What can I do about this? I am getting really tired of it.
I was looking for a pose ball for sitting and had the mature unchecked. and it was PORN and very explicit pictures and words........how can this be reported???
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Aislinn Jewell
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03-30-2007 15:33
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Gaybot Foxley
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03-30-2007 15:36
Fill out a very detailed abuse report.
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Aislinn Jewell
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03-30-2007 15:46
a general report, or list off all the offenders? that will take awhile.............
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Gaybot Foxley
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03-30-2007 16:00
Depends on how much time you have on your hands I guess, lol. You could always call Fox news or write them a letter/email, but then again....they might turn SL into Walt Disney World.
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Zaphod Kotobide
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03-30-2007 16:43
Definately report abuse. Pornographic material is prohibited in any public facing content, regardless of rating (M or PG). This includes classified ads, parcel names/descriptions, profiles, group names/charters/role titles, etc.
To sum it up, the CS state that it must be contained within private land, in areas rated Mature (M). |
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DoteDote Edison
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03-30-2007 18:52
You'll have to report it as abuse. Some operators of Mature content might've switched their regions to PG in order to be listed under the default search setting (PG) - while continueing to display/advertise mature content. This would, of course, be against the TOS.
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AWM Mars
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03-31-2007 07:03
It is mainly due to the method in which SL search works, it uses both the Mature/PG flags and keywords. Search for a work such as wessex and you will always get porn related stuff over the internet. Until they include the function 'Use exact phrase' you will always get porn related stuff. The 'porn' industry in SL as in RL want you to get their content, so are very asstute in their methods.
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Beebo Brink
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03-31-2007 08:38
Search for a work such as wessex and you will always get porn related stuff over the internet. Umm, that's only a partial answer. A few weeks ago I needed a theatrical backdrop -- stage curtain, floorboards, etc -- so rather than build one, I hoped to find one that I could use for a test shot. So I did a search for "theater", with the mature box checked because that was the default. The results were filled to the brim with XXX ads displaying photos of nekkid ladies performing all sorts of "services" on nekkid guys. Most were RL photos, not just noobie avatars grimacing woodenly in excstasy. Okay, didn't need that cluttering up my search, so I ran it again with the mature box unchecked. Lost some results, but in the ones that remained the XXX classifieds were STILL very much in evidence. So either the search didn't properly exclude them or the people who made those ads did not rate their content mature. I kinda think I know the answer to that one. Which means the most effective way LL could segregate explicit content from searches would be *TO ENFORCE THE EXISTING RULES* rather than changing them. Without enforcement of the ratings, the "clean up" is simply a token gesture appeasing someone, but certainly not the residents. _____________________
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Aislinn Jewell
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04-02-2007 07:52
you know, quiet frankly..I'm getting tired of the way search is, especially when looking for PRODUCTS to buy.
I think it needs to be revamped! Its just NOT logical and helpful. When a person is looking for certain things, they have to weed through adds that have nothing to do with what they are seariching for, simply becuase the person who wrote the add filled it with every possilbe word they could. Whether they offered it or not. I think when listing into the SHOPPING Classified, search should have check boxes to list your add to fit into a certain catagory. Such as Malls, Furniture, Business/office Supply, Boats/Marine, Pets, Etc. Like how SL exchange has it narrowed down. You can check a few that best describes your services/business. And then you can narrow it down from there with more options to chose from. Its very fustrating to go shopping inworld........when you have something specific you are looking for...........and boy oh boy was it aweful trying to fine a fishing pole.....I had mens parts in the PG search cause of the word pole. I feel very sad that my rights are not being taken seriously. Linden made these rules, they need to enforce them. Is it true that the adds in search can not have explicit porn in them, even with the Mature off.........I think someone said that...??? _____________________
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Amity Slade
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04-02-2007 10:47
The thing that bugs me most about pornography turning up in non-mature searches is this:
