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Osprey Therian

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11-29-2007 21:49

With the new one today:

http://media.putfile.com/Snapshot-Glitches---in-WL-1185-74642

Anyone else have this?

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Galen McGinnis

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11-29-2007 22:13

In reply to my own post, now I'm talking to myself, thats not a first, I know.

The red flash can be stopped by turning off the "property lines" option under view, and replicated by turning it back on. At least for me.

Haravikk Mistral

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11-30-2007 01:28

I'm finding myself crashing when trying to do a movie to disk from within the firstlook viewer, which I was trying to do to demonstrate another bug. Anyone else experiencing this?

The issue I was trying to capture a movie for is the "Local lights flickering a lot" JIRA issue, I'll try again, but may have to use an external capture app:
http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-3248

Appreciate it if anyone else with the same flickering issue can beat me to capturing a movie, I don't have a lot of time to do this lately!

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Kitty Barnett

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11-30-2007 02:03

From: DoteDote Edison

I've also noticed that avatar animations skip frames when viewed from a distance (the framerate of the animation decreases). So, if someone has a fancy dance animation that looks great close-up, it turns into stop-action motion around 10-20m viewing distance.

Doing the "robot dance" is actually a feature, not a bug

.

If you turn off Avatar Imposters, things should look normal again. With imposters turned on, the viewer will render an avie onto a low resolution 2D image every few frames and render that instead of the full 3D mesh. Also, if you look at the edges of avatar imposters, they'll be heavily pixelated.

Kitty Barnett

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11-30-2007 02:30

Looks like I no longer get the "Windlight sparkly, reflecting water" now. Great job, LL, it was the one thing that made the FPS loss in WL actually tolerable

.

Debbie Trilling

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Join date: 17 Oct 2006

Posts: 434

11-30-2007 02:54

From: freebirth Boccara

ok i looked through and havn't found anyone with this issue.

its hard to explain, but ill try. its like random points of textures are moving from there respective objects and to the "camera" and by that i mean to where the camera would be if i moved to 1st person. its very hard to explain what it looks like. its like a bunch of 2d triangles, goign from a bunch of objects. tot eh camera.

If I'm understanding this correctly (and I may not be) ...do you mean like described here?:

/111/a9/215994/1.html

If so, the problem is not Windlight & the remedy is given on the same thread

Monalisa Robbiani

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Join date: 9 Jul 2007

Posts: 861

11-30-2007 03:02

My first impression is that everything is overexposed!! Like a very bad photograph. My skin is almost white!

The shading difference between prims and skin is bigger than in the old viewer. My prim attachments don't blend very will with my skin anymore and look a lot "primmier" than before. It's like having pieces of rubber glued to your body. Nice water and all, but this looks like the end for furry avatars.

WiLLuMPJuH Gausman

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Join date: 16 Oct 2007

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11-30-2007 03:29

/me would like to take this thread as an opportunity to point to JIRA issue VWR-3531 . Pls support with votes if you want. Thnx for your attention.

Update : Downgrading NVidia-driver for linux to 100.14.19 sufficed. Issue is resolved.

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Kitty Barnett

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11-30-2007 04:37

From: Kitty Barnett

Looks like I no longer get the "Windlight sparkly, reflecting water" now. Great job, LL, it was the one thing that made the FPS loss in WL actually tolerable

.

http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-3272 fixed it for me (the class of my card apparantly got downgraded from 1 to 0, removing even "ripple water" support.

I'm a happy kitty again, if with a demoted from mid to low-end video card

.

Paulo Dielli

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Join date: 19 Jan 2007

Posts: 780

11-30-2007 05:09

From: Monalisa Robbiani

My first impression is that everything is overexposed!! Like a very bad photograph.

Yep, not only avatars, but also too much contrast on textures. The difference between sun-lit and non-sun-lit objects/textures is far too big.

Moy Loon

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Join date: 29 May 2007

Posts: 6

11-30-2007 06:33

Odd skybox errors, random hex-shaped black areas randomly appear when moving when in the linux client of 'Second Life 1.18.5 (74642) Nov 28 2007 16:51:36 (Second Life WindLight)'

http://www.moyloon.com/SL_skybox_error.png

other then that little bug, it runs amazing, everything else i've seen before acts as normal..

Kristopher Tenk

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Posts: 153

11-30-2007 08:16

After changing settings and then logging off the whole screen turns yellow, if I wait for 10 seconds i can see my desktop again.

This is only happening with the new WL viewer, never did this with the old viewer.

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Monalisa Robbiani

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11-30-2007 19:32

From: Paulo Dielli

Yep, not only avatars, but also too much contrast on textures. The difference between sun-lit and non-sun-lit objects/textures is far too big.

The picture lacks dynamic range and is overexposed all over. It looks like a photograph taken with a very cheap digital camera. To be honest, I was completely disappointed about windlight. Yesterday I went to the meeting with Torley and he said all those issues will be addressed. It's not even alpha, so I heard, but it looks extremely promising.

