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Jesse Barnett
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12-07-2007 16:05
From: Jana Kamachi Lol, I have an office chair that crashes most people with a nVidia graphics card when they see it >.> Ah heck. We woke up one morning and the Lindens confiscated most of the illegal texture sizes from the database and inventories about a year ago. I sure miss mine, it made a great anti-greifer bomb. Had it in an object that I could rez when I was being bothered in Aditi. Texture would change on timer and then change back. I would drop it down, teleport out and come back to find an empty sandbox to play in.
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Jana Kamachi
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12-07-2007 16:48
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You can't put 120k listens in an object...it would require 1854 scripts...and the total sim time that object would get would be very very negligable.
You can't now, as scripts-per-prim (or maybe object, this isn't documented and I never tested ) have been silently reduced to 1200 RUNNING scripts. You can have 50k scripts just fine ( wait an hour for it to load inventory ) as long as they aren't running. Items created BEFORE this change will work, but if you take to inventory and drop again, it'll be corrupted and will no longer even rezz. |
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Mrc Homewood
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12-07-2007 17:16
hehe i acculy crashed 2 islands by accident  back in the teen grid i scripted bombs and stuff for the one army and it somehow gliched and rez a extra object, the thing is those objects keep rezzing for about 5 seconds so there wer a blast of about 190 prim bombs all blowling at once ...... BOOM 2 sims the war was on crashed |
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Dnali Anabuki
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Ducks bring down sim!
12-07-2007 17:25
My two loved swimming ducks brought down a sim because somehow they became physical and phantom at the same time!!! and the server went nuts trying to calculate that!
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Void Singer
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12-07-2007 18:08
From: Jesse Barnett Ah heck. We woke up one morning and the Lindens confiscated most of the illegal texture sizes from the database and inventories about a year ago. I sure miss mine, it made a great anti-greifer bomb. Had it in an object that I could rez when I was being bothered in Aditi. Texture would change on timer and then change back. I would drop it down, teleport out and come back to find an empty sandbox to play in. the good old days.... back when I was less nice, I knew of a bug that caused crashes, and a fix that prevented on a per person basis... gave the fix to all the regular/legit people in the area, and when our normal harrassers came around (and we had plenty) click.... area cleared in 5 sec. I wish I still had a similar technique... I'm too nice to take out a whole sim to tag a few griefers
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Jana Kamachi
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12-07-2007 18:59
Make two hundred fifty six torii, set the INSIDE FACE to be changing color in a while() loop. Have it change size by lowest possible value while still updating. Then drop on someone. Anyone looking at it will have their bw instantly flooded and it'll force a disconnect. Doesn't affect anything else in the sim, but script perfs just a bit.
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Adz Childs
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12-07-2007 19:09
From: Jana Kamachi Make two hundred fifty six torii, set the INSIDE FACE to be changing color in a while() loop. Have it change size by lowest possible value while still updating. Then drop on someone. Anyone looking at it will have their bw instantly flooded and it'll force a disconnect. Doesn't affect anything else in the sim, but script perfs just a bit. That sounds like Snow Crash.
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Jesse Barnett
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12-07-2007 19:16
From: Jana Kamachi You can't now, as scripts-per-prim (or maybe object, this isn't documented and I never tested ) have been silently reduced to 1200 RUNNING scripts. You can have 50k scripts just fine ( wait an hour for it to load inventory ) as long as they aren't running.
