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Translation of the ARD reportage

Aleister Montgomery
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05-13-2007 05:01
Please note that this is an answer to a resident question; that's what this forum is meant for, right? Someone asked in this thread for a translation of the ARD docu about Second Life. I translated the reportage as good as I could and only added my own notes in between (marked by TN, translator's note).



(Title Screen)
Report Mainz, with Fritz Frei.

(Moderator)
"Good evening. Second Life, that's the name of the brave new world on the internet where I and you can become residents too. Today, more than 6 millions of residents are registered world-wide, and the community is growing on a daily basis. Second Life is extremely popular here in Germany: Finally being able to live our lives in a way that we are unable to in the real world - that's fascinating.
Of course, big companies were quick to discover Second Life for themselves, even an employment center can be found there; built by Germans (TN - translator's note: failed joke about the high unemployment rate in Germany). But Second Life also attracts the evil: Weapons, harrassment and, as Thomas Dauser and Nick Schader found out, even child pornography - and this to an extent which leaves even hard boiled prosecutors speechless."

(Second Life footage, commentator)
"Only a few mouseclicks are needed to create an own avatar. From that point on, everything is possible within the second, virtual life: holidays at the sea, night life in the city, shopping in posh shops. And everyone wants to be present in the brave new world; even the (German) federal state Baden-Württemberg recently opened an agency here. Second Life - a better world?"
(Cut to a playground)
"We're venturing deeper into the virtual second life. A children's playground in Second Life. A man approaches a little girl and addresses her:"

(On-Screen titles, no sound)
"Would you like to cuddle for a while?"
"May I give you a kiss? You decide where I kiss you."
"My sweet little girl."

(Commentator again)
"The man passes some money to the child, only a few Euro in conversion, and takes her with him. What happens next is shocking: Report Mainz are the first to document (TN: a blatant lie) how players meet in Second Life to abuse children." (TN: no one ever mentions that these "children" are adult roleplayers).

(Cut to an interview partner, commentator)
"Trauma therapist Lutz-Ulrich Besser has years of experience working with sexually abused children. We're showing him the scenes filmed in Second Life." (TN: and of course we also won't tell him that these children aren't children).

(Mr. Besser, trauma therapist)
"It's simply harrowing. It's simply harrowing, and when you imagine that real persons are behind these avatars, persons who, so to speak, control these characters and the commands, and the sexual exploitation and humiliation happening there, er, then these things are really instruction manuals for sexual exploitation and sexual crimes commited to children." (TN: no, I didn't try to make him sound like a dork. That's exactly what he said. Perhaps he was simply too shocked to make much sense).

(SL footage, commentator)
"There are places in Second Life that are crammed with fetishes of the child pornography scene. A playroom; a girl in a white dress tied with a ribbon. Pedophile criminals playfully act out the sexual abuse of children here, probably hundreds of times in a row." (TN: that's how demagogues add emphasis to their messages; I doubt they stayed long enough to witness the supposed "hundreds of times in a row";).

(Cut to Mr. Besser, a trauma therapist armed with a projector)
"Scientific studies confirm that such game scenes are downright burned into the human brain. The inhibition threshold of pedophile criminals is lowered, not only within the game but also in their real life."
(Projector shows a human brain, to prove this is proper science. TN: most of the target audience of the ARD reside in retirement homes and don't need references to these supposed scientific studies. "Scientific" sounds meaningful, that's enough).

(Therapist Mr. Besser)
"This opens doors for them (the pedophile criminals) to, so to speak, while hiding behind a virtual person in these chatrooms or virtual Second Life worlds, rehearse action-guiding behavioral patterns in order to easier find new victims. That means, so to speak, it's a playful preparation to become either a victim or an offender." (TN: he still doesn't know that the "victims" are controlled by adults).

(Cut to a computer screen, commentator)
"The pedophile scene is long informed. An internet forum. German pedophiles share their ideas here. They also talk about Second Life. One of them writes: 'A porn movie that you can direct yourself, now that would be something.'"

(Cut to SL footage)
"This is what it looks like in Second Life: Inside of a house we witness how a 13 year old girl is repeatedly raped. (TN: the TV audience must still think that she's really 13 years old, and that rape is technically possible in SL). Other players are watching."

(Cut to an interview partner, commentator)
"Senior public prosecutor Peter Vogt is one of the most successful prosecutors in cases of child pornography. For the first time he's watching the footage from Second Life filmed by Report Mainz."

(Peter Vogt, senior prosecutor)
"I'm simply speechless. This unambiguousity - it really makes no difference if this is a fictitious or a real event, when the objective elements of child abuse are given. This... service is a child pornography service according to paragraph 184B section 1." (TN: and thus he pronounced a judgement on SL without knowing any facts yet. We Germans are really quick to judge, especially our police forces).