Katiroth Paravane

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Join date: 21 Nov 2006

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11-30-2007 22:07

From: Kristopher Tenk

After changing settings and then logging off the whole screen turns yellow, if I wait for 10 seconds i can see my desktop again.

This is only happening with the new WL viewer, never did this with the old viewer.

HP Pavilion dv6238ea Notebook PC | Ubuntu 7.10
2 Gb RAM | 120Gb HD | Nvidia Go 7400 256MB | Intel® Core™ Duo CPU T2250 @ 1.73GHz

I'm getting the same thing, but also when I take pictures. Highly annoying, and my main bug.

Fa nyak

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Posts: 342

11-30-2007 22:24

argh, am ithe only one who'se getting what appears to be a memory leak in object-object occlusion? with it turned on, my memory footprint slowly raises until filling up my ram and crashing after about 20 minutes. soon as i disable it in debug, the growth stops, then comes back then re-enabled. this has happened in the latest two versions of windlight. i've had to leave occlusion disabled ever since just so i can stay logged in v.v

my jira issue on this
http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-3522

Kristopher Tenk

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Posts: 153

12-01-2007 03:31

Hi Katiroth Paravane glad i am not the only one getting this.

Fluf Fredriksson

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12-01-2007 07:11

If you try...

http://jira.secondlife.com/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&&type=1&type=4&query=windlight&summary=true&description=true&status=1&status=3&status=4

You should get the current list of open WindLight issues. 131 at the moment. If you can be bothered to find the ones that concern you, please vote and comment on the JIRA.