Items created BEFORE this change will work, but if you take to inventory and drop again, it'll be corrupted and will no longer even rezz. Got tired of stuffing scripts into a prim but have it up at 1306 active scripts in one prim. They all work flawlessly. 1306 [19:09] Object: Touched. is more then enough for me  Easy enough to count em though. Touch the prim then copy from history, paste to Scite and look at the number of lines. And that is per prim, not object. Copy the prim and link them and they both work. I was pretty proud of myself till I realized............................................................. Jeez I really need to get a life 
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Void Singer
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12-08-2007 09:26
From: Jesse Barnett Got tired of stuffing scripts into a prim but have it up at 1306 active scripts in one prim. They all work flawlessly. 1306 [19:09] Object: Touched. is more then enough for me Easy enough to count em though. Touch the prim then copy from history, paste to Scite and look at the number of lines. And that is per prim, not object. Copy the prim and link them and they both work. I was pretty proud of myself till I realized............................................................. Jeez I really need to get a life all your life are belong to us  jesse, Jesse, come back to us, we need you Jesse.... can't you hear us? we're your friends, we care about you, your sould belongs to us - thus spake the forum
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Strife Onizuka
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12-08-2007 12:09
If I had a linden for every time I've crashed a sim I'd be rich... ok not rich but at least a little better off. Ok so maybe it would only be enough to buy a cup of coffee. Let me see... There was the Zero Cut shape change bug (it could crash sims and clients). Then the Zero Cut physics bug (same prim different failure mode). Then the Zero Advanced Cut bug. Then the random prim shape physics bug. The Broken Long Link Distance bug (this one was really interesting because it would take about 5 min after doing the offending action for the sim to die; meanwhile the offending object and users could leave the sim). The divide by -1 bug. None of them required hammering the sim, no need for lots of prims, just a couple simple scripts. Good times
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Bobbyb30 Zohari
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12-08-2007 12:11
From: Strife Onizuka If I had a linden for every time I've crashed a sim I'd be rich... ok not rich but at least a little better off. Ok so maybe it would only be enough to buy a cup of coffee. Let me see... There was the Zero Cut shape change bug (it could crash sims and clients). Then the Zero Cut physics bug (same prim different failure mode). Then the Zero Advanced Cut bug. Then the random prim shape physics bug. The Broken Long Link Distance bug. The divide by -1 bug. None of them required hammering the sim, no need for lots of prims, just a couple simple scripts. Good times I agree. The lindens and there 0's and 1's. They simply can't do math. |
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Shippou Oud
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03-27-2008 18:15
hehe, love the math bugs.
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Sansarya Caligari
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03-27-2008 18:36
Heh, the Starax Wand and a room full of chatty people. Good times |
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Tyken Hightower
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03-27-2008 20:14
Back! Back into the grave with thee, thread!
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Weedy Herbst
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03-29-2008 08:36
I blew up Crash Me with 10 lines of code. No Physics.
When the sim came back up, Dan Linden was like........... "AWESOME!"
Oddly enough, under normal circumstances, the script worked as intended for the purpose.
Most people would have been satisfied and released it, but I always test my scripts for errors when certain variables are not met. That's when I found the bug.
I added some if, else statements to workaround the issue and it's safe now.
I'm not sure if the issue was fixed in recent updates, because I'm not in the habit of crashing sims for the sake of curiosity.
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Random Torok
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How do we do this
03-29-2008 11:26
From: bladyblue Bommerang I had constant crash issues at the same time every morning. I asked Concierge to tell me what also occurs on the island at that time. They figured out that it always happened when my friend showed up. Come to find out she had old badly scripted stuff in her inventory that was causing the issue. We held her down and deleted the bad stuff and no more morning crashes. How do we determine what objects in inventory are bad? I've got a problem happening right now where after being online for 10 or 15 minutes SL freezes up. It freezes for about 5 seconds then momentarily unfreezes and then freezes for another 5 seconds. Relogging clears the problem up but only for about 10 or 15 minutes sometimes a bit longer. The problem seems to be worse on weekends. I did try a radical clean up on my inventory and that seemed to help. I'm wonderring if there is a limit to the number of items you can have in inventory, I've got about 12,000. RT |
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Mrc Homewood
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03-29-2008 23:12
haha your gonig to love this, i was talking to my friend today that has been on teen grid since i moved over here, he has become so dam bored he is trying to make a brain in sl 1000 scripts in 1000 prims all sending 1-2-3-4-5 commands back and forth can you say 1 mill scripts !!!! >  hasent told me if it crashed on him yet XD im sure it did /me thinks buggyness latly is his fault |
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Bobbyb30 Zohari
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03-30-2008 04:56
From: Jana Kamachi You can't now, as scripts-per-prim (or maybe object, this isn't documented and I never tested ) have been silently reduced to 1200 RUNNING scripts. You can have 50k scripts just fine ( wait an hour for it to load inventory ) as long as they aren't running.
