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Virtual Rape? How Does it Effect You When it Hits SO Close to Home?

Enabran Templar
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08-31-2006 18:57
From: Mulch Ennui
but she remains silent amid these horrific allegations, tacetly approving of this disgusting analogy


Silent as ever. What do we call it?

Double standard?
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Susie Boffin
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08-31-2006 19:01
Yes you can be raped in Second Life. Let me give you an example.

A close friend of mine was madly in love with her boyfriend and one day he got a notion to share her with his buddies. When she protested he told her to hit the road if she couldn't be nice to his pals. Well, I wasn't present, but I guess she did as she was told.

Some of you may not call this rape but I do.

BTW Aimee my SL partner is very interested in my panties. Does that make her a rapist? :D
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Aimee Weber
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08-31-2006 19:07
From: Susie Boffin
Yes you can be raped in Second Life. Let me give you an example.

A close friend of mine was madly in love with her boyfriend and one day he got a notion to share her with his buddies. When she protested he told her to hit the road if she couldn't be nice to his pals. Well, I wasn't present, but I guess she did as she was told.

Some of you may not call this rape but I do.
I see your point, but I don't see the connection to SL.

From: Susie Boffin
BTW Aimee my SL partner is very interested in my panties. Does that make her a rapist? :D


[Addition] No, interest in panties does not make anybody a rapist (nor did I say that). However, as I mentioned above, certain kinds of repetative aggressive interest in panties could be a warning sign of trouble to come.

Has your SL partner made unwanted comments to one particular person about their panties dozens of times including "I will slash through your frilly panties" ?
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08-31-2006 19:11
From: Enabran Templar
Silent as ever. What do we call it?

Double standard?


The normally outspoken, cannot speak out for fear of detracting from the imaginations of her accuser-by-proksy.
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08-31-2006 19:13
From: Susie Boffin
When she protested he told her to hit the road if she couldn't be nice to his pals.

This is trivial compared to RL where the girl may not have a choice of walking away. IMHO if she stayed in SL then it must be consensual. It sounds like she consented to be his slave.

I am really horrified at folks comparing SL situation to RL situation. One is makebelieve, the other is real and terrible!

All this is basically about power. The great thing about SL is that women have the power!

Ed
Susie Boffin
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08-31-2006 19:16
I give up on the Forums forever!!!!!!! Nobody ever understands me!!!!!! When I try to make a funny I am way too obtuse I think!!!!!!

Waaaaaaaa...... :(
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08-31-2006 19:19
You can not be forced into anything in SL. You can TP or X out at any time also.
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Lost Newcomb
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08-31-2006 19:22
From: Susie Boffin

A close friend of mine was madly in love with her boyfriend and one day he got a notion to share her with his buddies. When she protested he told her to hit the road if she couldn't be nice to his pals. Well, I wasn't present, but I guess she did as she was told.

:D


Screenshots?
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Aimee Weber
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08-31-2006 19:29
From: Susie Boffin
I give up on the Forums forever!!!!!!! Nobody ever understands me!!!!!! When I try to make a funny I am way too obtuse I think!!!!!!

Waaaaaaaa...... :(



Aweeee My bad! <3
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Teeny Leviathan
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08-31-2006 20:00
Did the penis ask permission to animate the avatar first? If not, it might be rape. :rolleyes:
Cole Riel
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08-31-2006 23:50
Probably, one of the reasons the forums will close is because of stupid threads like this and all the other ones dealing with sex.

You have those who swear they don't touch sex in here but yet never stopping mouthing off about it. Lies, lies lies. These people are so transparent it's not even funny.

Talk of rape in a game, another ridiculous waste of time. It's a game and some people will play it as they want regardless of things some consider in bad taste. What anyone thinks of any subject here doesn't really matter.

Then they ask why are the forums closing when useless topics like these are constantly being made up.
Mulch Ennui
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08-31-2006 23:55
From: Cole Riel
Probably, one of the reasons the forums will close is because of stupid threads like this and all the other ones dealing with sex.

You have those who swear they don't touch sex in here but yet never stopping mouthing off about it. Lies, lies lies. These people are so transparent it's not even funny.

