Does having sex pose balls on your parcel mean you'll have to flag it as "Adult"?

More likely to draw the attention of others more than anything. I suspect that LL is going to have enough to do without policing private situations. However, make it commercial and it will attract notice and perhaps an AR.

Ah I see - the "breaking the rules but no one will bother me becuase its in my own home" idea.


Im sure a lot of people will be using this one.

Its the same as the RL, smoking Marajuana, its illegal, but lots of people do it. Just keep it hush hush, in their own homes concept.

more like the military's "Don't ask, Don't tell"

Welcome to the New SL!!

This is all so absurd. Once you start trying to define the undefinable, you get confused threads like this.

"adult content is that which is overtly, graphically, or explicitly sexual in nature or intensely violent"

Useless.

There is a continuous shade from an attractive person fully clothed, through said person stripping off, through to engaging in some sexual act. Where do you draw the line? And what is "intensely violent" meant to mean? Does a spanking qualify? A caning? A whipping? Six strokes? Twenty strokes?

Trying to lay down the law on this is like fighting fog. It will simply poison SL.

And what makes it even more pointless is that SL is an extremely poor way of distributing images, pornographic or otherwise. You can upload images, but not download them, save by taking screen shots. There are plenty of better places on the internet to find erotica than SL, if that's what you want.

Dont ask , dont tell - leads to bannings when news crews find out.

If a person is any good at cyber sex, they are explicitly sexual even before the clothes come off.

You can download textures.

The problem isn't that there is no such thing as "Behind closed doors" the problem is the so called adults who refuse to respect doors and walls. It is this attitude that everything in SL is fair game to be explored and looked into that is the main problem. The way some use the current camera view is no different than a peeping tom looking into windows.

Theres a whole camp of people who dont want there to be a "Behind closed doors" Unless your willing to fork over for a private Island.

Many I think if presented with a partial privacy solution that wouldnt impare them or SL at all - still would be against it

Unfortunately, for technical reasons I think, The Lindens favor this camp.

Total specualtion but I am betting in many cases these same people always locked their bedroom door as teens so their Mothers wouldnt go through their "stuff"

In regards to sex beds, there's at least one shop out there that has menu driven beds and cuddle rugs that allows you to set its ball usage and/or menu usage to "Owner", "Group", or "All". Perhaps this is a direction that other manufacturers can take. I really don't know that much about the industry. Yet is still doesn't solve the problem of peeping toms seeing activity when its in use by its permed users.

At least one of the users in any sex involving two avatars is an Audience to sexually explicit content.

Yes all sex in SL and First Life is disgusting and needs to be banned.

especially in First life





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Im not against sex at all - I just dont know how SL sex doesnt count as explicit just becuase its not a business deal.

I think they should come out and say they are banning sex in Sl playing house - or make an exception for it - instead of being all lawerly slippery on the issue.

Poeseballs are no explicitly sexual content, but owning poseballs means that you intend to use them and that visitors can use them as well. As soon as you or they do, you create explicitly sexual content and your land needs to be flagged.

But there's more. According to Daniel Linden, "Landowners are morally and legally responsible for the content displayed and the behavior taking place on their land." So even if don't have any poseballs, if visitors are able to temporarily place prim objects on your land, you will have to flag it. Even if rezzing objects is forbidden, you can't know if others won't wear sexually explicit attachments. So, unless you monitor the area 24/7 to make sure no one creates or wears adult content, even a sandbox needs to be flagged since the owner is responsible for the behaviour of visitors. That's how I understand it.



Well, the whole point of the new regulations is to keep minors away from adult content, minors that LL allowed onto the adult grid by removing the need to verify accounts with a credit card. If there is any chance that the innocent eyes of minors could see something they aren't intended to see, like flying up to your skybox by sitting on a prim or using a flight attachment and camming through your walls, the land has to be flagged.

Not the whole sim though, as long as the adult content on the parcel is out of camera range for someone standing on an adjacent parcel. Which is often impossible on the mainland; which makes adult content on the mainland very questionable, unless you own the whole sim and place said content exactly in the middle, with walls around it.

Well, that's the only way LL's new rules make sense to me. If adult content can be reached or seen by minors by any means, camera controls or otherwise, these rules are completely pointless.



Exactly. Everyone who chose mature land for a reason will now have to flag it for the very same reason. Unflagged mature land doesn't make sense. And flagging land is useless on smaller mainland parcels... fear the camera range of minors.



It was never mandatory. Not for land owners. For me it was clear right away that I'm forced to (a) flag my land as a porn zone since it contains an adult shop, and (b) in order to access my own flagged land, I'm forced to provide Linden Lab with my identity details, which might end up in a foreign police computer if I happen to break some bullshit foreign law (according to Robin Linden). That's not exactly what I'd call mandatory.

Residential and commercial zoning might have helped in all this since then you could mitigate your argument by claiming private usage only but, since there is no distinction, every parcel is a potential business.

Again that's also under the proviso that activities take place between two non-paying, consenting, over 18 users who are using "adult" avatars and who are doing so in such a way that nobody else could intentionally or accidentally see what's going on.... and are on "mature" land...

What about if two avatars are on a sex ball but dont wear any private parts attachments and have all their clothes on? Is that still sex? Can you depict sl sex if the male avatar has no private parts?

I guess my question pertains to the pose ball shops where people go to try out the pose balls before buying them all kinds of pose balls from dancing to sex... if you are not wearing attachments while testing them and have your clothes on is it really considered adult behavior ?

I think it can be argued that its not and so if the store simply requires no attachments be worn and clothing stay on while testing them do they need to be flagged?

Elinah

Well then maybe its about time to give the land owner more privacy controls from those who can pan their camera into someone elses land and see inside a private room. Its about time to create some type of privacy controls against it. Its a lot better than flagging everyones private land...

Elinah

HAHA! By perfect timing I log in to find two morons making the beast with two backs in my bed! They got to taste the atmosphere for their troubles but it just goes to show how private privacy is... A shame though because I detest banlines

Hahhaahha depends in RL how good the guy is

I find that very difficult to believe. You are saying that sl forbids the use of any kind of sexual pose balls on pg land inside the privacy of the land ownders sl home? Well that isnt PG land, that is G rated land.

Elinah

They really do forbid it. That's why there's mature land. And all mature land will soon have to be flagged as an adult zone, except for the few cases where the land owner didn't really need mature land to begin with.

By the way, there is no privacy in SL. Only if you purchase an island and restrict the access to a few people.

A couple months back, I had bought a plot in a PG sim for my skybox, and later on thought about this very problem. I eventually moved back to a mature sim. There is no qualification as to whether or not the explicit activity takes place in your home. Who really needs to lose access to their account over the PG/mature distinction? Not me.

This is true only because some do not have manners or a sense of right and wrong.

/me takes a deeeeeep breath.

But I should be allowed to walk through your land because it gets in my way and ruins my SL experience and I should be allowed access to your stuff because if I'm not you're a bad neighbor and should be thrown off of SL because you are selfish and I want to be able to fly over your land and it's not fair that you should be allowed to stop me from using your land because it's yours and that shouldn't matter because SL is about community and if you want any privacy, you're rude and un-neighborly and it should be against the law for you to stop me and you can't do that in real life even though in two seconds I'll turn it around and say that real life doesn't apply here and you're just rude to not want me on your land.

*pant pant*