WindLight Firstlook _ what are your bugs so far?
Osprey Therian I want capslocklock Join date: 6 Jul 2004 Posts: 5,049	11-29-2007 21:49 With the new one today: http://media.putfile.com/Snapshot-Glitches---in-WL-1185-74642 Anyone else have this? _____________________ http:www.atomic-raygun.com Combat Cards in Europa [url=http://slurl.com/secondlife/grignano/118/116/]The Photography Studio in Grignano[/url] Mud! Mud! Glorious mud! Nothing quite like it for cooling the blood. So, follow me, follow, down to the hollow, And there let us wallow in glorious mud. Flanders and Swan
Galen McGinnis Registered User Join date: 25 Sep 2007 Posts: 21	11-29-2007 22:13 In reply to my own post, now I'm talking to myself, thats not a first, I know. The red flash can be stopped by turning off the "property lines" option under view, and replicated by turning it back on. At least for me.
Haravikk Mistral Registered User Join date: 8 Oct 2005 Posts: 2,482	11-30-2007 01:28 I'm finding myself crashing when trying to do a movie to disk from within the firstlook viewer, which I was trying to do to demonstrate another bug. Anyone else experiencing this? The issue I was trying to capture a movie for is the "Local lights flickering a lot" JIRA issue, I'll try again, but may have to use an external capture app: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-3248 Appreciate it if anyone else with the same flickering issue can beat me to capturing a movie, I don't have a lot of time to do this lately! _____________________ Computer (Mac Pro): 2 x Quad Core 3.2ghz Xeon 10gb DDR2 800mhz FB-DIMMS 4 x 750gb, 32mb cache hard-drives (RAID-0/striped) NVidia GeForce 8800GT (512mb)
Kitty Barnett Registered User Join date: 10 May 2006 Posts: 5,586	11-30-2007 02:03 From: DoteDote Edison I've also noticed that avatar animations skip frames when viewed from a distance (the framerate of the animation decreases). So, if someone has a fancy dance animation that looks great close-up, it turns into stop-action motion around 10-20m viewing distance. Doing the "robot dance" is actually a feature, not a bug . If you turn off Avatar Imposters, things should look normal again. With imposters turned on, the viewer will render an avie onto a low resolution 2D image every few frames and render that instead of the full 3D mesh. Also, if you look at the edges of avatar imposters, they'll be heavily pixelated.
Kitty Barnett Registered User Join date: 10 May 2006 Posts: 5,586	11-30-2007 02:30 Looks like I no longer get the "Windlight sparkly, reflecting water" now. Great job, LL, it was the one thing that made the FPS loss in WL actually tolerable .
Debbie Trilling Our Lady of Peenemünde Join date: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 434	11-30-2007 02:54 From: freebirth Boccara ok i looked through and havn't found anyone with this issue. its hard to explain, but ill try. its like random points of textures are moving from there respective objects and to the "camera" and by that i mean to where the camera would be if i moved to 1st person. its very hard to explain what it looks like. its like a bunch of 2d triangles, goign from a bunch of objects. tot eh camera. If I'm understanding this correctly (and I may not be) ...do you mean like described here?: /111/a9/215994/1.html If so, the problem is not Windlight & the remedy is given on the same thread
Monalisa Robbiani Registered User Join date: 9 Jul 2007 Posts: 861	11-30-2007 03:02 My first impression is that everything is overexposed!! Like a very bad photograph. My skin is almost white! The shading difference between prims and skin is bigger than in the old viewer. My prim attachments don't blend very will with my skin anymore and look a lot "primmier" than before. It's like having pieces of rubber glued to your body. Nice water and all, but this looks like the end for furry avatars.
WiLLuMPJuH Gausman Debianishly Dorkish ;P Join date: 16 Oct 2007 Posts: 69	11-30-2007 03:29 /me would like to take this thread as an opportunity to point to JIRA issue VWR-3531 . Pls support with votes if you want. Thnx for your attention. Update : Downgrading NVidia-driver for linux to 100.14.19 sufficed. Issue is resolved. _____________________ '//iLLuMPJuH Gausman
Kitty Barnett Registered User Join date: 10 May 2006 Posts: 5,586	11-30-2007 04:37 From: Kitty Barnett Looks like I no longer get the "Windlight sparkly, reflecting water" now. Great job, LL, it was the one thing that made the FPS loss in WL actually tolerable . http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-3272 fixed it for me (the class of my card apparantly got downgraded from 1 to 0, removing even "ripple water" support. I'm a happy kitty again, if with a demoted from mid to low-end video card .
Paulo Dielli Symfurny Furniture Join date: 19 Jan 2007 Posts: 780	11-30-2007 05:09 From: Monalisa Robbiani My first impression is that everything is overexposed!! Like a very bad photograph. Yep, not only avatars, but also too much contrast on textures. The difference between sun-lit and non-sun-lit objects/textures is far too big.
Moy Loon eeeeaaaaaaaah!!! <:0 Join date: 29 May 2007 Posts: 6	11-30-2007 06:33 Odd skybox errors, random hex-shaped black areas randomly appear when moving when in the linux client of 'Second Life 1.18.5 (74642) Nov 28 2007 16:51:36 (Second Life WindLight)' http://www.moyloon.com/SL_skybox_error.png other then that little bug, it runs amazing, everything else i've seen before acts as normal..
Kristopher Tenk Registered User Join date: 11 Apr 2007 Posts: 153	11-30-2007 08:16 After changing settings and then logging off the whole screen turns yellow, if I wait for 10 seconds i can see my desktop again. This is only happening with the new WL viewer, never did this with the old viewer. HP Pavilion dv6238ea Notebook PC \| Ubuntu 7.10 2 Gb RAM \| 120Gb HD \| Nvidia Go 7400 256MB \| Intel® Core™ Duo CPU T2250 @ 1.73GHz
Monalisa Robbiani Registered User Join date: 9 Jul 2007 Posts: 861	11-30-2007 19:32 From: Paulo Dielli Yep, not only avatars, but also too much contrast on textures. The difference between sun-lit and non-sun-lit objects/textures is far too big. The picture lacks dynamic range and is overexposed all over. It looks like a photograph taken with a very cheap digital camera. To be honest, I was completely disappointed about windlight. Yesterday I went to the meeting with Torley and he said all those issues will be addressed. It's not even alpha, so I heard, but it looks extremely promising.
Katiroth Paravane Rawr. Join date: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 10	11-30-2007 22:07 From: Kristopher Tenk After changing settings and then logging off the whole screen turns yellow, if I wait for 10 seconds i can see my desktop again. This is only happening with the new WL viewer, never did this with the old viewer. HP Pavilion dv6238ea Notebook PC \| Ubuntu 7.10 2 Gb RAM \| 120Gb HD \| Nvidia Go 7400 256MB \| Intel® Core™ Duo CPU T2250 @ 1.73GHz I'm getting the same thing, but also when I take pictures. Highly annoying, and my main bug.
Fa nyak >(O.o)< Join date: 8 Oct 2004 Posts: 342	11-30-2007 22:24 argh, am ithe only one who'se getting what appears to be a memory leak in object-object occlusion? with it turned on, my memory footprint slowly raises until filling up my ram and crashing after about 20 minutes. soon as i disable it in debug, the growth stops, then comes back then re-enabled. this has happened in the latest two versions of windlight. i've had to leave occlusion disabled ever since just so i can stay logged in v.v my jira issue on this http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-3522
Kristopher Tenk Registered User Join date: 11 Apr 2007 Posts: 153	12-01-2007 03:31 Hi Katiroth Paravane glad i am not the only one getting this.
Fluf Fredriksson Registered User Join date: 8 Feb 2007 Posts: 248	12-01-2007 07:11 If you try... http://jira.secondlife.com/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&&type=1&type=4&query=windlight&summary=true&description=true&status=1&status=3&status=4 You should get the current list of open WindLight issues. 131 at the moment. If you can be bothered to find the ones that concern you, please vote and comment on the JIRA.

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