Bot Pit of SL

No, it still exists. Just map Skin Oasis.

They haven't. Next question?

Aw, the Bot Pit was empty when I went there last night. (there were plenty of folks running about with their prim penises waving in the air, however.)

That is so creepy, here is another picture:

Dammit, another lost chance.....When I went there yesterday, it just looked like this:

Well the computer center has to stay on line 24/7 for my RL business, having karen available at a moment's notice is just a convenience.

And yes I do now spend much more time on Blogs like this, email, IRC etc. these days rather than Second Life.

It appears that I am not the only one who feels this way, or there wouldn't be a problem would there?

Well if it is on line anyway, no-I just thought about all the hassle a lot of people have to go through to even get SL running properly-it seemed like too much work just for "botting" .

It is there today, the pit is two levels below the small pond. The bots are on the bottom level at 4m.

Yeah, I cammed down....but wasn't able to actually *get* down. that would have been spooky....

well when I tp there it says its tp some where else and is un reachable. Put a the location again. becase the first one is not useable to me.

Did it in the first place nothing showed. did not work. searched all in serach and BING GO.....nice way to increase traffic........shakeshead

I think its more about get money ball hits as well. if most money ball hits get back to the owner. He not giving out much to start with. Nice new trick island owners are doing to not only trick in unknowing people there is free money. But also loading up on agents or avies within their island and getting all the money back as well. They use to do this trick in old sl in dance clubs ( and dance clubs are doing now too) now they are using in this fashion. Nothing new here but instead of taking regional resources and being Abused reported about Sim performance rules. They doing it on their own island. no rules are broken other then not paying for a war of avies.


B&B SKINS & MORE - FEMALE SKIN, , Skin Oasis (133, 197, 21) deep in a hole two levels down.

/me replaces Sindy's truck-of-snakes with a cement truck. Let's see if she notices! ^^

<IndianaJones>
Bots...why does it always have to be bots?
</IndianaJones>

The Limited viewers they run for botting don't hava all the memeory/graphics crashing or lag issues because they are low rez and leaner clients. They are designed so you can run 50 avatars on one PC

I agree with you.

I suspect that the typical sequence is somewhat like I went through.

I got SL running and then found out just how limited it really is. MUCH better than alternatives like there.com BTW, but still very very limited.

The limits of SL are mostly ones of governance and protecting people from bullies (aka political pressure groups), but they are very real limits for all that.

At that point I started to cut back on my participation and take a "why fight it" attitude. Since I have everything running anyway I just "park" Karen until I feel like doing something with her. Typically that is for about an hour or so every day, mostly to see if any friends have IMed me, but it varies depending on what else is going on in my life at the time.

I have also built several "bots" which I use on Opensim and to try out interesting ideas, that has not seemed to be worth the trouble to develop for camping. Obviously there are quite a few po\people who think that is worth the trouble however.

That being said, I have to admit that the current 'anti-bot" hysteria has produced some possibilities for having fun.

There are all kinds of really stupid tests around to see that a "real person" is actually sitting at the keyboard watching all of your spam that you are actually paying (GASP!) US$.02/hour for me to respond to.

The idea of a "chatter box" to emulate a "real person" while camping has some really interesting aspects to it.

It could be a good test of the current level of the "Turing Test" for example - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test

I have even produced a "first cut" of an "escort Bot" which will truly do anything you want - with NO limits of any sort-except those imposed by the hardware! LOL.

"I want you to be a 3 ft tall green Martian with a 10 foot penis" "How is this master?" ...

GREAT fun after a couple of glasses of wine

In fact we almost died laughing at the things you could make the "chatter box" do with the phrase "I want to fuck a duck" inserted at critical moments! I leave that to your imagination.

All the same it is a matter of exhausting what SL has to offer, and "camping" is what is "safe" and available for the moment without totally "pulling the plug".

When and if camping goes away, then I will also go away. I suspect that is true of a huge number of marginal second life participants.

I have never been an anti-camping person. I camped a lot, but I also invested and have a productive business. Camping was a stepping stone, and I don't look down on newbies for doing it. What people DO mind is camping abuse. Where one person decides to take up the lion's share of a sim's resources, and people who live in the sim can't get in. The fake traffic that drives people to do outrageous things to get seen in search.

Camping itself will never die, as there will always be people looking to help newbies out. Camping abuse is what would die, if LL decided to take a stand against such abuse. At this point it is unlikely that it will happen. The use of alt farms to game inbound links and traffic to get high ranking in search will continue as long as those factors are relevant to ranking.

HMMM, where is it written that "camping is just for newbies"? Or for anyone else for that matter?

Part of the problem is that everyone seems to have a different expectation about just why someone camps or puts up a camping area. Then they seem to get very upset when these vague sand unstated expectations are not met!

Another aspect that you hint at is that "land" is allocated and paid for by the square meter, but the true "scarce resource" is "sim resources" - "prims", number of AVs in the sim etc.

Obviously someone with a 512 sqM plot who always has 100 Avs (bots or "real people" is simply being a hog!

That is a problem of good neighbors, not with "camping"!

If the same person ran some incredibly interesting seminar, business, or event (great sex for everyone or some such) then the result and the complaint would be the same!

I really don't know of any widespread definition of exactly what motivates someone to put a camping area onto their sim, but certainly as a "marketing" tool camping makes much more sense than many real life ventures.

Many of the Superbowl Ads come to mind - I have a friend who analyzes them as part of their advertising consulting business. They have some really great examples of ads that are truly pointless! Many don't even identify who is sponsoring the ad, let alone whatever the messag eis supposed to be.

Probably "we wasted $3M of our client's money - aren't we great!" if you could only get someoen to be honest enough to own up to their true motivation.

