You broke the minimap. Avatars no longer show on the minimap in sims running this new borked version.
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I cannot confirm this. Minimap looks fine here.
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Winter Ventura
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10-03-2008 11:11
You broke the minimap. Avatars no longer show on the minimap in sims running this new borked version. Try again. I cannot confirm this. Minimap looks fine here. _____________________
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Chandra Magic
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Join date: 12 Jun 2008
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10-03-2008 11:18
Minimap looks fine, though I've noticed sculpties in one Region I'm in not entirely working. That is, some of them work, and some of them don't, well, sculpt.
Could be just me, but I'm throwing it out there, all the same ETA: I should mention I'm on the RC viewer (1.21.4) |
eku Zhong
Apocalips = low prims
Join date: 27 May 2008
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10-03-2008 11:20
My mini-map is working fine in the restarted sims (using the RC client anyway). my minimap is broken using Second Life 1.20.16 _____________________
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eku Zhong
Apocalips = low prims
Join date: 27 May 2008
Posts: 752
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10-03-2008 11:43
The Restart also rolled back the Sim by 2 days...
I recommend ppl who have builds out there to save them now.. before you lose it. I redid the roof on my store almost 3 days ago.. textured it and now its plywood again... _____________________
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Dytska Vieria
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10-03-2008 12:03
The Restart also rolled back the Sim by 2 days... I recommend ppl who have builds out there to save them now.. before you lose it. I redid the roof on my store almost 3 days ago.. textured it and now its plywood again... Are you sure it's the restart? I am on a sim with 1.24.8 and although I haven't changed any builds since Sept 30, my visitor monitors show data from today back to a week ago with no interruptions/missing data. _____________________
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eku Zhong
Apocalips = low prims
Join date: 27 May 2008
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10-03-2008 12:23
Are you sure it's the restart? I am on a sim with 1.24.8 and although I haven't changed any builds since Sept 30, my visitor monitors show data from today back to a week ago with no interruptions/missing data. before the restart the roof was textured so was the ceiling and the edges .. diirectly after the restart the whole thing was plywood.. the exact same texture is used on the floor .. so it wasnt a case of missing texture .. the floor was fine... the only thing i can think of is that it was the restart. _____________________
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Dytska Vieria
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10-03-2008 12:29
before the restart the roof was textured so was the ceiling and the edges .. diirectly after the restart the whole thing was plywood.. the exact same texture is used on the floor .. so it wasnt a case of missing texture .. the floor was fine... the only thing i can think of is that it was the restart. hmmm. My other sim just restarted and nothing has changed - all the building I have done today and yesterday and up to a few minutes ago is just the way it was before. These are both mainland sims, if that matters. _____________________
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Lesheran Odriscoll
Neko Taco Pirate
Join date: 24 Dec 2007
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10-03-2008 12:33
Yes, the rolling restart that is going right now is not something that was planned until last night, and there will be more information as it ends and we're able to gather ourselves together. Did you guys happen to observe a large amount of sim lag with the 1.24.7? Yesterday I was only on Ireben and Cardew and watching the stats the sim would go down in the 20fps range seemingly w/o anything going on. |
Renee Faulds
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10-03-2008 12:37
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Renee Faulds
Rises Out Of The Ashes
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10-03-2008 12:41
Yes, the memory leak rolling restart was particularly painful. It's also not characteristic of every rolling restart we have. yeah right.............................. just like the last 2-3 version......restart rollback restart rollback restart what a pain in my butt this is........ Renee Faulds |
Cincia Singh
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10-03-2008 13:03
yeah right.............................. just like the last 2-3 version......restart rollback restart rollback restart what a pain in my butt this is........ Renee Faulds Hey, they could always go back to completely shutting down the grid for a day (or more) while they restart everything and fix all the glitches! One thing's for sure, the grid won't stand still. So be careful what you whine about/wish for! |
Andromeda Quonset
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Join date: 20 May 2006
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10-03-2008 13:14
1. I think that the current, rolling restart methodology where the grid remains open to residents is more useful than the methodology whereby the entire grid shuts down. For instance, if something really dire and catastrophic starts happening, and residents make it known, there is always the chance that the rolling restart will get paused, while a decision is made. Otherwise, I can see the grid being down for 3 -5 hours, then brought back up, and feedback on a problem being delayed due to the lack of residents online.
