the way it looks! Like me, only better. And a little more stylized. (I don't wear that much makeup normally irl, but, after all, SL is like a stage, and I have always tended to wear stage makeup in games.)

And now, having read this thread, I know what "slider hair" means!

Which I have. I have slider hair. That sounds kinda awful somehow.

What was this topic about? Cause I could go on about the psychology of one's avatar at huge length. Oh yeah - Blaze being happier with SL cause he's happier with the forums.

I know what he means. And unlike others, I consider Blaze to be a complex individual who can't be written off with some sort of, "He admitted to being an alt and gaming the forums; therefore nothing he ever says can be sincere" approach.

Before he gets too big a head from that, I also consider him to have a touch of some other things, which I won't mention. But in any case, I always approach his thoughts as Margaret does. And his thoughts have been more consistant than they have been incosistant, even though they are more inconsistant than the thoughts of many if not most others.

It is better without so much fractiousness (is that a word?) in the forums. And in all games/environments, I think we can't help but be affected by what goes on in the forums. For me, that tends to affect my enjoyment in game more than it does my displeasure or lack thereof with the Lindens. But I suppose it does seep over to the Lindens a tad, and for Blaze, it apparently does so more than a tad.

All online games/environments one is involved in and cares about are like this, I think, if you involve yourself in the forums as well. My own SL is going pretty nicely. There have been some very bad times for me, but I have persisted and nowadays I'm pretty darn cheerful, which is actually my usual personality. I knew I'd get back to it eventually! And actually even enjoying the game AS a game, rather than doing nothing but retreating into work in it, while waiting for things to get better and me to feel better. I have persisted, because I knew that this game was made for me, too, and for everyone else (including Blaze), not just for a small number of individuals on the forums.

And before I get the "this isn't about you, Coco" comment - and indeed, in this case, I actually did talk about me - let me say that people should be able to talk about themselves and their own experiences in SL legitimately. As Blaze did when he began this thread, which is about personal feelings. Not just some people, but all people. The thing I have most hated about these forums is being told to hush up and be quiet - no one ever told me that before! But, like Blaze, I really do think things are improving here.

And whether or not they are, I'm more able to separate myself from forum things now and have fun in my own right, which is what all of us who want to participate in the forums, no matter how they are, should try to achieve. I always knew that, of course, but knowing it intellectually and doing it emotionally are two whole different things.

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Katja Marlowe
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10-13-2005 11:41
From: Cristiano Midnight
It's not just newbies. I went to visit Ingrid the other day while she danced with a box on her head, and the trolley came by and then slammed into the house next door and disappeared, scaring me. It was very traumatic. I was worried about what happened to the poor people on board. Imagine, being innocently out for a tour of Boardman, and BAM right into the side of a ranch house. Tragic. It really puts your second life into perspective.



I can definitely imagine that. Did you have nightmares? I mean, I might have. Those poor people!!!

(and not just about the trolley, but Ingrid dancing with a box on her head! :O )
Ingrid Ingersoll
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10-13-2005 12:42
From: Cristiano Midnight
I went to visit Ingrid the other day while she danced with a box on her head...


It wasn't a box, it was a brown paper bag with holes cut out so I could see. I was having a bad hair day, what can I tell you. Khamon was wearing a massive pumpkin at the time so I still felt prettier.

The Boardman Trolley is a tragedy waiting to happen. One of these days, it's going to fling some unsuspecting passenger into a wall. And then we'll be sued.
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10-13-2005 12:55
From: Margaret Mfume
For some the motive and intent of the poster are of prime concern as it is the basis upon which they will decide their next move and response. Another is to react to the ideas presented, address the words for their face value, with an understanding that the best way to dispel underlying currents is to pay them no mind.


Forum Performance Art byblaze

(Sorry, I couldn't resist. ;) )

Just to set the record straight, I regard blaze as a brighter, wicked-er, more creative version of Don Quixote de la Mancha, jousting at windmills not out of senile idealism, but with a sly sense of humor. I'm serious about the performance art thing - because the method has become the meaning in these kinds of forum dialogues, and yet that approach does show us something about ourselves, and how we react and what we take for granted. This thread is strong proof of that.

So there is always some value in assessing the motives of a poster, because sometimes those motives reveal an idea larger than the mere sentiments expressed.

blaze remains on my list of People Who Will Survive the Revolution. But I fear we will have to imprison him, even so. Even if we do, we'll give him his own video talk show.
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10-13-2005 13:25
From: Seth Kanahoe


Just to set the record straight, I regard blaze as a brighter, wicked-er, more creative version of Don Quixote de la Mancha, jousting at windmills not out of senile idealism, but with a sly sense of humor. I'm serious about the performance art thing - because the method has become the meaning in these kinds of forum dialogues, and yet that approach does show us something about ourselves, and how we react and what we take for granted. This thread is strong proof of that.

I know your serious about it. I don't disagree with this or your other play-by-plays. I'm not annoyed or anything like that. I just wait for the "Bravos!" from your fans to die down and then proceed. I will admit that I found your addition of photoshop to your posts to be kind of amusing in that I've been thinking of you as the forum color commentator for a while now.

