What is the deal with the ad parcels?

There's another saying too....... if you want to make lots of money easily rip off or extort it out of someone...........

nail on the head.

too many whingers who are never happy

Well for extortion to work, you have to give in to it. Maybe I am just a stubborn ass, but I never do.

That's not a maybe, Chris.

Mandy C

*Channels Homer*

Ohhhh...I wanted to say that.

*huggles Brenda* There, there.....feel better now?

Mandy C

Yes, people who buy products advertised in ad-plots are supporting the continued existence of the blight.
People who advertise via ad-plots are actively supporting the blight. It might be more effective to target the advertisers than the buyers.
Don't buy. IM the advertisers and inform them that you won't buy and that you will advise others not to buy.

Block the ads as far as you can. Help others to block ads in as tasteful a manner as possible. Maybe some SL artists could help with this.
Tell the advertisers in blocked ads that you are blocking the ad-plot that advertised their product.

Join the Arbor project and ban ad-cutters from your land. Get people in plots surrounding ad-plots to do the same.

Try to get popular venues to ban ad-cutters.

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Start a version of the Arbor project that bans people who advertise via the ad-plots !!!!!
They are just as despicable as the ad-farmers.
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Ad-plots are not contrary to the TOS. So what? Get the TOS changed. LL bang on about "the Community". - But don't hold your breath waiting for LL.

Yall know you love me.

About 50% of the ads on most ad farms are 'for sale' signs relating to the 16m ad plot beneath! Ad plots are annoying if they are next to your home - I have some next to mine - but I also have several 64m plots on ad farms to sell my goods. Some of these mini shops are on plots reclaimed from 4 x 16m ad plots.

Ad plots will be self-limiting as soon as people realise the market is saturated. But one of the main functions they serve is visual griefing to get neighbours to buy the plots. And the visual griefing used by the anti ad farm brigade is just as bad - giant tree screens or big pine trees lying on their side.

One thing I couldn't figure out was what I saw yesterday. I was looking at one ad farm with a view to reclaiming 64m as a shop, but the whole farm was covered by a big green box. Clicking on the plots by swinging the camera inside the box, showed that there were no objects on the parcels, yet I could stand on this box and highlight the prims it was made from. How was this done?

It's difficult to get something worse than the ads themselves. I have seen a few brave attempts at it though.
People who care enough to invest the time should help others to build creative ad-blocking structures. There's a need for an organised project to do this.

Big trees? Conifer trees?

lol none of your above strategies have any effect....


if you block ads, they are made bigger and higher

you can still buy and chop adspace if you are banned (often banned land is chpped in retaliation)

poeple who advertise on adplots get realy good deals and so banning the advertisrs makes no difference to them and you cant ban them from there own place of business so they realy wouldnt care, plus they get most of there business from noobs who dont know much about the search function yet and the only way they find stuff of interest is through adplot advertising.

and there are always alts.

Thankyou for typing this sentence. It must have been very difficult for you.

Wise words.

Here is an additional suggestion. Most of these ad farms seem to advertise offworld websites, sugar DVD's and Riverbelle online casino for example.
The hyperlink to these sites has an affiliate code in it. If you e-mail these websites with that affiliate code and complain they do take notice. Even adult and gambling websites don't want spammers if that generates a volume of complaints, its just not worth the hassle. And, a cynic might say, they'd love an excuse not to pay an affiliate.

These ad plots don't seem to attract much in the way of advertising from SL itself, as, logically you wouldn't make back the cost in increased traffic, something numerous blogs testify to. So, cutting off the offworld source of income would leave the ad plots high and dry.

Yes indeed!
So build the ad-blockers as big and as high as they need to be.
In general, people in adjoining plots will have more prims to use than will the ad-farmer. A big ad-farm will be able to use more prims only by sacrificing prims from plots in the sim.