(Commentator)
"By now, senior prosecutor Peter Vogt has alarmed the Federal Office of Criminal Investigation. He wants to 'get' the operating company behind Second Life." (TN: at this point millions of watching German retirees must have assumed that SL freely offers or even advertises such services. Every German who now tells their parents or grandparents that he plays SL... well, god knows what they gonna assume).

(Cut to the Linden Lab entrance)
"Here it's being programmed, the supposedly ideal world of Second Life - San Francisco, Linden Lab. There have already been clues of child pornography, acknowledges the vice president."

(Robin Harper)
"It's happened a couple of times. All in a course of... 4 years now."

(Cut to another interview partner, commentator)
"Some individuals have been banned by Linden Lab for this reason. That's not enough for Friedemann Schindler. He leads the Department for the Protection of Minors on the Internet, and says it would be no problem to prevent child pornography within the virtual world."

(Friedemann Schindler, Dept.f.t.Protection of Minors o.t.Internet)
"The operators of these virtual worlds used to call themselves Gods (TN: I guess he doesn't know that GOD is simply an abbreviation of 'Games Operation Designate' and that 'GM' is a lot more common), because of their god-like abilities to set up rules and implement all their wishes into a program. Linden Lab has some simple options to prevent the sexual abuse, simply by programming their world in a way that makes sexual contacts between children and adults impossible." (TN: we Germans are a bit behind the times, especially our governmental departments and police forces who barely started to discover the internet. And I'm sure he also wasn't aware that children aren't allowed onto the adult grid in the first place).

(Cut to an SL group member list, commentator)
"Instead, countless pedophile criminals have settled down in Second Life. During our research, a German player starts a conversation with us. He sends us images. Horrible images. Report Mainz presents them to the operating company of Second Life". (TN: a German player who trades highly illegal photos to random strangers? That's so staged).

(Cut to the poor and understandably totally shocked Robin Harper)
Reporter: "These are the images that we were provided before."
Robin: (TN: partially re-translated from the dubbed german voice, since I was unable to understand the muted english sound; if this is not what Robin really said, the ARD messed up the german translation) "They're not. These are actual children, they're not avatars."

(Cut to the RL photos, projected onto a screen within SL; commentator)
"Little girls, mistreated and abused - photos within Second Life, available for everyone. (TN: Jesus Christ on crutches. What a blatant lie). The operating company is apparently clueless." (TN: Yeah, because it's quite possible that these photos weren't around before the ARD team wanted them to be).

(Robin Harper; again partially re-translated from the dubbed german sound)
"What I would hope is that whoever found these pictures will let us know immediately who is behind them, and we will call the police."
(TN: this reaction is completely understandable, unlike the decision to forbid certain forms of consentual adult roleplay. I also hope they catch whoever shot and uploaded these photos, and I also hope the police will closely investigate the ARD reporter team as well. They might be surprised).

(Cut, commentator)
"Based on the research of Report Mainz, senior prosecutor Peter Vogt immediately initiates preliminary proceedings."

(Peter Vogt)
"We will try to find out the identity of this person. If we're successful, this person will be subject to a criminal procedure for the reason of procuration and possession of child pornography, a crime punishable by imprisonment for 3 months up to 5 years."

(Cut to SL footage)
"For the first time, a criminal investigation is going on in Second Life. (TN: The ARD team really loves to claim 'we were the first, no one else cares'). But the virtual world is continuously growing, day by day. As of now, Second Life has more than 6 millions of players." (TN: I guess he meant: 'we will be back to dig out more scandals').
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05-13-2007 05:22
Thank you very much :)
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05-13-2007 05:24
From: Aleister Montgomery
(Friedemann Schindler, Dept.f.t.Protection of Minors o.t.Internet)
Linden Lab has some simple options to prevent the sexual abuse, simply by programming their world in a way that makes sexual contacts between children and adults impossible."



But do they really use them :rolleyes:
Ciaran Laval
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05-13-2007 05:29
Interesting how the report didn't once mention that SL is aimed at people over 18.
Aleister Montgomery
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05-13-2007 05:30
From: Usagi Musashi
But do they really use them :rolleyes:


How would they do that? Force all poseball scripts to detect the avatar size and reject short-sized avatars? I guess it would be technically possible. A side effect: midgets can't sit down on chairs anymore, or use a dance poseball. And no one knows if the small avatar isn't small because it's hidden in a prim dragon.

/Edit: I think you meant age verification during the account registration; in that case I'm totally for it. The new solution won't help to get minors off the grid.
Aleister Montgomery
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05-13-2007 05:36
From: Ciaran Laval
Interesting how the report didn't once mention that SL is aimed at people over 18.


