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Belgian police patrols Second Life to prevent rape

cybercrash Neurocam
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04-20-2007 15:10
from http://www.wtfsrsly.com/sl.php :
"Two Belgian newspapers (De Morgen and Het Laatste Nieuws) reported today that the Brussels Court will work together with the Federal Computer Crime Unit to "patrol in Second Life" because of a virtual rape case with a Belgian Second Life user..."

How is this even possible in SL and what do you guys think of this case?
Calveen Kline
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04-20-2007 15:20
Wow, they describe furries as "deviant personalities" and SL as a "very sexual culture". Hm, I wonder what SIM were they talking about? IMHO the person who felt victimized, didn't know the MUTE function. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I just can't see how anyone can get raped in SL. If I'm feeling uncomfortable with my surroundings, I just TP somewhere else. Now, if I was in need of attention, I'd probably scream rape. Jeez, it's a fantasy world!
Lucrezia Lamont
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04-20-2007 15:35
I am aware of situations where an avatar has been pushed by one or a number of other avatars with the "intent" to "sexually assault". All such avatars subjected to the would be "rapists" TPd away. Sure, it's unsettling, I don't doubt that, and I've TPd out of areas I was uncomfortable before but...

Any way...

Furries = deviants?

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Denise Bonetto
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04-20-2007 16:03
I had a situation a short while ago where two blokes landed in my garden and kept asking for sex. After I said there are plenty of sex clubs if that is what they want, one of them did push against me into the wall of my house and trapped me there. I just opened the map and tp to a random spot, didn't cross my mind to go to the police!

It is unsettling, but unlike real life, you can escape and can't be forced into anything.

From: someone
A very big part of the Second Life community consists of deviant personalities who dress up as 'furries' (mostly human-like cats) and interact with each other through all sorts of bizarre virtual sex toys. The Brussels police will certainly have an interesting case there...


Heck, am I a deviant as I wear cats ears and tail??
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04-20-2007 16:11
First off: Is this story legitimate? Or is it another :"Onion" type parody.
2nd. Who made the accusation? The alleged victim? Some busy body? Some Orwellian Government Snoop in Belgium?
3rd. Who was raped. "Rape is a form of assault involving the non-consensual sexual violation of the sexual, anal, or oral organs of another person's body."
2 words come to my view. "Non Consensual" Nothing you do in Second life is non consensual. You choose to log on, you choose the area you go to, you choose to use a poseball or other scripted object to perform actions. If a situation goes beyond your comfort level You can choose to leave or log off. Secondly the word "Person". SL avatars are not people! I don't want to hear that crap about "Virtual " depictions of sex being illegal over there. The same people riding that horse are the same ones who get their panties in a bunch over virtual gambling being illegal here. You bristle at being bound by our laws, I bristle at being bound by yours. my solution: Go ahead and open up the servers. US based servers operate under US law, those that use them are bound by those laws. Servers based in Europe can host activity in line with their laws. This story is ridiculous.
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Deej Kasshiki
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04-20-2007 16:24
Oh jeez, that "story" has got to be an attempt (albeit not a very funny one, IMO) at parody. I loved the paragraph describing us furs:

From: someone
A very big part of the Second Life community consists of deviant personalities who dress up as 'furries' (mostly human-like cats) and interact with each other through all sorts of bizarre virtual sex toys.


I just wish they'd quit picking on us and maybe blast the Goreans once in a while ;)
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04-20-2007 16:28
From: Deej Kasshiki
Oh jeez, that "story" has got to be an attempt (albeit not a very funny one, IMO) at parody. I loved the paragraph describing us furs:



I just wish they'd quit picking on us and maybe blast the Goreans once in a while ;)

Only problem with that is it is usually done to get a reaction. I doubt the Goreans would realize they were being picked on...... :p
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04-20-2007 16:29
From: Brenda Connolly
Only problem with that is it is usually done to get a reaction. I doubt the Goreans would realize they were being picked on...... :p


Your bringing your mother into this again, Brenda?
Desmond Shang
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04-20-2007 16:43
*boggles*

For the moment, this sets off my 'internet credibility' personal warning bell.

I simply cannot believe any law enforcement agent in Belgium would waste time on this.

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In the remarkably wild, off chance that I am wrong however, I hope the appropriate law enforcement agencies will take up the unfortunate case of ascii stick-girl, Binky. Here she is, to press charges.

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Binky claims to have been bumped too closely in an animated .gif file by dedicated, vaguely rabbitlike ascii furry StickFox McFly:

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Of course, Stickfox claims to have been elsewhere, and thinks that it was Binky's Gorean friend Lifestyle Tal, while he was sleepwalking, below. Lifestyle has yet to comment, because he's still asleep, dreaming he's a zombie.

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Do your duty, officers. I'm sure one of them is going to end up behind bars, either for assault, or for frivolous use of the court system.