In business as in life fuzzy goals produce fuzzy results ...

Wel thats what they said about dance clubs gambling. But look now? dance clubs are almost dead, gambling is finished......... camping wil be too when LLABs decides to once again screw with the people on sl and change the rules to see how upset we become ( we are al a PH.D research topic to some that are doing it on sl upper ranks ). Camping might not be dead yet but give it a 1 year or so. it might be then. With Linden Research these days we are reseach subjects then users on sl.

First and foremost Linden Labs is a business and needs to make a profit or they will simply cease to exist!

I have no idea if "camping" will ever go away, but I have been playing here a year now and hearing this kind of prediction for that entire time.

It is worth noting that the three things that have caused SL to lose massive numbers of players (banning of many forms of sexual activities, banning of gambling, and imposition of the EU VAT) were all imposed on Linden Labs from outside forces.

I am sure that there are many many studies being done on the SL population, most of them done very badly.

One of the examples of just how badly such studies are done is in Stanley's "Marketing to the Affluent" - based on his research into marketing efforts aimed at the very rich (US$3M to US$10M net worth). He claims that this group is the most under-marketed in the world, and that such sales/marketing that does occur is done badly.

As a result these affluent people actually have a very hard time finding the goods and services that they want and need. That is certainly consistent with my own experience!

I am sure that the studies of Second Life players are just as poorly done and really lies behind the many of the bizarre actions that you see from the corporate players.

Oh sure that is the truth. Why you think they want large ad paying companies to place island size ads all over second Life.




Well when Second life was young even before I, the tried to stimulate users first by have social areas Like dance clubs, gabling etc.......They thought they never leave. But look now gambling is history and dance clubs are almost none exist these days.



said it at the start with gambling..............VAT well that hit some but it was not that large as some are making it out to be. Banning sex? Well look at all the sexual content islands and sims ( mostly populated by underage people) I believe your refering to kiddy porn issues that occured eary inthe year. Banning sex well me the final banning Camping will me first. Since there are many creators making sexual content objects and making alot of money in rl with it.



Well its a understatement. Linden Reasearch has badly done more then their share of studies with in the game. But that doesnt given them the right to continue to cause problems and social issues that are would be laught at by any enviromental and social professor. Some planned or staged so badly they smelled of social impact study. Illegal yes but as the real laws say if all VR nothing exist right? So again they can get away with breaking laws claiming "WELL If it doesnt exist phyically we are not breaking laws) Well Sooner of later it will catch up with them. screwing with people minds and social patters, breaks ever underwritten psychology rules and laws or human research.



Marketing on second means one person assuming the possiblities, and another thinking how to PR the game to those that care or even dislike VR games.......Undermarketed in the world? Well frankly speaking we topped out a year ago. Oh yes large companies are coing in. But they are paying ad companies that leave after they learn the truth about how badly the game is controled and run. ( it wasnt always this way) but its become part of it now a days.




Linden Reasearch has been know to screwup ever possible ...[/QUOTE]

The keys word here is "affluent people actually have"............ Poorly done studies results because of not learning about past mistakes. Hence we will continue on this downward trend in bizarre array of problem issues........As a result corps will continue to leave because of the lack of learning from past mistakes. Resulting in a continue down down and downward spin until we hit bottom.

The "Kiddy Porn" issue is a total fiction. The actual "virtual kiddy porn" episode was staged by a German TV crew.

In fact there has been a "hit squad" from Linden Labs who have shut down many sims because of "Broadly Offensive Content" that had nothing whatever to do with child AVs or Child sex.

The actual guideline seems to be what the US Credit Card companies consider to be unacceptable - whatever THAT is this week.

You can only fit so many avatars in a Sim at one time...and they're taking up our "breathing room".

Exterminate them.

Fan out and aquire your targets, make every shot count.

We'll rendevous at Pooley later.

Synchronize watchesssss.........................now.

Well you win a prize for figuring that the kiddy porn just like 98% of other issues that Linden Labs staged or badly PR during these past 2 1/2 years.

Well anyone that is knowing of internet gambling laws and credi card comapnies knows this nothing new here for those that lived through them. No big deal as they say.

Anyways Happy New years from Tokyo Japan

From

Usagi and Natsu

Sigh - it is too bad that only the nutty parts of US politics gets sent overseas.

Believe it of not we DO have some moderately competent politicians!

I have traveled enough to realize just how crazy American politics does sound if you don't know the context though.

You are quite right about LL doing most things badly, but that really is a consequence of bing a small and growing company.

I have worked for several "startups" and funded several others - LL is really no worse than most. They are actually surviving so far which says that they are doing SOMETHING right if only by accident.

90% of small businesses fail in the first year, 90% of the rest "shut down" within 5 years! The rest provide ALL of the growth in US jobs 2000-2005 (Alan Greenspan)

Its not bashing the usa here, but what is resulting because of issues relating to the usa.
Linden Reasearch Inc ( as they are called now ) needs to start learning from past mistakes and apply the the future. Otherwise as i said in the last post Linden Reasearch Inc is how old now 4 years now. They have learned a little about how not to. BUT they also stop hearing the users resulting in the current condition that leads us to are present unstable totally mucked up game . Bugs continue to be unheard and ignored just like the current one with selling multi fold objects. VAT, AGe checkinf etc etc etc has caused more issues and problems then ever in our history on sl. Nobody like depressing chat, but we need action soon. Bugs, badly created UI.........Along Some Lindens running around rah rah everything just don`t solve problems. It just creats more. Make things alittle more stable and enjoyable for the users and people will stop bit**ing as much. Its simple logic. Lets hope Linden Reasearch Inc. take this into logical thinking and stops the spread of this virus.