Are people losing interest in Gor?

Just curious... cause i used to be a gorean about a year ago on my other av, but today if i meet people who are into Gor, keep it pretty much quiet or should i say "secretive"?
Seems like they all are losing interest in gorean RP.
Is Gor kinda "dead"? Even though the Gor hub is pretty busy... seems to me like all my old friends have lost interest in Gor. And they dont talk much about Gor either.

My partner as well, she used to be a gorean slave, she had gorean furniture and to this day she still meets gorean players... but seems to have lost interest in RP too.
Any ideas? Could it be possible that they really lost interest in Gor? Should we look for a different RP game?

Well, i guess...

I mean LindenLab made it much more difficult for the people who are into gor to express their actions and feelings... they created Zindra for example... a lot of the Gorean sims needed to be moved, many didnt care about recreating their entire sim in the new zindra land, so they pulled out...

I lost interest in 1984

I left gor a few years ago because I did not like how most places seemed not to even remotely come close to the books though many said they were. I found kajiras kneeling about just chatting and they hang about in OOC areas and the city be empty. THey would tell you you had no right to tell them what to do funny the books tell it differently. FW were treated by many men as slaves in waiting.

The RP was more about fighting and furring again not what was in the books as well as there should of been more FW in cities but since the way they were treated it was not interesting for them so most left.

You might ask this over on the SL Gorean Forum:

http://goreanforums.net/

There isn't a whole lot there for a Free Woman unless you're very active about making your own story. Also, the male dominance thing got very old.

Just for example, after a long search, I found a scripted kaissa board (a board game something like chess), and then was told that women couldn't play it. I argued the point for a while, found sims where there were exceptions, but in the end I gave the thing away.

It was interesting as a cultural experience for a while, and I liked living in a small city, seeing the same people every day, but I got tired of being alone all the time.

I was a Kajira for about a week long ago. I was useless. I couldnt stop talking and chatted with everybody. I liked the village square contraption shaped like an "X". Anyway, who has ever heard of a Kajira girl called "Jig"? Kinda like Ten Million Years BC with a cave girl called Raquel.

Sounds like everything else: Year-old contacts are probably doing something completely different by now, whatever they were doing before. The good side-effect of that is learning about all the cool new stuff in which old friends have gotten themselves involved.

I never could stand the long haired, Oliver Tobias thing. Hippie muscle queens one and all - including the women.

So you didnt make a good Hippie muscle queen then, Eph?

Gor was all the rage when I arrived here but I've been gone a while, not really inworld for months. If Gor is dying in SL, I would think it is a function of exasperation with the need to move to Zindra and other adult content restrictions. Adult content requires you to give up your anonymity, and I would imagine that there are a lot of people who are not ready to do that that are SL Goreans. I wouldn't know, however. I wasn't into Gor, but since SL Gor was so highly sexualized, I wouldn't be surprised if the sequestration of adult content inflicted a mortal wound.

Don't get me wrong. I've made one or two in my time. I just wouldn't say they were that good.

LOLWUT?

So not true.

There are nearly 300 Gorean Estate Sims, and that was when i checked last in mid-2008. Only a handful of mainland Gorean sims existed if any at all. Gorean establishments in mainland mature sims would not have move anyways because most Goreans are not Poseball freaks and nudity on your parcel is fine on mature sims.

Go sell that made up tripe somewhere else.

If you perused the Gorean Forums you would see this is not true for the majority of SL Gor. Adult content changes can't deal a mortal wound since the majority of Gorean RPers are not poseball sexing but doing their sexual RP in IMs. Half the time on that forum they are talking about "Fading to Black" when it comes to sex scenes and not even RPing it.

Most of you in this thread so far have a really loopy, uninformed opinion of SL Gor and what it is happening in it right now.

The Pew Pew and Sex Sex, is not it, that was perhaps 2006-2007, when the explosion was still happening. But the RPers, especially the By the Book RPers have dramatically changed SL Gor. I won't say for the better, but definitely not in the shape some of you here are portraying.

The very fact that you hang out at the Gor Hub says that you really have no clue about SL Gor. That place is a joke.

Gor it's self is a joke !

Oh Jinx, STFU you alt.

bleh.

I think maybe the idea of Gor waning in SL comes from two events.

First being fashion trends. In 2007 it seemed like every subby in SL went crazy over silks. Gorean or not, subs were wearing silks. That may have created an image of Gor being more pervasive than it was. People who never went to Gor sims were awash in gorean imagery. I probably have over 100 sets of silks and have never rp'd in a Gorean sim. As all fashion trends the silks craze seems to have waned a bit, you can wander around for days now and unless you go to a Gorean sim not see a silk clad subby.

Then there was the Broadly Offensive Fiasco and LL's war on naughtiness. Before that the 'mature content' community was completely balkanized in SL. The Goreans, furries, dykes, queers, etc.. all tended to be, at best, in a continual state of tension, if not outright at war with each other. I remember a certain power-dykie friend spending her days going to Gor sims and griefing any male avatar she met. The Goreans tended to be the easiest target for all the other groups, they usually were stoic outsiders appearing to be almost snobbish in their behavior towards others, most of their sims had rigid rules posted, which could be perused and picked apart to find things "wrong" with them by those of us looking for reasons to dislike them. The Goreans had a much more vocal opposition back then, because they were so 'wrong' and we were all much more 'progressive' with our fetishes than their male dominated society. Well then LL when and put us all in the same category they forced many people to rethink their own prejudices. I remember when the BO campaign started, suddenly the fractious fighting between different groups dropped sharply as we all began targeting LL with our vitriol. Without so many people running around complaining about how 'bad' Goreans were, the profile of Gor slipped off the radar of many.

So.. maybe Gor RP hasn't diminished as much as Gor being a fixation for people who have nothing to do with it has dimished.

Patasha

You would think so, but the reality is quite different.

A lot of people are in Gor for the STORY, meaning roleplay, and some people, including entire sims, work very hard at making an interesting ongoing set of events.

It's more like improvisational theater.

There was a poll some time back on the old goreanforums (before it moved to goreanforums.net) about "how often are you getting it?" or words to that effect, and most people replied "not very often" or "not at all" - and not complaining, just saying.

Well. I agree that the Gor Hub isn't Gor. But I do think it's good for what it was meant to be.

The Gor Hub is a Gor-themed hangout and a mall. The map is pretty cool - you can walk over it, and it's littered with teleport balls into places on the map. I always felt badly for Fabien - she tried to make an entry point, a clearinghouse for information and locations, and she got so much grief for it.

Anyway, it's hard to talk about what Gor is. It's so huge, so many sims, some quite different in fundamental ways.

I suspect that the idea of "people losing interest in Gor" is a lot like the idea that "SL is dying".

This. Quoted for Truth.

Did they say "not very often" or "not often enough"?

The only thing cool about the HUB is the map. Don't let the "theme" fool you. Other than that, it is a place for hardcore Gor noob hunting by both noob/lame Masters and wannabe slaves alike.

It really is considered a joke by the greater community, especially on the Gorums.

I have been involved in SL Gor since the first Gor sim in SL went up in 2004. I do know something about it.

I know you do. I'm not knocking you. I just feel badly for Fabien - she put a lot of work and time into that place.

It's a fun place to go dance and joke with other people, find out what's happening on other sims. It's not a place to take seriously, but it's not without its uses.

And yeah, I read the criticisms on the Gorums. I was pretty active there, too, when I was part of Gor.

And, look, I *know* you know more about Gor than me. But I do know something, I do try to correct people's funny ideas and I always point people who really want to know about it to the Gorums.

My memory is a little fuzzy but I think it was a mix. For me it was "never".