Casinos - dead and gone w/ new policy?

Because "killing" another person on a WoW PvP server is not illegal too (not that this would have anything to do with gay marriage, which shouldn't be illegal anywhere). I thought that would be obvious. Like I said, please consider what is real and what is a game / a simulation / an interactive 3D movie.

Other then the fact that ONLINE gambling is what is potentially illegal.

While online marriage has no legal status to my knowledge.

Specifically:


And those two criteria are:


The critical word is "and." It's a Boolean thing.

And that's where casinos have the opportunity to evolve into something else. Tringo park... trivia park... anything skills-based. The outcome can't be random.

Make em no transfer and they should be fine

wheee lots of islands for sale maybe in the future

Well i wouldnt actually be surprised if this ban of gambling is actually related to the recent hacking of the WSE. Linden who usually dont get involved in resident disputes regarding $L had to get involved with the WSE situation due to the incredibly large amount involved and by doing so thay are admitting that the $L actually has a real value, therefore resulting in a ban on all gambling as $L are now deemed real.
I am also very interested in the fate of the banks and stock exchanges, i had shares in gambling related companies and i dumped them all today, however four dueces they still have tremendous brand recognition and i think it will be possible for them to change their direction as they have been dong that anyway.

Oh, and by the way you can still actually gamble in SL very easy, simply go to www.vgi-games.com and gamble with WIC's instead.
By the way i dont work for them, i did own some shares but they are all sold.
Im just getting the word out to show that workarounds already exist.

Why does gambling online has a legal status and marriage not?

The love is as real as the money that is spent

Like casino's in sl wont find a work around when a roulette doesn't pay money but tokens it ai'nt illegal anymore. You just need a token exchanger

If you really feel this will survive the <turn in your neighbor> AR policy - you are a bit niave.

Not really. I don't need Linden Labs to make full disclosure about anything to know what the federal law enforcement agencies' position is regarding gambling in SL. It's a matter of public record that they have no official position.

Just for fun and something to do, I've been going around ARing every casino I can find. There are SO MANY of them, LL is going to be busy with this workload. Everybody join in, report all the casinos in your area... as this is what they want, right?

Pachinko balls come to mind....

What I mean is your post reads like you know that the authorities didnt say anything further to LL than we know about.

In my opinion they would not tell us if the Feds did hint something at them behind the scenes.

Good riddance, I could not be happier to see the casinos go. I have seen the evil that gambling can do to people. It really is horrible the number of people who slip from being well off into poverty because of the false hope that gamblings offers them.

In a way this will clean up the amount of people wasting SL's resources, but it will also have some backflush to hurt those of us who never gamble *raises paw*. I say that because, what will those of us who run events to raise money to keep our sims active? Such as hosting a DJ event with a raffle ball. I understand a raffle ball can also give prizes, but what type of prizes should they give? Also those people who gamble, some of them do it so they can buy stuff in world, thus this is going to effect content creators now. Don't get me wrong, i don't like gambling and i wish it was gone too, but this is like stopping doing drugs, cold turkey. We all need to work together to find something that will attract people for events, that doesn't count as gambling and doesn't hurt the environment the way it did.

Yiffy: This means no more Russian Roulette for you!
Friend: Well if i die i don't care.

those of you thinking this LL is wrong for saying they ban this stuff... are not in the right mind. You really need to go see a shrink because you are having problems distinguishing reality from fantasy. A fantasy gun is not illegal... gambling (REAL gambling) is illegal... and SL gambling for L$s is REAL gambling.. just because you have to convert real money back and forth between L$s doesnt get around its gambling. Just like Casinos use chips... its still gambling.

SL escorts is not illegal... because its not illegal to pay someone to say dirty things to you.

You all need to focus on the REALITY of what is happening, not the virtual fantasy.

good point.

I wonder how they actually do plan to do this, i thought there employees were busy enough already? They didnt even do a very good job monitoring their ban on casino advertising.
Imagine the sort of trouble they will have monitoring this in-world.

People have been arguing about the costs of moving LL servers etc, what about the cost to implement this policy? it will be quite large i imagine especially considering the lost revenue to gambling not existing anymore.
I think they should instead consider setting up there own regulation body for casino games owners and manufacturers. This would actually provide them additional revenue as well as pay for the employees they will need to enforce this.

Why do they need to move to europe?, Antigua's not that far away, and an indian tribe in canada operate's a regulatory comittee (even though the canadian government doesnt sanction this they dont do anything to gambling websites that run there servers on land owned by the tribe).
Surely it cant be that hard to move to canada or even antigua?

So does this mean the end of crappy looking newbie casinos with 10000 camping chairs in every sim? If so I love what LL has done.

What I really care about is nice looking sims and if this will help eliminate the "out for the bucks" types with their garbage builds and lag then YAY!

Hmmmmm... not sure if it applies, but What if a resident had some gambling devices, and would invite his "friends" over to play? Or if these friends had such fun that they formed a "Group" and all the gambling they did was just between friends?

Sort of like inviting friends over to watch movies at yer house.

How is that any different?

*corrected her spelling of the word Prizes* Hey Firefox didn't underline it so i thought it was right.

Prize Raffles should be able to work shouldn't they? Basically they don't give money but they do randomly give away prizes to people nearby.

Prize balls that just randomly hand out prizes is not gambling.

That's bad reasoning.

There are laws about *online* gambling (stupid yes, but beyond LL's control), and Linden dollars may not be currency but they certainly can be converted into currency if you have enough of them. I do not claim to know anything about whether they are seriously at risk for running afoul of those laws, but they do exist.

The US laws regarding homosexual partnerships have to do with legally-binding arrangements ... civil unions or gay marriage or whatever form it may take ... but SL partnership has no force of law to it and so is not anywhere close to being the same thing.

Likewise, you're not really smoking pot or having sex with a prostitute or any of the other 'well what abouts" that people come up with. You ARE really gambling, even if it's with a small amount of money in real terms, and there are laws that apply.

On the other hand, LL should be doing its best to protect itself from legal jeopardy in the ways that are least restrictive to us, and I'm not convinced they've done that here. The bottom line for me is to agree with Aleister that we should have as much freedom as possible.

I have also seen the evil that food does to people. See for yourself: , and then tell me: would you rather be out of money or as fat as them?

Everything can be addictive. That doesn't make the target of someone's addiction evil.

Unfortuantely i dont think this is allowed.

WHich is a shame because there is nothing wrong with a game of poker between friends in a private situation, although US laws probably disagree with that too.

I reckon you could get away with it though on private, just rez the poker table when you need it and derez at the end. Just hope a linden doesnt show up mid-game. LOL

Multi-player slingo anyone?
No more casinos just slingo huts!!!