2. I did notice some problems under 1.24.7, but it wasn't my sim, just one that I am on a lot, and have limited access to land parameters. I was noticing that prim counts were not right, and I saw a parcel reporting full when it wasn't. This was a few hours after the time dilation had dropped to 0.20, and stayed there for 30 minutes, before coming back to something normal. |
Mifune Thibaud
Aviation Architect
Join date: 6 Dec 2006
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10-03-2008 13:29
I for one am happy for rolling restarts. It lets me know that progress is being made and potential security threats are being addressed. Had many issues the last month with the libSL client that shall remain unnamed...
I do like the idea of keeping connected sims in the same collocation centers. While it may mean that a server issue would put whole swaths of land offline, the region crossing improvements make it worth the logical assignment. It definitely beats having to continuously restart the sims in order to get an IP placement that is optimal. I had spoken with several liasons who had told me that server assignment was purely random, but also some that had said that they try to keep them grouped together as much as possible...since communication with liasons isn't "official" from Linden Labs, should we be expecting an official statement in the wiki and knowledgebase that will state the new policy regarding server assignment? |
Awnee Dawner
object returned to sim
Join date: 7 Apr 2008
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10-03-2008 13:31
hey!
rr to version 1.24.8 no missing object or other problems everything works fine for me (my sim) last object was build today minimap works fine too client: mac version 1.20.16 thank you _____________________
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Renee Faulds
Rises Out Of The Ashes
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10-03-2008 13:38
Hey, they could always go back to completely shutting down the grid for a day (or more) while they restart everything and fix all the glitches! One thing's for sure, the grid won't stand still. So be careful what you whine about/wish for! Yet there is never even an apology for basically killing business for a day each restart - last version restarted my region 3 friggin times now this ! If it isn't the damn asset server it's restart restart restart. There are a lot of MAD business owners !! "We" are the ones that have to explain to customers it was Linden Lab's fault NOT Linden Lab's. It is us business people that have to refund or give away products to satisfy MAD customers NOT Linden Lab's. It is the business owner that 'pays' tiers even though we are loosing money NOT Linden Lab. It is us business owners that have to answer a ton of IM's from pissed off customers NOT Linden Lab ! Like I don't have better things to do than explain it was Linden Lab's fault NOT my vendors ! Damn right I am mad ! ....and yes the mini map is screwed up, has been off and on for a week, I'd put in a jira about it but it would sit on the shelf like the 3 I have there now ! Renee Faulds |
Cincia Singh
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Join date: 26 Jun 2007
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10-03-2008 14:00
Yet there is never even an apology for basically killing business for a day each restart - last version restarted my region 3 friggin times now this ! If it isn't the damn asset server it's restart restart restart. There are a lot of MAD business owners !! "We" are the ones that have to explain to customers it was Linden Lab's fault NOT Linden Lab's. It is us business people that have to refund or give away products to satisfy MAD customers NOT Linden Lab's. It is the business owner that 'pays' tiers even though we are loosing money NOT Linden Lab. It is us business owners that have to answer a ton of IM's from pissed off customers NOT Linden Lab ! Like I don't have better things to do than explain it was Linden Lab's fault NOT my vendors ! Damn right I am mad ! ....and yes the mini map is screwed up, has been off and on for a week, I'd put in a jira about it but it would sit on the shelf like the 3 I have there now ! Renee Faulds Did you think SL would be a nirvana where you didn't have to "earn" trust and a good reputation by recovering from incidents that weren't your fault? Just be glad there's no FedEx or UPS equivalent in SL lol. And just how much trouble can 3 x 45 min rolling restarts cause, especially since two of them gave ample warning? My mini map has been fine, both in the RC and in the standard viewer, all the way through this and for the last few months. And you know what? If it's too much trouble for you to put it in the Jira, I don't give you any sympathy. |
Dilbert Dilweg
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10-03-2008 14:03
At the moment, practically speaking, I can not tell you when your region will get restarted within the windows provided. If I could, I would. The information I *can* give you is unreliable, and I am going to stand by not giving that unreliable information even though some keep asking for it, because it implies a promise that I'm not able to make. A couple of restarts ago you Scheduled Restarts to Start @ 5 Am . they didn't start till around 5:50 AM (Unreliable information posted Why should it change now?) Again a few rollouts ago, you Scheduled restarts and DaY 2 rolls around and Nothing has started. It was posted that they will be delayed a day. Then Posted again they will be delayed a week ( More unreliable information posted) So if you feel that all your posts are considered a promise You break promises all the time. Almost weekly. Why Should adding odd or even in the schedule be such a more important promise than the next? Schedules should read as
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Renee Faulds
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10-03-2008 14:05
And you know what? If it's too much trouble for you to put it in the Jira, I don't give you any sympathy. What's the use, look at the jira, 99% of it's been there well past 120 days ! |
Zena Juran
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10-03-2008 14:08
SLeek is working fine again. Mini-map is okay. Broke 2 vendors... something ALWAYS breaks on a rolling restart. And the last 15 characters of the land description got truncated... as always.