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Porky Gorky
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04-20-2007 16:45
Man, the world really has gone mad if this is legit. Maybe I should call the police and hand myself in for murder for the ship I destroyed in EVE earlier today, or mass murder for every PvP i've won over the years in numerous games. This is surely not legit!
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04-20-2007 16:52
This is whacked. If whats being reported is factual data, then the Belgian police must be really friggin bored and have nothing better to do than patrol an internet game for signs of harassment. Thats what virtual rape would constitute, harassment. Foul language describing the activity while some griefer bounces up against you with his fake dick hanging out. Worthy of a complaint to LL, sure... but to send in the Belgian police???
Maybe thats the solution to all our customer service issues, TURN THE BELGIAN POLICE FORCE INTO LINDENS AND LET THEM PATROL THE GRID FOR GRIEFERS!!
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04-20-2007 16:57
A somewhat summarized translation of the actual article:

"Prosecutors were asked to go on patrol within Second Life. Recently, one character within the virtual world was 'raped'. In response to the allegation of 'virtual rape' a case was opened to investigate whether any actual criminal facts took place."
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04-20-2007 16:58
From: Colette Meiji
Your bringing your mother into this again, Brenda?

She's making Yak casserole for dinner Sunday. She want's to know what time you are coming over?Wear your new chains.
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Teeny Leviathan
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04-20-2007 17:00
Its gotta be true. It came from a site called "WTFSRLSY". I'd bet my entire collection of classic solar powered socks that anything from that site is 100% true. :rolleyes:
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04-20-2007 17:06
From: Teeny Leviathan
Its gotta be true. It came from a site called "WTFSRLSY". I'd bet my entire collection of classic solar powered socks that anything from that site is 100% true. :rolleyes:


The article does link to two Belgian news sites with the story, unless those sites have been fed a duff story too.
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04-20-2007 17:14
What a load of absolute rubbish.

Complete and utter rubbish.
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Colette Meiji
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04-20-2007 19:19
From: Brenda Connolly
She's making Yak casserole for dinner Sunday. She want's to know what time you are coming over?Wear your new chains.


gah, YAK?

lol well beter than eatting crow.
Alicia Sautereau
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04-20-2007 19:31
belgium, what a suprise lol

think some dutch told them a joke and they didn`t get the clue it was a game :)
Xio Jester
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04-20-2007 20:58
The only way I can think of ta get "raped" in SL is with that dam "f**k his head" attatchment. Call me confused...

I think this is a parody or a joke. When LL can't even track, & return a L$4000 vehicle that disappeared from your inventory due to a bug, then how could this "investigation" come to a real conclusion?

If this "incident" (I just skimmed over the article, didn't pore over it...*pfft*) can be proven, then that Patriotic Nigras group couldnt even have a base in world without LL's permission (?)
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04-20-2007 22:17
First the person is posting his first post after being hatched in 2005.

A doubt it......... :rolleyes:
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04-20-2007 22:24
From: cybercrash Neurocam
from http://www.wtfsrsly.com/sl.php :
"Two Belgian newspapers (De Morgen and Het Laatste Nieuws) reported today that the Brussels Court will work together with the Federal Computer Crime Unit to "patrol in Second Life" because of a virtual rape case with a Belgian Second Life user..."

How is this even possible in SL and what do you guys think of this case?


I'm sure it's possible to use LSL to simulate a non-consenting rape scene. I think that kind of behavior in SL is disgusting and makes us all look bad as a community. However, I think it is a waste of time/money for a police force to crack down on this activity in SL. How would they even enforce it? Are they going to demand that SL give up the verified information (if any) of the offenders? Is it in their jurisdiction to do so? Give me a break. Use the Federal Computer Crime Unit to catch online predators looking for children.
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04-21-2007 01:33
this post should be closed........what a waste. :rolleyes:
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04-21-2007 01:42
From: cybercrash Neurocam


How is this even possible in SL and what do you guys think of this case?

Um its not lol

It`s their choice to click the pose ball. And if theres a situation where ppl feel uncomfortable then they can tp away.




I don`t want to click the site URL for several reasons, but I have a hard time believe this is true. No one would waste their time. You cant be raped online unless you want to be, and then, it isnt really rape. just role play.
Mandy Carbenell
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04-21-2007 01:56
This is a hoax.....You can not get raped in SL. I've been in some very unpleasant situations where multiple ppl pushed and pinned me against a wall. I orbited them all....I also could've TP'd out...but imho ppl who perform these acts need to be kicked into outer space.

And again...the article is a hoax.

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BeBe Flamand
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04-21-2007 02:51
OK, as a Belgian I had to check it out. 'De Morgen' normally is a newspaper with quite a good rep. The article simply states that the police (computer crime unit) will investigate if any illegal activities have taken place. Further details are not given. This just sounds so unbelievable...

I have been in weird situations myself but you mute the person(s) and/or TP your way out. And that is usually the end of that. If it involves animations, you have to give your consent, but still then the above solutions will get you out of there if you feel uncomfortable.
As a woman I can understand the feeling it leaves you with if someone is verbally 'abusing' you. It's not just some pixels talking to you, it's a real perv on the other end. And that just doesn't feel right...
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