Talk of rape in a game, another ridiculous waste of time. It's a game and some people will play it as they want regardless of things some consider in bad taste. What anyone thinks of any subject here doesn't really matter.

Then they ask why are the forums closing when useless topics like these are constantly being made up.


me thinks you perhaps should follow some links if you want backstory

you are missing a grand opera, and then speaking about how off key things are

there are many levels to some posts... the clues are there to guide you if you want to follow them, but if you want to skip over this particular threads nuances because you think this is your typical gorean/ageplay/furry rant, then you are missing out on some deep history

there is far more than a virtual rape allegation in this story, that is just sort of "icing on the cake" for this screenplay

that is all
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Lost Newcomb
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09-01-2006 00:15
From: Cole Riel
Probably, one of the reasons the forums will close is because of stupid threads like this and all the other ones dealing with sex.

You have those who swear they don't touch sex in here but yet never stopping mouthing off about it. Lies, lies lies. These people are so transparent it's not even funny.

Talk of rape in a game, another ridiculous waste of time. It's a game and some people will play it as they want regardless of things some consider in bad taste. What anyone thinks of any subject here doesn't really matter.

Then they ask why are the forums closing when useless topics like these are constantly being made up.


As human survival depends on sex and violence why should you be so worried about sex and all sorts of crap being in SL? We are emulating RL right?

This link provides a suitable backstory.
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09-01-2006 00:20
From: Lost Newcomb
As human survival depends on sex and violence why should you be so worried about sex and all sorts of crap being in SL? We are emulating RL right?


Lost, glib cop-outs like that only reinforce the outside impression that SL is a cesspit of amoral low-lifes.
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Lost Newcomb
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09-01-2006 00:25
From: Alazarin Mondrian
Lost, glib cop-outs like that only reinforce the outside impression that SL is a nest of amoral low-lifes.


It would be interesting to see how long that external forum survives though. Forums like that tend to fall into itself and disintegrate, often taking the users with them.

I think these people have been far too repressed on SL forums, and thus have to lash out like that there. Some of these posts are hilariously childish.

And some of these posts can be legally taken as threats. IMHO.
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09-01-2006 00:30
Oh I'm sure more than a few <ahem> special-interest <ahem> forums will be set up by law-enforcement agencies and run as honeypot traps. They can take whoever they want with them.

That forum you linked to.... not exactly the most civil of types. I'll remember to avoid that lot in future.
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Mulch Ennui
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09-01-2006 00:48
From: Lost Newcomb

And some of these posts can be legally taken as threats. IMHO.


if you are referring to the wierd spam threats going after somoneoneG, then i agree

as a matter of fact i quoted some and they can't delete them

if someoneG wants to involve Law enforcement, they should know SC complies with law enforcement requests, as some of those threats are very serious and the fact that the transmissions cross state lines is certainly a federal matter

besides, if you haven't noticed, the established community (like more than 5 posts ever) is pretty much not giving them what they want... check the people who have been there awhile with the higher postcount, they think this person is a tool as well

so, if you are basic your critique of SC on these particular threads, you know nothing

this is a random jackass who may or may not have to one day pay a real life penalty for making death and rape threats over the internet (across state lines)... they are spamming a forum and that is what that is
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Mulch Ennui
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09-01-2006 00:51
From: Alazarin Mondrian

That forum you linked to.... not exactly the most civil of types. I'll remember to avoid that lot in future.


as a deadhead your ignorant response offends me

or are you one of those hippies that is into designer bellbottoms, not ideals?

like i said, we have 1, possibly 2 freaks over there atm spamming death threats, but that could be remedied soon enough

pay attention to what the real users are doing and saying about the spam

those 2 alts are just up to something and using the freedom there to do it, and no one is fooled (except maybe you)
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09-01-2006 00:58
From: Mulch Ennui
if you are referring to the wierd spam threats going after somoneoneG, then i agree

as a matter of fact i quoted some and they can't delete them

if someoneG wants to involve Law enforcement, they should know SC complies with law enforcement requests, as some of those threats are very serious and the fact that the transmissions cross state lines is certainly a federal matter

besides, if you haven't noticed, the established community (like more than 5 posts ever) is pretty much not giving them what they want... check the people who have been there awhile with the higher postcount, they think this person is a tool as well

so, if you are basic your critique of SC on these particular threads, you know nothing

this is a random jackass who may or may not have to one day pay a real life penalty for making death and rape threats over the internet (across state lines)... they are spamming a forum and that is what that is


This Fictional guy, is he not the admin of that site?

