Jerky loop trouble

Sorry I haven't been keeping up on my email. It was a full loop. I have seen the partial upload loop bug, and try not to use the uploader to cut anything with anymore.

Please do not give up.

Yes I saw that post. That is the same thing they told us in early Dec which is when I sent in my bug report. Since I had not heard back from them I made another linking Stroker's origional hotline post and this thread. I have been asked to send in examples.

Also I had Altrumia out and showed her the ones that I had.

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I figure that the best way to get them no to put this bug on a to do sometime maybe never shelf, is to have as many people as possible to submit. The more we flood them with examples of what is going on, the more (possibly) that the will look at. Also, the more residents that submit the more they will realize it's not just one resident's fluke.

I am currently compling a folder of bugged animations to send to Torley and Altruima along with a notecard of what the issues are that we have found. Could anyone who has been having these issues send me examples and I will send them along with mine. I figure that if they are in one folder, they will not get lost in the inventory Or send them yourself if you feel more comfortable.

I will also be following up on this as to make sure this gets fixed ASAP.

Cheers.
Luth

I still have to test Seagels fix from the link, but once I do good or bad, I'll send you the one's I've done that bug out.

I'm thinking that it should work, understanding the logic of "moving" EVERY joint at least a tad.

This would give that bone "something to do" on frame 2 instead of doing, literally, the same thing it's doing in frame 1, which would be ?"setting itself for SL" so it has no choice but to continue "looking" for some kind of "set" position, which you don't see in the animation. If set is say X and the next frame doesn't give it something other then X, eventhoughit's keyframed "it" doesn't think it's got any instructions and keeps wiggin lookin for set, if frame to is now moved to "Y" ("X" + 1 degree twist) it should now KNOW what it's supposed to do on frame 2.

LOL well, it sounds good anyway

I'll be testing by tomorrow, day after maybe Letcha know how it goes!

Just to let ya guys know I'm very curious about all this "Jerky loop trouble" and since I'm a big fan of kewl anims in SL, you can bet I want them working right--I'm clearly not the only Linden who does either!

And yesh I will say to have PLENTY of examples of what's going on really helps illustrate it... it's like a boat being loaded up with fish, OMG! I CAN SEE ALL THE FISH! Or in this case, I CAN SEE ALL THE WONKY ANIMS!

Keep posting new discoveries!

I'm so glad Luth pointed me to this thread, because I'm having the exact same problem with drifting feet. I stick those feet in the ground in Poser -- with or without Inverse Kinematics -- but by golly they slide all over the place in SL. This is a *major* problem!

I think I also see a little of the jerkiness Jesse and others describe. E.g., I have feet stock-still in Poser, but they jump around (or slide) in SL. It's driving me nuts!

I'm glad to hear at least one Linden is aware of this issue. It's a real show-stopper for animators. I gave a few sample "problem" anims to Luth to pass on to the Lindens. In each, my swaying slow-dancer is in fact sliding around as if she is on skis. I'm happy to send pz3 files or SL anims or both to whomever would find them helpful.

Yes compensating worked out for me. It does not eliminate the jerkiness that people are seeing. It indeed creates more jerkiness due to miniscule movements during compensation, and my lack of modivation to get it absolutely perfect.

BTW, having experienced this personally now, I sent in a bug report and pointed to this thread. Thanx for sending me the anims, Luth--and if you've got this problem too, please send a bug report (that's HELP menu ---> REPORT BUG) so that we know you've experienced this for yourself as well! Any and all additional observations are welcome.

Yes...thanks to all who have made this a prevelant issue..lets see if anything gets done.
Not to be a pessimist, but a good portion of us filed bug reports/posts MONTHS ago.

Thanks Torley and Luth

I'm glad to hear this is on the Linden radar screen. It is far and away my biggest issue with the game.

G'DAY SL ANIMATORS!

Just wanted to post an update to this... this is a KNOWN issue and will be FIXED in a future version of SL. For more details on when, keep looking at Known Issues with the release schedule 'n' all.

That's great news, Torley! I didn't see a timetable in the Announcements sections, but I heard a rumor a fix might be in as soon as next week. Is that true?

I didn't hear that rumor but it'll be scheduled ASAP I hope!

This was posted yesterday in a different thread about the same issue.

Thanks everyone for all the research so they could figure out the problem quicker Not to mention all the examples sent inworld to prove its not just one looney resident.

Yup I always find that's like a bunch of eyewitnesses at the scene of a crime... in this case, a HIP CRIME! RUR RUR RUR.

But seriously, new info has been formalized in the latest UPCOMING FIXES if anyone hasn't seen it yet:



Emphasis mine.

Please tell me this "fix" will not be retro-active and I wont log in to find all the ones I have made(and sold) in which I compensated hugely in poser for SLs various hip related problems, will look completely wrong.

I can think of at least 6 I have off the top of my head, in which I had to make the anim look ridiculous in poser to make it look ok in SL, it took a lot of weeks to do this and Im sure going to have a lot of annoyed people IMing me when they all suddenly look ridiculous in SL.

Can you tell me if already uploaded anims are like "cast in stone" and will remain as they are now or are anims in SL simply a BVH that is read when the anim is run according to how SL currently understands them(or doesnt in this case) ?

^ It won't change your already-uploaded anims! "Cast in stone" is a parfait way to put it.

Lovely, thankyou

Welkies! Animate on!

Craig, I'd been wondering how you managed to get the legs in your "waltz" to look plausible. Every dance I try to upload looks like ice skating.

I'm counting the day til this update!

Torley, I'm really pleased to hear that SL will fix some bugs. But I've not encounterd this trouble that everybody is annoyed. Recently, I've made a couple of walking and running animations but they have worked just fine.
Does this bug have some triggers? This kind of disclosure would give ppl an interim help until the next update.

I don't know of anything specific to avoid beyond the obvious (not rolling the hip and related parts, which limits what you might want to do), although I'm not an animator so I haven't delved deeply into this.

Not rolling hips??

LOL..well that kills dancing and sex!

Its been almost 3 months now, I have given up on animations.

FIX THE BUG FGS!!

(p.s. thanks Luth and co. for all your help in bringing this to LL's attention)

The fix is planned to make everything good as you remember it... as I'm sure you've read earlier.

Once again for enthusiasm:

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No fix in today's update?

Nope, I asked on the hotline last night. Guess it's just not a big priority that everyones been waiting to upload animations.

Just have to wait another week to upload them, that is if we're luckly and they do fix it by then.