Exactly. They simply stated "this is a child" or "this is a 13 year old girl". They also claimed that avatars would be raped; neither the real age of the avatar owner nor the fact that they filmed consentual roleplay is ever mentioned. Not even to their interview partners, who of course reacted as if those avatars were controlled by real children.
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05-13-2007 05:43
You have to remember that the media are primarily interested in a good story, and "SL is shocking" is more newsworthy than "SL is not shocking". So don't expect fair play.
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05-13-2007 05:43
From: Aleister Montgomery
How would they do that? Force all poseball scripts to detect the avatar size and reject short-sized avatars? I guess it would be technically possible. A side effect: midgets can't sit down on chairs anymore, or use a dance poseball. And no one knows if the small avatar isn't small because it's hidden in a prim dragon.

/Edit: I think you meant age verification during the account registration; in that case I'm totally for it. The new solution won't help to get minors off the grid.


It was more of a random thought, but maybe limiting the size of avie might do it. At this stage its anyone assumption really. Well the new age checking system will not do much, But i not going on recond like some out spoken small minded people running around the forums screaming hell about it. Making issues out of stopping ageplay, really if LLABS right to stop any forces that cause harm or other stressing facts to the game as a whole. The stupid people going around screaming and taking this personal really needs a reality check.
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05-13-2007 05:56
Did no one notice this?

At around 3 mins into the video, reporter Mainz, who was using that newbie library skin/shape is seen raping the eh "13 year old girl".

What kind of journalism is that? The guy is actively taking part in what he's describing, and then the CP bit.

I've known SL since it was first announced on /. And I'm one of those 4 digit /. guys, I've been in and out of SL every since then. For that long I have never heard or seen any mention of child pornography in SL. And to think Mr. Mainz as a random newbie could so easily access something like this? I smell a setup.
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Yuriko Nishi
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05-13-2007 06:31
lol thats not a translation, thats a comment (you don´t believe what they said) :)
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05-13-2007 06:55
From: Yuriko Nishi
lol thats not a translation, thats a comment (you don´t believe what they said) :)


I agree. As a translation, it loses all credibility with inline refutations and comments by the translater.

Still, since we don't have an unbiased objective translation easily available, it is still somewhat interesting to read.

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Aleister Montgomery
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05-13-2007 07:26
Edit my comments out, and you have an unbiased translation :) I really translated the actual audio content of the video.
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05-13-2007 07:29
From: Aleister Montgomery
Edit my comments out, and you have an unbiased translation :) I really translated the actual audio content of the video.


Thanks for the translation, I was trying with google but it was too funny to read. Just run the comments from YouTube page into google => Oh lol. :D
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05-13-2007 07:38
From: Usagi Musashi
The stupid people going around screaming and taking this personal really needs a reality check.


Sorry if you don't understand why some are upset by this; many wonder what may uspet the media next. "Forced" roleplay, BDSM, bestiality etc... most people are here because they're looking for sex, and many of them are looking for kinky sex. That's why we generally dislike when the personal freedoms of adult players are restricted for no real reason whatsoever. But that's already been discussed in other threads.
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05-13-2007 07:45
From: Wrom Morrison
Did no one notice this?

At around 3 mins into the video, reporter Mainz, who was using that newbie library skin/shape is seen raping the eh "13 year old girl".

What kind of journalism is that? The guy is actively taking part in what he's describing, and then the CP bit.

I've known SL since it was first announced on /. And I'm one of those 4 digit /. guys, I've been in and out of SL every since then. For that long I have never heard or seen any mention of child pornography in SL. And to think Mr. Mainz as a random newbie could so easily access something like this? I smell a setup.


I didn't notice that. You're right, one of the "abusers" looks exactly like the toon our righteous ARD reporter flew around with in the beginning. Black shirt, black-gray jeans, brownish hair and newbie skin. May still be a coincidence though.
About their photo evidence, I totally agree. That's why I wish german authorities will really find out who was behind the account that traded the photos, and who paid him to do so. It's just too conenient that a German player happens to unaskedly provide the reporter team with the exact evidence they were looking for.
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05-13-2007 07:46
From: Aleister Montgomery
Sorry if you don't understand why some are upset by this; many wonder what may uspet the media next. "Forced" roleplay, BDSM, bestiality etc... most people are here because they're looking for sex, and many of them are looking for kinky sex. That's why we generally dislike when the personal freedoms of adult players are restricted for no real reason whatsoever. But that's already been discussed in other threads.


Well I don`t expect those that are doing it know themselves......

