Any ideas on how to get a neighbor to move?
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Morwen Bunin
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09-10-2007 23:57
From: Wulfric Chevalier Why is nobody posting the obvious answer? The only way to make sure your neighbour moves, is to buy her out.
That is the obvious answer? One has to come with whole lot of money (and when I say a whole lot, I mean a whole lot) to buy my land. Not everything out there is to get for easy money. To the OP: Maybe you can do something with screens? I saw not long ago a 40 x 40 meter screen: one side transparant, the other side a nice landscape. Myself have done some things with smaller fences and hedges. Morwen.
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Bradley Bracken
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09-11-2007 00:04
I just checked it out and the thing I don't get is the shops and the castle with the dungeons are all on the top of this monstrosity. There's a few rooms below but most of it is complete empty space and wasted prims.
It's odd to me that some people seem to go out of their way to create something so ugly, just because they can. It reminds me of the early days of the net when there were so many sights with annoying and bad animations just so the web designer could feel like they created something.
JessyAnne, it looks to me like you could do some things with along the edge of your land to block it out. Wouldnt be great but better. You'd have to move your houses in from the edge though.
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Raymond Figtree
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09-11-2007 00:06
From: Bradley Bracken I just checked it out and the thing I don't get is the shops and the castle with the dungeons are all on the top of this monstrosity. There's a few rooms below but most of it is complete empty space and wasted prims.
It's odd to me that some people seem to go out of their way to create something so ugly, just because they can. It reminds me of the early days of the net when there were so many sights with annoying and bad animations just so the web designer could feel like they created something. It reminds me of the city you and I live in.
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Calveen Kline
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09-11-2007 00:16
Why hasn't anyone recommended ARing the offender? This is something I would consider a nuisance. In this cases, the Lindens will remove the offending mega prims. She may later replace them with regular prims, but it will cost her dearly to replace those super mega prims.
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Cortex Draper
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09-11-2007 00:27
You can AR any megaprim that annoys you. they are only allowed in cases they don't cause a nuisance. Apart from that, dont get involved in a war. SL is for leisure, not stress.
Either build huge phantom walls with tree textures on your side and completely clear on your neighboors side (the purpose of walls isnt to annoy your neighboor, it is to stop you seeing them) If you use the shiny setting in graphics options, you can also make walls that look like the sky, by putting shiny on a white prim and it will reflect the blue of the sky. I have seen that used to great effect to block advert signs with what almost looks like the sky.
Or build a sky platform the entire size of your land, maybe give it a nice grass texture, and move up there.
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Arden Logan
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09-11-2007 00:38
It's really sad when you have to put up textured walls that are just as ugly as what you are trying to hide. But I guess if you must look at crap, it should be your own atleast I guess. To the OP: I went and visited the gigantic build your neighbor has made and it appears they own almost half the sim. It may be time to consider moving. If it doesn't bug you that much then I would just say to wait them out. With any luck they will decide that perhaps a private island would be more appropriate for their uses. Wishful thinking I know, but it doesn't hurt. 
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Wulfric Chevalier
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09-11-2007 00:48
From: Morwen Bunin That is the obvious answer? One has to come with whole lot of money (and when I say a whole lot, I mean a whole lot) to buy my land. Not everything out there is to get for easy money.
Morwen. The OP asked how to get a neighbour to move, the responses either involve trying to hide the ugly build, the OP moving herself, or annoying the neighbour into moving. The only way of getting the nighbour to move that doesn't involve making their life difficult is to buy the land. Some of the suggestions on here would probably expose the OP to an AR if she followed them (not yours naturally). Whether the OP feels the annoyance is worth buying the land is up to her, I doubt if I would when it is so much easier and cheaper to move myself, but offering her so much money she is happy to go away is, to my mind, the obvious answer to the question.
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Morwen Bunin
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09-11-2007 01:09
I disagree... but that is my opinion.
Morwen.
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Morwen Bunin
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09-11-2007 01:11
From: Arden Logan It's really sad when you have to put up textured walls that are just as ugly as what you are trying to hide. I have seen some very nice landscapes that were far nices as what was behind it  . As this one... add some birds sounds to it and it is great (thing is to find the good texture and adept the surroundings to it). http://www.xs4all.nl/~morwen65/Images/Second%20Life/Wall.jpgMorwen.
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Arden Logan
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09-11-2007 01:56
It's nice but I prefer seeing the sky, horizon and open spaces. 
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Morwen Bunin
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09-11-2007 02:00
From: Arden Logan It's nice but I prefer seeing the sky, horizon and open spaces.  Depends.... what the sky, horizon and those open spaces are showing  . Morwen.
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2k Suisei
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09-11-2007 02:04
Imagine living in this neighborhood when this thing went up.  No wonder it's deserted.
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Chas Connolly
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09-11-2007 02:06
From: Morwen Bunin Depends.... what the sky, horizon and those open spaces are showing  . Morwen. Yep, I moved 500 metres up to escape the odd collection of structures on the ground. Now it´s more crowded up in the sky. And people seem to feel they can put anything, and I mean anything, up in the sky. Have to keep view limited to about 10 metres to escape it
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Arden Logan
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09-11-2007 02:11
From: Morwen Bunin Depends.... what the sky, horizon and those open spaces are showing  . Morwen. Very true. Maybe the upcoming windlight will atleast make ad farms appear prettier. 