Items created BEFORE this change will work, but if you take to inventory and drop again, it'll be corrupted and will no longer even rezz. Lol, what would you need 1200 scripts in an object for? |
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Bobbyb30 Zohari
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03-30-2008 04:58
From: Jana Kamachi Make two hundred fifty six torii, set the INSIDE FACE to be changing color in a while() loop. Have it change size by lowest possible value while still updating. Then drop on someone. Anyone looking at it will have their bw instantly flooded and it'll force a disconnect. Doesn't affect anything else in the sim, but script perfs just a bit. I believe that you rez inside faces regardless of whether or not you are looking at them, instead its limited by the drawing distance? |
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Day Oh
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03-30-2008 06:50
Quite true; however, a prim 0.01x0x01x0x01 in size will only be sent to clients who have their avatar within 16 meters of it
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Jesse Barnett
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03-30-2008 06:55
From: Random Torok How do we determine what objects in inventory are bad? I've got a problem happening right now where after being online for 10 or 15 minutes SL freezes up. It freezes for about 5 seconds then momentarily unfreezes and then freezes for another 5 seconds. Relogging clears the problem up but only for about 10 or 15 minutes sometimes a bit longer. The problem seems to be worse on weekends. I did try a radical clean up on my inventory and that seemed to help. I'm wonderring if there is a limit to the number of items you can have in inventory, I've got about 12,000.
RT That wouldn't be because of a bad inventory item. Lower your maximum bandwidth. If you are on cable, try around 500 kbps. If you are on DSL or something else, then lower it more then that.
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Day Oh
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03-30-2008 07:11
From: Random Torok How do we determine what objects in inventory are bad? I've got a problem happening right now where after being online for 10 or 15 minutes SL freezes up. It freezes for about 5 seconds then momentarily unfreezes and then freezes for another 5 seconds. Relogging clears the problem up but only for about 10 or 15 minutes sometimes a bit longer. The problem seems to be worse on weekends. I did try a radical clean up on my inventory and that seemed to help. I'm wonderring if there is a limit to the number of items you can have in inventory, I've got about 12,000.
RT Well, if you happen to have two items with the same UUID, (or maybe only when you have an item whose UUID is the same as the folder it's in, which was my problem [no idea how it happened]) it causes viewer freezes for some ungodly reason. You could pore over your .inv.gz file in your cache to try to find such a thing... mine is located at C:\Documents and Settings\<user name>\Application Data\SecondLife\cache\97b817dc-5dd3-498a-bdd2-5644d0aa8fb4.inv.gz But I would've never thought to look for that, myself... I just happened to find out when I tried Second Inventory and it threw a ton of error dialogs. I deleted the problem item using slproxy and the specific lockups ceased The specific lockups were immediately after the login process, upon opening the texture picker or resident picker, and upon opening a second inventory window, and only occurred if I let my inventory fetch or didn't clear my cache before logging in |
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11-11-2008 08:53
WARNING NecroPost
new crash (or rather halt)
2 lines of code
what do I win?
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Alicia Sautereau
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11-11-2008 09:04
From: Void Singer WARNING NecroPost
new crash (or rather halt)
2 lines of code
what do I win? crashed sim |
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Strife Onizuka
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11-11-2008 12:01
From: Void Singer WARNING NecroPost
new crash (or rather halt)
2 lines of code
what do I win? Mono or LSO?
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- Cyril Connolly
Without the political will to find common ground, the continual friction of tactic and counter tactic, only creates suspicion and hatred and vengeance, and perpetuates the cycle of violence.
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