The vedio showing those actions really put many speachless.
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05-13-2007 07:50
Thank you for that translation. It reads like an echo of a similar 'news' report a few mionths back in Holland. The same total disregard of the fact that these are not really children, the same tone of voice, the same shocked statements about "this is child abuse, and it doesn't matter if the child is real or a 3d picture." I agree with your comments by the way, they are at the very least no more biased than the report itself, and they seem like an astute analysis to me. Personally I think people who think it doesn't matter if molestation happens to a real child or to a cartoon of a child needs a serious brain check.
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05-13-2007 09:12
When I watched the video, it amused me the way the German journalists would say Second life in English. It was the only phrase I could understand before this translation in the whole video. (other than Robin Linden's comments in English)


"Zecond Lieff"


lol
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05-13-2007 09:41
From: Aleister Montgomery
Edit my comments out, and you have an unbiased translation :) I really translated the actual audio content of the video.


Well, I'm willing to accept that, mostly. There are two problems with that, though, that keep me from accepting that 100%. First, it seemed to me that the video was much longer than the text, which could be related to the second point, which is that I don't have another convenient way to verify the translation.

That's my single biggest gripe with the so-called "news" media, be it in Germany or in my own country: They seem fundamentally unable to present just objective data. I couldn't care less for their analysis of the data, I just want the damned news :) Gimme that, and if I need an analysis of it, I know how to find the proper resources for it. My attitude on that obviously colored my post earlier in this thread, too.

In any case, while I don't care much for inline comments with any translation, I do appreciate that you posted the translation as I've been pretty curious what was said.


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05-13-2007 09:49
Uhh...

From: Aleister Montgomery
most people are here because they're looking for sex, and many of them are looking for kinky sex. That's why we generally dislike when the personal freedoms of adult players are restricted for no real reason whatsoever. But that's already been discussed in other threads.


Excuse me?
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05-13-2007 10:05
From: Zaphod Kotobide
Uhh...
Originally Posted by Aleister Montgomery
most people are here because they're looking for sex, and many of them are looking for kinky sex. That's why we generally dislike when the personal freedoms of adult players are restricted for no real reason whatsoever. But that's already been discussed in other threads.
Excuse me?


It's a common misperception, and an irritatingly persistent one. I personally feel that only those who are here primarily for sex believe that, but you will have a very hard time convincing anyone differently once they see the Second Life forums. The "apparent" evidence is just too strong :) This is, perhaps, the single strongest reason for shutting down these forums altogether, as the opinions of the most vocal people on the forums can easily be mistaken for the opinions of the general populace.

There is a famous Zen saying to the effect that you see the entire world as a mirror of your own personality, so it's understandable *why* people make such comments, but unfortunate as well since I choose to believe that such comments are incorrect.

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05-13-2007 10:10
From: Aleister Montgomery
I didn't notice that. You're right, one of the "abusers" looks exactly like the toon our righteous ARD reporter flew around with in the beginning. Black shirt, black-gray jeans, brownish hair and newbie skin. May still be a coincidence though.
About their photo evidence, I totally agree. That's why I wish german authorities will really find out who was behind the account that traded the photos, and who paid him to do so. It's just too conenient that a German player happens to unaskedly provide the reporter team with the exact evidence they were looking for.


It's actually Mainz, and he is taking part in this. I found a clearer version of the video on http://en.sevenload.com/videos/f9aInk1/Report-Mainz-Kinderpornographie-in-Second-Life and compared it.

Here you can see it's the same person, and he goes on to say it's a 13 year old girl being raped. Why did he even use the ball?
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05-13-2007 10:20
From: Robot Foxley
(other than Robin Linden's comments in English)


"Zecond Lieff"


lol

OMG did you see Robin omg.....love the ""Zecond Lieff"
HEHHEHEHHHEHE
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05-13-2007 10:37
From: RobbyRacoon Olmstead
It's a common misperception, and an irritatingly persistent one. I personally feel that only those who are here primarily for sex believe that, but you will have a very hard time convincing anyone differently once they see the Second Life forums. The "apparent" evidence is just too strong :) This is, perhaps, the single strongest reason for shutting down these forums altogether, as the opinions of the most vocal people on the forums can easily be mistaken for the opinions of the general populace.

There is a famous Zen saying to the effect that you see the entire world as a mirror of your own personality, so it's understandable *why* people make such comments, but unfortunate as well since I choose to believe that such comments are incorrect.

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Does that Zen saying work both ways?

You see a lot of posters who seem to give the suggestion SL is all about sex. I wonder if you are reading the same forums I am.

I see a lot of people who start their posts with the disclaimed "Im not interested in SL sex myself, but ..."

Or have to somehow mention they dont see the value to SL sex.

If the forums was biased towards SL sex participants why is this sentiment so common?


Its true a lot of people come to SL for sex. Most? Thats hard to say. But yes a lot do. A lot come for other reasons.

It definitely true many come for things other than sex, however.

I wonder what the most common reason is.

If its sex, I would not be surprized at all.
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05-13-2007 10:46
It would have been nice to have the translation without personal comments on everything. Having to read the OPs comments does imbed their opinion with what you have just read.

Hardly an unbiased translation, we don't know if things have been missed out, changed or whatever.
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