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Lesheran Odriscoll
Neko Taco Pirate
Join date: 24 Dec 2007
Posts: 27
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10-03-2008 14:20
Hey, they could always go back to completely shutting down the grid for a day (or more) while they restart everything and fix all the glitches! One thing's for sure, the grid won't stand still. So be careful what you whine about/wish for! I perfered the everything down at once method. If it were something like the 10th of every month they took the whole grid down for upgrads that wouldn't be so bad. Hell even once a week would be so bad as long as ther was notice of it and it was consistant. |
Sharie Criss
I'm just peachy, thanks
Join date: 4 Nov 2007
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10-03-2008 14:23
Are you still seeing that? Looks ok to me... Today is better now - BUT - that was bad. When you see traceroute times where the last hop is so out of whack, it is CLEARLY a network issue that CLEARLY is in very serious need of attention by someone. As a response to the route taken to get to Phoenix and the fact that it is worse from a response time point of view than the other datacenters, LL should be all OVER it. SL is an application where latency causes REAL performance problems (LAG) - an issue that is one of the top concerns of SL users. Please don't sweep the issue under the carpet. Most likely the issue here is a real problem for anyone east of Phoenix (which not only is a majority of the population of the US, but probably includes all of Europe, the majority of the population in Canada, etc.) Yes, this is off topic to this thread, but there doesn't seem to be any other thread that is actively read / responded to by LL employees. ![]() |
Argent Stonecutter
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10-03-2008 14:33
Good idea! The problem is that between the blog, status page, and these forums, it is already difficult to keep the information current. What makes you think an in-world status device would get reliably updated? |
Cincia Singh
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Join date: 26 Jun 2007
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10-03-2008 15:19
A couple of restarts ago you Scheduled Restarts to Start @ 5 Am . they didn't start till around 5:50 AM (Unreliable information posted Why should it change now?) Again a few rollouts ago, you Scheduled restarts and DaY 2 rolls around and Nothing has started. It was posted that they will be delayed a day. Then Posted again they will be delayed a week ( More unreliable information posted) So if you feel that all your posts are considered a promise You break promises all the time. Almost weekly. Why Should adding odd or even in the schedule be such a more important promise than the next? Schedules should read as
Help us be more prepared if your going to force us to endure all the updates and failures Things are much better now than they used to be. **poke poke** And no one is forcing you to endure anything. Meanwhile you impose your incessant whining on the forum! |
Yulia Shelman
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10-03-2008 18:30
So where is this status blog with the reasoning? I dont seem to see it.
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Renee Faulds
Rises Out Of The Ashes
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10-03-2008 20:48
So where is this status blog with the reasoning? I dont seem to see it. Thanks Pro Quo for Linden Lab - SILENCE - DISINFORMATION - THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE WHILE WE TOTALLY IGNORE THE PEOPLE THAT PAY OUR BILLS Watch for the roll of 1.24.9 ON Saturday !!!! P.S. Prospero - You can still claim you have never rolled back a 1.24 Vs. cause you did happen to make this one 1.24.8* * See Disinformation |