Das Gildehaus

Sign me up for the guild.
I script.. I would consider myself at Journeyman level (I can't do any RPC..)

OK, Lance! If you'd like I could sponsor you. I'm trying to focus on event planners and scripters.

~Ulrika~

Sounds good.

Quick question Kendra.

Does a citizen of Neualtenburg have to be a member of the guild if they just to help with the building and scripting for the city, but not actually make things to sell or host events? Does a citizen have to be a member of the guild if they just want to make items to use in their own homes in the city?

Just curious where there may be a line for "neededing" to join the guild. Thanks for your help!

Hi yall.... I would like to toss my hat into the guild as well.

The idea I have is to build an Amsterdam-style Coffeehouse somewhere in the city... a place for all the "Herbalists" to come and hang out, chat, chill out, etc. How do you all think it would fit in within the community? And what would be the prim limit for such an endeavour? I'm thinking of a shop sized no larger than an existing house in the city.

Is there a specific section of the city set aside specifically for entertainment, marketplace, government buildings, residences? Or is is more organically distributed?

Peace and Happy Building!
Arti

I would like to be part of a guild.

I'd like to be an architect if there's room. I'm also interested in learning how to create textures. I think I have a program that could do it (Macromedia Fireworks?). To start perhaps I could do the design, and someone else could design the textures to decorate the buildings.

I noticed that in almost all of the pictures of bavarian buildings on the website the exterior walls of the building actually seem to lean inward slightly as the wall progresses upward (as if the base were slightly wider than the top of the building). It would be neat trying to replicate that. I think I can do it.

Texture-wise, I would like to see a bit more variety in the city than just the white with dark wooden triangles. It's a great starting place, but even just adding different colors would be a nice change.

Excellent! Both Kendra and I have both made textures for the structures, although Kendra has vastly more experience working with textures than I have. I think you'll find that you have to build the structure and textures at the same time to have a good final product. Thus you should pick a building in the city and build it from scratch. We have a limit of 25 prims on a building so it will be quite a challenge.

The good news is that if the building is unique and meets the requirements of the theme, it will be named after you (such as "Zugzwanghaus".

Brilliant! This is exactly the kind of thing we're looking for -- an escape from the typical box structures of SL. Feel free to bend, lean, and twist away.

I agree. As soon as I have time I'm going to replace the structures near the town square with a reproduction of the structures in the attached image.

~Ulrika~

Just to clarify real quick. When building within a 25 prim limit need I be concerned with the contents of the structure? Will I have to take into account the prims that might be used for seating or artwork or whatever else inside the building?

We have a 50-prim limit per structure (just the little brown-and-white ones). We are allocating 25 for the structure and 25 for the contents.

~Ulrika~

:: WHISTLES :: hmmm that's gonna be an interesting feat of builder talent!

What do yall think of my coffeehouse idea ehh???

Arti

I think the idea of a coffee house is great. I've noticed that some people in SL don't think it's cool to sit around and talk, but when you think about it sitting around talking is the core of every event activity in SL. You may be in competition with the pub, though.

I assume Meister means Master, which has a bit of a bad connotation to it, but regardless I'm ready to jump in.

If anyone would like to be my Miester ("I" before "E" except after "C", or is it?) I'm ready to start designing. Of course, I could design first, and then search for my Miester. I could always build at my place, and transplant it later.

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Ok, here's my architektural question:

Will I be working off a footprint? By footprint I mean the ground space at the base of the structure. Perhaps 10m x 10m square, or, for a more authentic feeling of tightness, maybe 8m x 10m to make the building look longer and leaner. Just wondering.

I've got some plans conceptualized. I mentioned that in some of the photographs provided that the walls appear to be leaning it as they extend upward. I took another look last night, and now I think it might be an optical illusion. However, it might be fun to play with that idea anyway, and see what comes out.

I'll be your sponsoring Meister. Feel free to get started at your place if you'd like until I get the new sign up sheet posted tonight or even if you prefer working there. I designed my fachwerk at my place in Seefeld and then brought it over.

Meister is a German word so there's a rule for figuring out whether something is "ie" or "ei" very easily (unlike English).

If it has an "eye" sound, it is spelled "ei" like "Meister" (master).
If it has an "ee" sound, it is spelled "ie" like "mieten" (to rent).

The trick is that the sound matches the last letter, "ei" -> "eye" and "ie" -> "ee".

