Ready for a fight?

You can sell something copy/no transfer, and you can ALSO sell it transfer/no copy (make modify whichever way you want) at the very same time. Or you can sell something copy AND transfer, if you are prepared to kiss any future profit goodbye because some sonuvabitch will underprice you on it and it will eventually become a freebie. I offered a building product in both modes; I have sold some copy/modify - and have sold zero transfer/modify. Your mileage may vary.

Bottom line, the person who managed to bring a product you want to sale in SL has the right to determine the terms of sale to you. If you don't like the terms, you have the right to refuse, or to make a counter-offer. You don't have the right to demand he make a sacrifice of his self-interest and take what he considers a hit to him after he has brought it to market for your consideration. The consumer is King, all right, but these days there are limits to the powers of monarchy.

Hey, like someone else said, Different strokes for different folks.

This is the best idea i heard all day.
It would be nice if we could still modify clothes without copy permissions. Since you can't drop clothes on the ground theres almost no way to lose them. If designers are worried about texture theft, there are many other ways to get it, if someone was really that eager to. Everything that i sell, i know it can easily be stolen, but i still sell it anyway because people like my stuff.

As a merchant its a bit dishearting to read "Ready for a fight <angry face>". Believe it or not there are many merchants out there who are ready to, not fight with you, but to help you.

If you need different perms on a clothing item try sending a messege to the merchant. I know of several merchants who, in their shops, even have a sign that says to im them if you need different permissions set.

Heres the deal- because we`re not going to give full perm items away, we have to choose either Trans/No Copy or Copy/no transfer. If you search the forums you will see a large group of people prefer trans/no copy, while the other large group of people prefer copy/no trans. Ultimately it is up to the creator.

Youre not going to beable to start a riot to have something changed. Just send a simple message and ask if the designer can work something out with you, or buy from a shop who sells with the permissions you prefer.

Also please know that something copyable here does not mean it is of more worth, but under your mindset of that i can see where you are coming from.

Dearly Darlings,

I too like Mod/Copy/No Trans. I absolutley hate buying expensive clothes only to have a nipple hanging out, panties showing, or something along those lines. I'm old and I lose things too, so being able to copy and tweek things around and put them in idiot folders I find very handy.

When I find gifts for people I ALWAYS contact the vendor before the purchase and tell them what I want. I've only had two people say no. I don't shop at those stores anymore.

Ever Yours,

Mrs Showdog Tiger

horse is dead - mod/copy/no trans serves certain purposes but not others. mod/nocopy/trans also serves certain purposes but not others (like, for houses and other custom-built one-off items)
nomod also serves certain purposes, but not others! There is no one-size-fits all answer here.

Personally, I don't mind nocopy clothes - if a nipple is hanging out or (in the case of one suit set I bought) the pin stripes are horrendous and don't match, hell yeah, i'd like the ability to give it away/sell it to someone who will tolerate it/has a more suitable shape/skin to wear it!

It's all preference. No one is forcing you to make copy clothes transferable, or vice versa.

See this here is a good idea but also fixing the asset servers so they dont loose stuff would also be good as well that way we aren't limited so much

Problem is that as like has been said this horse died long ago and not one size fits all and honestly its very hard to accomodate a lot of stuff now with problems with the sculpty texture being so easily copied even with a transparent layer I"m told their is a simple simple way to deal with that the only option is actualy to make sculpties no modify by default.

So there are a million and one issues all of which actually can't be solved by the way the system works so that everyone is happy.

I actually also stopped making items that required no adjustment no modify mainly because I found things like jackets I would sell with a lower layer to it and a guy being new would tell me something is wrong with it and its missing its second half (that was a modfy transfer no copy jacket) so i couldn't win there he tried to play with the jacket and lost the bottom half so i took that option away in some cases.

Anyhow after doing just about any possible combinatino and permutation available to me without using "full permissions" like many I settles on a means to satisfy as most of the problems that I could.

There is no good solution but I would say though that since transfer no copy stuff is loosable with amazing regularity (see present power outage..) they in fact should be cheaper if we must put a price tag on permissions which I dont think is appropriate but considering how many people are going to be loosing inventory in the next few days ^^ its getting mighty expensive to buy transfer no copy items of any sort