Just to clarify :D

From: Seth Kanahoe
blaze remains on my list of People Who Will Survive the Revolution. But I fear we will have to imprison him, even so. Even if we do, we'll give him his own video talk show.

ok, Che :p
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10-13-2005 13:29
From: Margaret Mfume
I know your serious about it. I don't disagree with this or your other play-by-plays. I'm not annoyed or anything like that. I just wait for the "Bravos!" from your fans to die down and then proceed. I will admit that I found your addition of photoshop to your posts to be kind of amusing in that I've been thinking of you as the forum color commentator for a while now.

Just to clarify :D


ok, Che :p
http://www.rightwingnews.com/graphics/cheg.gif



Sorry, I couldn't resist.
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10-13-2005 13:37
From: Ingrid Ingersoll
It wasn't a box, it was a brown paper bag with holes cut out so I could see. I was having a bad hair day, what can I tell you. Khamon was wearing a massive pumpkin at the time so I still felt prettier.
Maybe it was the trolley trauma talking, but I found myself sexually attracted to the Pumpkin-Khamon. Also, he showed me a tree, so there you go.
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10-13-2005 13:41
From: Pol Tabla
Maybe it was the trolley trauma talking, but I found myself sexually attracted to the Pumpkin-Khamon. Also, he showed me a tree, so there you go.




hahaha! "trolley trauma"


Khamon never showed me his tree. :eek:
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10-13-2005 13:47
From: Margaret Mfume
I just wait for the "Bravos!" from your fans to die down and then proceed. I will admit that I found your addition of photoshop to your posts to be kind of amusing in that I've been thinking of you as the forum color commentator for a while now.


I am but a humble servant of the People, madame, and occasionally I have the honor of bringing color to their lives, and making them smile.

Oh, and the rumor that I died in Bolivia is unfounded.
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10-13-2005 14:17
From: Ingrid Ingersoll
It wasn't a box, it was a brown paper bag with holes cut out so I could see. I was having a bad hair day, what can I tell you. Khamon was wearing a massive pumpkin at the time so I still felt prettier.

The Boardman Trolley is a tragedy waiting to happen. One of these days, it's going to fling some unsuspecting passenger into a wall. And then we'll be sued.



Yay, a pic! If I see a brown paper bag wandering around with legs, I will say hi ingrid! :P lol
David Valentino
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10-13-2005 14:57
I'm starting a movement to save the trolls! If they are indeed endangered, then we need to make every effort to save them! Trolls have the right to thier forum habitat. Haven't we wiped out enough species already? Now we are trying to wipe out the troll population??

You should all be ashamed! :mad:
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10-13-2005 16:32
My feelings towards/against the Lindens have never been based on what others thought or said - on the forums or in-world. It was based on LL's own actions, statements, deeds - or lack thereof.

Since they've done little to change that, my own opinion hasn't changed any. Forums trolls or not.


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10-13-2005 16:58
Going back to Blaze's original post -
From: blaze Spinnaker

Why is that? Why am I no longer angry as I was before?

The answer is pretty simple: the forum trolls have all left. Except for a couple of die hards, one by one, practically every angry, mean tasting, personalizing and deragatory troll has moved on.


Why do you think that is? I haven't quite figured it out. Ever since I joined there were major dramas, often painful to read. The earliest I remember had to do with high prim bookshelves.

The dramas continued with a week break now and then until, well, it's a been a while but not too long - a few months?

What changed? Jeska? The forum layout? Other things?
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10-13-2005 17:12
From: Essence Lumin
What changed? Jeska? The forum layout? Other things?


Justice.


Justice has been exacted. The Metaverse Justice Watch is on the job.
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10-13-2005 17:29
From: Enabran Templar
Justice.

Justice has been exacted. The Metaverse Justice Watch is on the job.


Hmm, Who exacted this justice?
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10-13-2005 17:31
From: Enabran Templar
Justice.

Justice has been exacted. The Metaverse Justice Watch is on the job.


Hmm, Who exacted this justice? Who are the Metaverse Justice Watch?
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10-13-2005 18:19
From: Essence Lumin
Hmm, Who exacted this justice? Who are the Metaverse Justice Watch?


Sorry. It was a joke -- an allusion to yet another forum drama. You'll probably want to skip that one, though, it was pretty boring.
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Lisse Livingston
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10-13-2005 18:58
From: Margaret Mfume
I found the forums during a huge system crash as 2004 faded into 2005. Anyone remember how long was it down? Wasn't it more than a day?


Oh, um, I remember that one. It was the day I visited the LL offices in San Francisco. Everyone was celebrating launching a new update, and looking forward to having New Year's Day off. Although many Lindens were winding down after their efforts, I was impressed to witness Andrew diligently glued to his Sim monitor screen in case of problems, and Jeska toiling through the forums as usual.

Then we said goodbye and headed home, only to find the crash had happened just a couple of hours after we left. And of course, that meant they were all back in the office on January 1st, working huge overtime. :(

I do hope it wasn't our fault... I know my husband managed to distract Jeska from her work! But I swear, neither of us touched any keyboards or electrical plugs or...!

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