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Sally Silvera
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09-11-2007 02:20
Wow that's really nice! As to the OP..... that looks awful! I would personally definitely try an AR. While megaprims are 'tolerated', Andrew Linden suggested in a thread in the building tips forum that there are instances in which the Lindens will act against them. Also, apparently, megaprims have a greater actual size then their visible size, because they are tortured prims, so they may actually overhang onto your parcel if the structure is close to the border, even if they don't seem to. Otherwise my two-pies worth: I agree that these things seem to come and go pretty quickly, so they might be gone before you know it (I know..... just being optimistic) . I somehow don't like the suggestion that the OP should move. This would imply that those who throw huge ugly boxes around could pretty much take over the mainland altogether. Not a pretty thought in MHO. As for moving to the sky........ we live in the sky, because ground level was bad. These days, the sky is actually worse than the ground.  Edit: just had a look, seems the structure is very very close to the border. If that theory about megaprims is true, you might get lucky with the AR route. Nice houses btw!
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Cherry Czervik
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09-11-2007 04:00
From: Isablan Neva Nothing you can do but wait it out. I've lived next to some fearful ugly builds, they all went away in time. Besides, the apocalypse of age verification is upon us and her business model will be changing in the near future. Smart "adult" content business owners will want to group together to take advantage of an *ahem* captive audience of those who have age verified. *AMEN*!!!!
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Morwen Bunin
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09-11-2007 04:09
But there also very nice people...
Next to my land is a plot that is not really used. No auto-return and able to created things. So one can imagine what kind of mess it was there. For the longest time I just ignored it. But on a certain moment I decided to send the owner a polite and nice IM.
Some days after I did send the IM, auto-return was activated and plot is now clean... and *coughs* a item I have been looking for since a very long time was returned to me ^_^.
Morwen.
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Trella McMahon
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I have a couple of really nice ones but one,,
09-11-2007 05:22
I use to allow all that until a neighbor moved in and I took a RL friend who had just joined over to show her my place, which I had spent weeks on. My new neighbor due to me leaving things open for everyone to enjoy dumped sand all in my house and rearranged my landscape. Now I have deleted everything and find myself starting over for being kind. Changed all the settings in hopes now once done it will remain the same. I had few to no neighbors when I bought but since they have moved in they are removing more and more skyline and view, it's most discouraging... Then we have sl issues, seems the neighbors can build most anything but we spend days rezzing one object, it use to not be that way when I moved there. Then I am having a prime issue, of primes not being accounted for use on an now empty sim allowing more then 100 there are 60 only available, and I have checked all my sims they are all below their prime use, and even though I have deleted more items from each, nothing has changing. We even had the phone company come in trace the lines, check the pc and sit down to play the game going in world, it's not issues on our end was the conclusion it's sl. Oh and on another sim my friend, she had just joined were changing cloths in just walks some guy turns on the tv and begins watching xxx movies on my tv, in my house on my couch, and further I/we had no idea who he was. My friend went to walk out the house door and he even had the nerve to complain about her walking in front of the tv leaving our house. Needless to say after we left I reset that sim as well,, sigh. You just can't be nice sometimes no matter how hard you try. So thus we further live and learn even in sl 
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Soen Eber
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09-11-2007 06:06
It is just a pretty sim, too, a lot of people have put hard work into making it nice, and now this ugly, ungramatical thing pops up.
I think I may be spending a lazy weekend soon making pleasant IM's to shop owners there, showing them pictures of what this place looks like from below...
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Trella McMahon
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haha, it may work,, and a great idea.
09-11-2007 06:19
I have been taking pictures of RL companies ads in/on ad farms and then sending them to them in RL, emailing and further asking them,, Is this what you are advertising the world to look like??, I further boycott their products and then list them on my RL site, with 1000 hits + monthly, as well through egroups. I have bought a few sims from the cheaper ad farms to clear them and plant trees or flowers too  Very Best Wishes in your fight for the SL views to return, many of us are with you in spirit and heart!
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Michael Bigwig
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09-11-2007 06:20
Pay them handsomely. Or, move YOUR setup to the skies.
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09-11-2007 06:21
From: 2k Suisei Imagine living in this neighborhood when this thing went up.  No wonder it's deserted. I got a real chuckle out of this. Thanks for the laugh.
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Brenda Connolly
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09-11-2007 06:30
From: 2k Suisei Imagine living in this neighborhood when this thing went up.  No wonder it's deserted. At least they match......
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Qie Niangao
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09-11-2007 06:31
Took a little site tour and now I see what Bradley was saying about the structure: The megaprim base is just a bunch of ginormous solid cubes--no interior space at all. At first I guessed that the builder didn't grok the concept of dimpling the megaprims to make them more manageable--but there are useless megacubes scattered around at ground level too, as if to make sure that every square meter of the parcel has some kind of prim covering it--so I'd guess the owner is very intentionally thumbing her nose at the rest of the sim.
I don't think anything can be done to make her want to move, and I suspect that the more one tries, the more resolute she'll be in staying. Ordinarily the half-life of this kind of business is about 3 months, but I fear she'll just keep operating it at a loss, out of spite. And in fact there are other enterprises in the vicinity that will be needing age verification, so they could end up with some synergies in a common customer base.
This might be a good time to buy a different spot, as others suggest, but unless increased tier is an option, you'd also be selling the current parcel into a buyer's market right now.
If like-minded neighbors had interest, it might be easiest to just move everything to a huge sky platform, ceding the ground level to the various bondage, Gor, and D/s establishments in the vicinity.
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Raymond Figtree
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09-11-2007 07:52
Looks like there will never be mainland zoning beyond the occasional removal of pron on PG sims and slot machines. So really, it comes down to buying a large mainland region or going the estate route. Or, in rare cases like on my old home sim of Carlisle, you luck out and your neighbors have decent taste too.
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