Seeing his posts and I don't see how credible law enforcements cound be on that site. Look at the amount of childish garbage generated by him, including the topic at hand.

How are we to know that things would be handled unbiased? It's impossible with someone like that at the lead. I've seen forum admins like this "see l2blah forum", who take onto themselves to do whatever they like to the members, including threats to reveal RL info, IP info and so on.

Mulch, I was seriously considering that forum, but given the lack of leadership there, I don't know how well it would survive. Basically I need a long term forum, I'm not interested in Stratics and right now SLU is starting to look pretty good other then the fact not many people post there.

My own interests in that forum would be to lurk, cause I don't feel the place is unbiased enough to warrent posting.
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Mulch Ennui
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09-01-2006 01:14
From: Lost Newcomb
This Fictional guy, is he not the admin of that site?


yes

and he has to abide by the same rules his posters do

whats the issue?

From: Lost Newcomb

Seeing his posts and I don't see how credible law enforcements cound be on that site.


there were threats of criminal intent posted there today... if the person those threats wishes to persue them and law enforcement requests IP information, where is the problem?

From: Lost Newcomb

Look at the amount of childish garbage generated by him, including the topic at hand.


Um, he didnt generate that topic (if you mean for this post), it was me, and it was because he-who-shall-not-be-named has made a bold accusation that not only degrades real victims, but it is quite the step beyond the boundries he has already skirted past

oh yeah, and it is an utterly ridiculous charge

FIC.TIONAL had nothing to do with the topic at hand, except that he met coco in wrld, hopped on a couple poseballs with her, and published them, to which coco laughed, and this happened long ago, btw...

just another normal day in SL

yet, he-who-shall-not-be-named made the rape accusation today to insult him... that is his involvement in this fiasco

From: Lost Newcomb

How are we to know that things would be handled unbiased? It's impossible with someone like that at the lead. I've seen forum admins like this "see l2blah forum", who take onto themselves to do whatever they like to the members, including threats to reveal RL info, IP info and so on.


#1 it is unbiased because it is not modded... anyone can say what they like there... and in the current case where law enforcement may indeed become involved for the threats of a random internet nutjob, if you break the RL law you will have to deal with that... since it is unmodded, an unbiased method of free speech applies

#2 there is an option to turn the IP of each poster on, it has not been done, but that feature is built into THIS VERY SOFTWARE. it takes 2 mins to get a new anonymous email account, you shouldnt be sharing personal RL info on the internet anyway... what exactly needs to be trusted (not that there are any violations of trust, but if this is indeed your issue, you must be very new to the interwebs)

From: Lost Newcomb

Mulch, I was seriously considering that forum, but given the lack of leadership there, I don't know how well it would survive.


the leadership is the community, go in there and try your trolling there... dont say you dont troll because you are a troll, and if you run BS through there, you WILL get called on it... by the community already in place and the n00bies who are sick of the shit people spew and went to SC to get away from having to listen to that crap without speaking back

From: Lost Newcomb

Basically I need a long term forum, I'm not interested in Stratics and right now SLU is starting to look pretty good other then the fact not many people post there.

My own interests in that forum would be to lurk, cause I don't feel the place is unbiased enough to warrent posting.


i dont know what unbiased means since no one is moderated, but whatever, your choice

but to blame FIC.TIONAL for he-who-shall-not-be-nameds most recent sick stunt is completely idiotic
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09-01-2006 01:45
From: Mulch Ennui
as a deadhead your ignorant response offends me

or are you one of those hippies that is into designer bellbottoms, not ideals?

/snip


Pffft.

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09-01-2006 01:48
From: Alazarin Mondrian
Pffft.

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interesting response

i'll take that under consideration
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09-01-2006 07:16
From: Aimee Weber
Well, this is what happens when one hits the "hyperbole wall".



Time for someone to Godwin this thread. :eek:
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