Gaming the blog to suppress others

I think the point is really that the blog doesn't work well when used as a place for debate. If the comments system steered readers towards commenting about each entry (ie. offering feedback to LL) instead of debating it among themselves, then we wouldn't end up with so many disagreements, flame wars, and the downright abuse that we've seen from two users today.

The blog commenting system just isn't designed for debate. It's not threaded and it's more like a guestbook than a forum. If people want to debate a blog announcement, why not take it to a forum?

Well I disagree with you, as a blogger and regular reader of blogs I see plenty of debate in blogs.

However on your other point, maybe if the blog were fed into a forum then a lot of the debate could be taken to the forums.

If it turns into a debate then it should go to the forums.

However, that's rarely the case these days as the most recent blogs have shown. Only times I've seen a substantial amount of communication have been on blogs where technical info is exchanged. Releases about system issues are pretty much just complaint fests.

For every person that has a valid point to add after their initial post there are 5-10 others that just say the same stuff as the person before them or just say "good going LL *rolls eyes*" and other pointless comments.

The way any Linden made visible is treated like a retarded McDonald's clerk by the general public I'm not surprised they don't respond to much anymore. I would imagine that we would want to keep from crowding Lindens out of all mediums of communication they put out for us.

Some of us already say "I remember the days when Lindens actually answered things in the forum". Do we want to get to the point where we say that about the blog, too?

I think that would be reasonable and possibly more productive than the setup we currently have!

You're avoiding the point though, if the Lindens feed back inside the blog, then it is a means of communication and a two way one at that (I'm talking about the one comment rule here, not about whether it should be a form of debate).



That's because people see it as a chance to directly address a Linden. I see comments about other blogs in the blogs because of the 100 comment limit that is sometimes imposed.

Maybe they need to have a general blog and then sub blogs for different areas, that would probably produce more constructive feedback. A blog on the main page discussing a future release when there are so many issues right now is simply asking for a complaint fest.

This in turn is bound to annoy people who actually want to talk about the points raised in that blog and find 70% of it has been filled by people who are going off topic.

I have blogged since 2002 and read blogs too, but they're all different and a personal blog is very much different than a corporate blog. Some blogs have threaded comment sections which are more suited to debate, others have single column comment sections which were never intended for debate by thousands of people (as we have here).



I like that idea too. I've seen it implemented on a few news and IT sites in the past.

I don't think LL are too hot on the idea of forums though. le sigh.

Easy enough to set up, too -- "To comment on this entry, click HERE" where 'HERE' is a thread set up in the forum for that particular blog entry.

It'd have the bonus of not having all of the comments from disgruntled residents out in the public eye.

Problem was that the forums were 'too difficult to moderate, and downright depressing.' It's rather ironic that the blog is pretty much the same way, huh?

But I put my vote for the one comment per a user per a blog post, with the ability to edit the comments! I don't usually comment on the blog, because frankly, I'm a forum girl. I prefer the give and take of the forum to a blog any day.

But really, a limit is more than fair for everyone! And it would save LL the annoyance of moderating the same person out.

I've often wondered how many people who've read about Second Life in the media have done a search, found the blog, and ran away thinking "I'm not joining that thing. It's full of trolls, kids and lunatics!"

about the ridiculous state of things right now, because I am furious. I have time off work to spend on my SL biz and I can't do a damn thing, and haven't been able to, for nearly an entire day because they're... doing whatever they do.

screw the new "features" - i don't care about the glorious sunsets. i just want the existing stuff to work.

jaysus mary and josph.
and anik.

To quote again "Be nice, ask them to leave, but be nice, until it is time not to be nice..."

I am nice, and I work with people who aren't nice (I mean that is what I do) and trust me I get through and keep control fo the situation by being deep softed voice and nice....until it calls for not being nice.

I have not been on too awfully long so don't know how long this has gone on but maybe if this person or persons see the response to this thread they will do one of two things- get a clue or keep raving. If it is the latter then lets hope that banning thing happens.

Thanks for your comments.

I was just on and was able to move around by using the map. If it is password issue then sorry

O wow I just looked that's not cool. I dont use the blog much but yeah someone needs a stern talking to. I"m also surprised at who did it, but then we all have our bad days.... looking for some reason to give the guy a break *searches* can't find one.

A while back I did a quick count of replies on a couple of blog posts.