This should not require thousands of residents writing abuse reports to stop. Any one worker for Linden Labs can easily run a normal search and pop all of these things up. There is nothing sneaky or complicit about the way in which pornographers advertise under PG listings. It's blatant, completely open violation of the ToS with the knowledge that Linden Labs doesn't really care about enforcing that part of the ToS. Any time that I run a search for anything in any category, I get a large number of results with pornography under PG listings. Does anyone working for Linden Labs ever use the search function? Unless no Linden has ever, since becoming a Linden, used the search function for anything, the Lindens know about widespread violations and just don't find correcting it to be a priority. By the way, whatever happened to the Linden policy banning public advertising of simulated sexual activity with minors? That topic hit the forums a couple of weeks ago as the beginning of the Second Life New World Order. A few honest persons may have complied with Linden Labs's request. Everyone who didn't comply with that intial request is still advertising in full force, because I still see it all the time, without any drop off at all. Whatever you might think of the policy is moot, because Linden Labs doesn't make enforcing it a priority. |
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Aislinn Jewell
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04-02-2007 11:23
By the way, whatever happened to the Linden policy banning public advertising of simulated sexual activity with minors? That topic hit the forums a couple of weeks ago as the beginning of the Second Life New World Order. A few honest persons may have complied with Linden Labs's request. Everyone who didn't comply with that intial request is still advertising in full force, because I still see it all the time, without any drop off at all. Whatever you might think of the policy is moot, because Linden Labs doesn't make enforcing it a priority. NOW That in my opinion requires immediete AR! I wish there was something we could do...form group that is designed to clean up SL???? By working together, we can find those that violate PG listings, contact them first, and if they don't comply, then AR them..... I'd be willing to be part of this group..... Obviously the Lindens are very busy and this is just not a priority to them. So its up to US to do something......how about it?? Anyone want to form a group??? I have a nice meeting/conference room to offer! And its something that I've been thinking about. Cleaning up the porn!!! Let me know!! Just one person does make a difference! _____________________
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Colette Meiji
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04-02-2007 11:31
Obviously the Lindens are very busy and this is just not a priority to them. So its up to US to do something......how about it?? Anyone want to form a group??? I have a nice meeting/conference room to offer! And its something that I've been thinking about. Cleaning up the porn!!! Let me know!! Just one person does make a difference! Porn in Mature land that does not advertize itself in a manner thats in violation - Is not against the TOS. A goal to clean up Legitimate porn that exists in Second Life is poking your nose in other people's business. Porn that shows up where it shouldnt - such as in searches - is a different story. |
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Meade Paravane
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04-02-2007 11:34
you know, quiet frankly..I'm getting tired of the way search is, especially when looking for PRODUCTS to buy. Feature vote to improve search. |
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Ceera Murakami
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04-02-2007 11:39
You know, if Adult content really bothers you that much, perhaps you should re-evaluate why you are voluntarily participating in an adults-only game/on-line world? If I want a G-rated entertainment, I'll go to Disney. SL is supposed to be an adults-only world. Complaining that you come here and you see adult content is rather like complaining at what you see when you voluntarily walk into a magazine and newspapaer store that also clearly includes a porno shop in one corner.
Perhaps those who really want nothing more from SL than a G-rated, family-friendly, work-safe environment should be able to buy private sims and form their own grid - like the Teen Grid is now, but open to all age ranges - and with adult content structly forbidden? Do it like the teen grid, where the underwear on your avatar is non-removable. Ban anyone who does anything that might possibly be considered unacceptable in front of a 10 year old. Just make your own safe little world where porn doesn't exist, and go there. SL isn't that sort of world, any more than the real world is. Nor is it ever likely to be "cleaned up" by any self-appointed group, without destroying it. If you want to AR anyone, start with the Lindens, for giving you the false impression that a checkbox on a search can possibly shield you from exposure to adult content in an adult game. It can't, any more than selecting the "Safe Search" option on a Google search can ensure you'll never see a naked piece of anatomy. _____________________
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Ann Launay
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04-02-2007 11:40
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Aislinn Jewell
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04-02-2007 12:00
You know, if Adult content really bothers you that much, perhaps you should re-evaluate why you are voluntarily participating in an adults-only game/on-line world? If I want a G-rated entertainment, I'll go to Disney. SL is supposed to be an adults-only world. Complaining that you come here and you see adult content is rather like complaining at what you see when you voluntarily walk into a magazine and newspapaer store that also clearly includes a porno shop in one corner. Perhaps those who really want nothing more from SL than a G-rated, family-friendly, work-safe environment should be able to buy private sims and form their own grid - like the Teen Grid is now, but open to all age ranges - and with adult content structly forbidden? Do it like the teen grid, where the underwear on your avatar is non-removable. Ban anyone who does anything that might possibly be considered unacceptable in front of a 10 year old. Just make your own safe little world where porn doesn't exist, and go there. SL isn't that sort of world, any more than the real world is. Nor is it ever likely to be "cleaned up" by any self-appointed group, without destroying it. If you want to AR anyone, start with the Lindens, for giving you the false impression that a checkbox on a search can possibly shield you from exposure to adult content in an adult game. It can't, any more than selecting the "Safe Search" option on a Google search can ensure you'll never see a naked piece of anatomy. This really saddended me to read this. I really love Second life. And would hate to see it all become porn. All I am asking is that those rules that are their to protect me...