The point of banning advertisers is to give them a constant reminder that their peers regard their activity in supporting ad-farmers as parasitic and disrespectful.
Various actions won't stop ad-farmers in their tracks. They just make life a little more difficult for them. If a 'respectable' merchant who advertises via ad farms has to use an alt to get to somewhere nice in SL, that would be wonderful.


At the end of the day, doing something organised and *visible* against ad-farms and their advertisers may gather hearts and minds that have a unified voice. In time it may be possible that LL will have to accept that ad-farms are near-universally offensive.

lol yeh keep dreaming

Our World, Our Imagination

"Our" here includes Stylee. We're all in it together.
However, that doesn't mean that we have to accept parasitic behaviour. I'm sure Stylee is a real sweetie when he's not defending ad-farms.
LL adopt a hands off approach, so it's up to "the community" to organise a hand on approach itself if it cares to.

Until recently I never realized that. Generally I just ignore the ads, but I started to note the advertisers to see if any place I frequent is doing this and noticed that as well.That puts a bit of a different Spin on things.

"I think that I shall never see a billboard lovely as a tree. Perhaps, unless the billboards fall, I'll never see a tree at all."

I agree with Ogden Nash...

Imogen

i bought a nice texture pack, and made a giant prim wall on 2 sides of the ad farm by my place.

the neighbors behind me have a giant wall, and the sim next door has one. in essence, it is surrounded on all 4 sides by TALL walls. lovely walls. you can't even see the stuff inside unless you hit the right angle or fly in.

basically, if you can get IN to the ad farm, you can see out as if no walls existed. but you can't see IN.

last night, i found a freebie GIANT 3-prim tree. i can't remember where, i'm sorry. it's as tall as my wall, and seems like it would cover a great area, while remaining relatively flat and not using up too much of your land space. i don't have a place to store it on my land to give away, so if you want one, IM me and i'll give you a copy.

Those four-word responses demonstrating your inability to spell the word "yeah" really cut through those logical, coherent arguments pitted against you.
I await your future grunts with anticipation.

And that's with the stretch of considering "lol" a word......

For my own part, I have no huge problem with people's spelling or grammar.
A poet can misspell, use slang or invent words.
A villain can produce impeccable prose.

What matters is what people are trying to say, and not how they say it.

*Gets off the pulpit*

How would that retaliate against the person who sold the land? They are presumably moving OUT of the neighborhood?

This is an interesting quandry...

As a landowner of roadside land in Drax, a sim on one of the newer continents, I have found that this is a major, major problem, especially along parcels that are smaller than 512, but deemed by their owners as not being small enough to join with a larger piece of land.

A couple of weeks ago, I too attempted to block ads in the manners suggested here - build walls, put up trees on my own land. No prims I placed ever overstepped his land. So sure - things escalated. The owner of that land:

1) lofted his ads higher, higher, ever higher in the air, also expanding them in size so that they bled through on to my land
2) Added hover text that could be seen from my land even at moderate distance
3) Threatened to place automatic notecard and landmark spammers on his land, as well as an automatic object shouter.
4) Then called in a member of one of his groups (or perhaps an alt? I don't know) to grief my land with giant prims and cage my neighbors.

- Yes, I did file ARs, and so did my neighbors.
- Preventative measures have since been placed insofar as banning of the griefers as well as asking neighbors to turn off public building on their properties.
- I have added to my particular build in order to block much of what can be seen from ground level

Problems between myself and this particular group have abated, but the adfarms don't go away. Even if we don't necessarily see them right away - they are still there - and a product of greed and lax regulations.

I really have to wonder just what is to be gained by having a mainland full of adfarms. Is LL necessarily benefited by the profuse numbers of 'accounted for' (IE: owned) land that these adfarms take up? Surely these monstrosities are a detriment to any sense of community Residents might attempt to form? Let alone the economy within SL itself?
If this gross misuse of server resources is to continue, I am fairly sure much of the mainland will become a ghost town, home to camping chair zombies and for sale signs.

Does LL really need the grief of managing thousands of regions when no one is really there anymore to enjoy them?