A certain someone was regularly 10% to 20% of the 100 allowed replies... and while I wouldn't want moderation based on style, content or grammatical correctness... few of the messages had much content or even any apparent effort to be understood.

Only 11% of the specific offending blog entry's replies were hers this time, but considering the blatent filabustering.... it's just proof that some people are utterly incapable of self-moderating and need to have someone else reign them in.

I'm all for a cap on individual number of replies. I would put it at 2... so that if questions came up someone could at least respond to them. Anyway. I've long since given up doing anything but scanning the replies for yellow background posts... it seems like whatever the topic is the replies are 90% utterly unrelated to the blog entry they're associated with. What's the point anymore.

Well Look at the resent bonehead that attacks posters in the blogs. This person cut and pasted a 3 day old blog remark in another blog just to attack and flame someone. Now if this was 6 months ago the month on the blogs would have removed the stupid person message. LLABS Either start monitoring the blogs or take them down, some are just using them to atack and spread hate. How low is LLABS getting by allowing such stupid blog games? What the sence of having a information blog when some are just wanting to oattach and cause grief to start with?

You could help by not contributing to the problem.

Couple things:

a) how is it LL's fault that there are ass#2les abusing the blog? From their history they seem to barely have enough people to moderate forums and even GIVE us information. What makes you think they have the manpower to police something that is actually more of a courtesy to their customers than a required function of their product?

b) Ironically what you just posted is the same type of tripe that spams up the blog comments making it impossible for people to post valid information. It's another "how low is LLABS getting by allowing...".

Maybe if people set an example of being CIVIL and not entertaining such belly-aching then the blog wouldn't be abused so badly.

Unfortunately, though, I'm a realist and don't see the above ever happening anyway...

Uhm. WHO was it that filled up the rest of the blog with offtopic drivel? *stares*



Darling, it takes two to tango -- maybe next time you and your partner should get a room.

Usagi take a deep breath and look what you did on that blog

honestly is this what an adult does? one with a level head ?

the answer is no I dont care what the other comments are but spamming a blog to shut it off that's just wrong. This is not the purpose of the thing nor is it appropriate and it would never even occur to me or most people do do this (i guess i am just naive in the ways of manipulating things like this or am not interested in doing so). The bottom line is your not helping the problem you in fact inflaming it and i'm sorry I dont care what the other guy said you deliberately shut some people up and others who had not posted anything were attempting to post something and took away their chance. This is wrong. Dont add to the problem its not the way

This is how it came across to me. It came across as a guy pissed off at the comments he was replying to he called a person a child and didn't want them to respond so shut the blog down in an effort to get the last word. This is what a teenager would do.

Bye doing this your not supporting LL or anyone only hurting yourself

And there we have it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Enough said! Don`t you just love one person posting using multi names? Typical and very sad.........Wel then again LAbs doesnt care about the blogs and the forums anymore. Hence what posters like this have now once again is causing grief and other problems.......Sigh If I had no life either i would think what happening is fun too........

You weren't referring to the 3 posts above you, were you? Because that was actually 3 people taking you to task for being an idiot.

I'm sure there are more to come. Man I wish there was a moderator in these forums!

are you telling me i have multi names? cause anyone who actually knows me knows i dont...

I have a spouse and one alt who's name is amra hian

If you do a search for amra hian you will find one post from him. My alt is created because of the "being logged out" problem so I can continue what I am doing while I Wilhelm am being logged out

There is really only one of me and only ever will be one of me sorry..

Oh, I realize this probably falls under the category of "troll feeding", but out of morbid curiosity -- are you accusing all of your nay-sayers in the current forum thread of being the same person?

<--- Walker Moore.

It says Alt beneath my name. A profile search in-world will confirm that I'm the alt of Walker Moore, but all my friends know that anyway. It's hardly a secret. I just logged in as this avatar after the password resetting debacle and figured I'd up my alt's post-count.

Hmm, be careful of getting dragged into a flame war guys.

Well, I have two other identities myself, neither of which is involved in either the Blog (seeing as how *someone* filled it up), or this resulting forum thread. Oh, I intend to drop this -- I've already pointed out a bit of psychotic hypocrisy, so my work here is done. The person in question is likely to try to fill up this thread with off-topic accusations of being underage until it gets locked, based on observations of past behavior, anyways.