(mature checkbox) be honored. And if someone puts porn into the search as a PG add, be willing to take it out if I request them to. If not, then I have the option to AR.... To clarify, am I trying to come against Mature? That is your right to advertise the way the lindens inteneded. Just trying to clean up the PG search and keep it as it was intended for me. _____________________
Aislinn Jewell
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Colette Meiji
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04-02-2007 12:03
This really saddended me to read this. I really love Second life. And would hate to see it all become porn. All I am asking is that those rules that are their to protect me...(mature checkbox) be honored. And if someone puts porn into the search as a PG add, be willing to take it out if I request them to. If not, then I have the option to AR.... To clarify, am I trying to come against Mature? That is your right to advertise the way the lindens inteneded. Just trying to clean up the PG search and keep it as it was intended for me. Expecting people to follow the rules is reasonable. Even if the Lindens keep changing how they enforce them. |
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Beebo Brink
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04-02-2007 12:11
If I want a G-rated entertainment, I'll go to Disney. SL is supposed to be an adults-only world. Framing this issue as a prissy prude vs. adult non-prude stance is really unfair. It's quite possible to be comfortable in an adult world -- with cursing and nudity and even sexual activity -- without wanting to be hit in the face with extremely explicit and close-up depictions of RL people or SL avatars engaged in sex and describing it all in the most crude and vulgar language possible. Calling for some degree of restraint and segregation of the extremely explicit behavior is not of the same order of magnitude as getting all indignant at the sight of a female breast or hearing the word damn. Personally, I find the PG rating absurd. If you can't handle some mild cursing or the sight of some nude bodies frolicking in their pool, then you certainly are going to have a miserable time in just about any part of the internet, virtual or otherwise. Of the two "evils", I'd rather live with the XXX running rampant throughout SL rather than have it sanitized to the point of imbecility. But my preference, above all else, would be moderation and an avoidance of both extremes. _____________________
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Zaphod Kotobide
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04-02-2007 13:34
I am voluntarily participating in an adult only community. It being adult only does not mean I should have to put up with explicit, vulgar smut ads when I'm searching for a friggin chair.
You know, if Adult content really bothers you that much, perhaps you should re-evaluate why you are voluntarily participating in an adults-only game/on-line world? |
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Colette Meiji
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04-02-2007 14:02
I am voluntarily participating in an adult only community. It being adult only does not mean I should have to put up with explicit, vulgar smut ads when I'm searching for a friggin chair. Zaph has evidently never seen 'Flashdance'  |
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Zaphod Kotobide
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04-02-2007 14:14
I sure have. Voluntarily. And wow, that was some chair, wasn't it!
Zaph has evidently never seen 'Flashdance' |
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Brenda Connolly
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04-02-2007 14:16
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Porky Gorky
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04-02-2007 14:36
In principle I can why some of you are annoyed. Personally I think you can never see too many boobs. Looking for a chair and inadvertently see a nice pair of breasts, then thats just a bonus to the whole shopping experience, and if you find a nice chair along the way, then double bonus!
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Seth Ock
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04-02-2007 17:03
One of the things that I like about Second Life is the absence of Puritan values regarding the human body. It's just so bizarre that we Americans obsess over a little too much flesh, and yet violence is everywhere ... including children's cartoons. I wonder: would a recreation of the Statue of David be permitted in PG territory?
That said, I rather like the suggestion in post #14 -- rather than expect government (in this case the Lindens) to whitewash everything, do what Second Life is really all about: create a G-rated territory. One huge, contiguous domain created by those who see the need for such a place. You might be able to get corporate sponsorship for something like this, too, since such a "clean" environment might be useful to them as well. |
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Susie Boffin
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04-02-2007 20:59
The easiest way to deal with it is just to ignore it and move along with your search.
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