For the smaller 25 prim structures the foot print is 10 m by 10 m maximum, however you can shrink it if you want. The height between the inside floors is five meters to prevent the camera from colliding with the ceiling. However, windows spaced five meters apart on the outside look strange, so for every two internal floors, there are three floors of windows outside. Buildings in the town can be between 6 and 8 external stories (between 3 and 5 internal stories).

Check out my fachwerk and you'll see that the bottom-floor windows are transparent, the next set of windows up are not transparent as they are placed where the next internal floor-ceiling is, and then the next set of windows up is transparent and looks in on the second floor. In short, each internal story is actually 1.5 external stories.

~Ulrika~

Master as in master-craftsman, not as in a slave-master.

Kendra just killed all my fantasies of her as my Meister


hehe.. j/k


I'm still having fantasies even with the real meaning! I am actually enjoying very much being a part of the guild and think that this branch is going to be a draw for many into the project! Excellent work!

I'm diggin' the near-instant feedback.

I'll restate that I'm not someone who knows offhand how to create textures. Based on what I've done in my graphics program I can imagine how texture design is formulated, but I haven't toyed with it at all to see whether or not what I imagine to be true is true. Does that make sense?

If there are sample window textures I'd like a copy. If I tried to make one on my own, would it be fairly easy? It would be cool if the window panes had frost around the edges.

Has anyone considered making a texture for snow-covered rooftops, or icycles (sp?) hanging from the roof?

http://home.t-online.de/home/ taxi-toys-ebert/pag_rot.htm

Hopefully that link works. Some cool pictures, though the structures look a tad drab.

Here's another one with some nice pictures to work from:

http://http://hide-mix.hp.infoseek.co.jp/advent2003/16/031216.htm

Well, Rock, I'd like to ask your permission to use the upcoming coffee shop to host a few discussion events there I'm a crappy builder & texturizer myself, so I'll just let you have all the hard work ... and me have all the fun, of course

I could alternate some of the events in the pub and in the coffee shop. Or perhaps do different themes in each one of them. How does that sound?

(Cool, I just noticed that we're both apprentices to Ulrika, heh)

Actually, it seems that I forgot to ask the pub's owner (Ursula?) for permission to host an event there. Oops. And it's going to be tomorrow (Tuesday, 2 PM PST). Just cleared it with Kendra the other day.

BTW, I'd also like to host a Mentor event next Wednesday, 3 AM PST. Pendari pointed out that the area near the Spital (the spot which is still unbuilt) is perhaps better to do these events, since the Hauptplatz (btw, the main square is called Hauptplatz or Marktplatz??) is currently heavily populated with stuff - which can confusing for SL newbies. I'll just drop a few chairs there, and encourage the newbies to visit the rest of the city afterwards.

And while we're talking about the Hauptplatz (Marktplatz?), Kendra has challenged me to create a contest for Christmas decorations, for Sunday. Now, after asking a little around, it seems that these types of event should be spread across a few days, to give the builders/texturizers time to think about their original work. So I'll suggest the following: officially begin the contest sometime on Wednesday, where the contestants may start building stuff on the Platz, and the "closing session" will be sometime during the Sunday. People already asked me how many prims they would be able to use, or how much space their creations can have. Any suggestions on these? I'd say, maximum 10x10x10m and 25 prims, to give everybody a fair chance - and there is not so much space in the Platz at all hehe.

So the "contest rules" would be handed out on Wednesday, and a winner picked on Sunday. Does this sound good?

Oh, and Rock, if you need anything scripted for the coffeehouse, just give me a ring.

Gwyn and Lance... I think you are confused... I'm the one who suggested the Amsterdam style coffehouse/coffeeshop idea LOL and I don't mean JAVA....

See my post above from 12/03/04, 1:20pm


see here THIS is more like what I mean:

http://www.coffeeshop.freeuk.com/ACDfrmGu.html?ACDpage=General/GenCS.html

peace and happy building!

Artillo

I think it's Artillo that wants to build the coffee house, not me. I support the idea, and would be happy to build anything, but that particular endeavor is not mine.

I don't mind at all! I also think Darko will really appreciate it very much.

~Ulrika~

And here I thought he was really talking about a coffee house.

Oh.. okay... well...

The offer stands, Artillo @_o

OOPS!!! Sorry for the confusion. After I while I lost track about who was posting about what (just reading the thread one page at the time ). Yes, I've pretty much mixed you both, didn't I? Many, many apologies to both Rock & Artillo...