Wallace solicits conversation on RL identities in SL

I have more than once asked a direct question if LL is planning to require disclosure to be in the content seller program.
Although LL is answering other questions LL is adamantly refusing to answer this direct question. Perhaps more customers need to be over on the blog thread asking the same question.

https://blogs.secondlife.com/community/features/blog/2010/01/22/will-the-real-you-please-stand-up#comment-773016

Discussing this here is a waste of bytes. LL is not reading this thread. If you want to be heard then go post where it counts and stop letting people dilute the responses to important posts by trying to move discussion here or to non LL forums. The only advantage to discussing on non LL forums is that you can point out things directly and state truths that get you banned on LL websites. But LL still isn't reading those.

Post on the blog or your voice is silenced.

I think enterprise customers are important to LL, and further I think they neglected the enterprise market for far too long, and thus must focus on it to salvage any meaningful market share. But I doubt they would be so stupid as to ignore the potential of the public grid, particularly if they want to make XStreet into the Amazon of virtual goods. So, I disagree, they will not be closing the public grid.

HOWEVER.

They may be open to changing the nature of it into a space chiefly populated by avatars tied firmly to a RL identity. Discrimation against anonymous avatars is already gaining momentum within SL:

http://www.hplusmagazine.com/articles/virtual-reality/real-discrimination-against-digital-people

And, now we're back to Philip Rosedale and what he's up to nowadays. I was puzzled when I heard that he is working on a new "reputation engine", the fabled Love Machine on steroids. But, for purely digital identities, their online reputation *IS* their identity. Could Philip be working on a way to create firm enough "anonymous" identities that RL enterprises would be comfortable making contracts with them?

If so, hurry it up, Philip! Your earstwhile company is sounding like it may, in the future, toss the lot of us out with the dishwater.

If I had known SL was social networking site, I would never have joined. I thought it was pioneer 3D virtual world. Was I mistaken?

I have already dropped big clues to my RL identity (for what it's worth) to anyone driven enough to find out - or outright revealed it at times. But that was my choice. I still want a grid that is largely RL anonymous. Why do we need a Second Life if it's going to just be another version of the first? Oh well - tons of replies to the blog already said all that.


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They more I read that whole "conversation", the more I realize how futile any opposing view to LL's goal is. They want this, they are going to ge it no matter what. I'm done caring about it. SL was always about entertainment and fun for me. It is becoming neither very rapidly. As they keep piling on RL baggage it makes logging in redundant and unnecessary. The SL of the future, as imagined by many of us, is one I have no use for.

The few Lindens that actually understood that SL became what it is by being unique are all gone now, and those that remain can't seem to see anything past the latest Facebook or Twitter headline

I dont use facebook as Jig Chippewa. I do use facebook as someone else. But I dont like using it. It's just for family contact. And I'm not thrilled with that.
I dont liek the idea of anyone connecting my sl identity with my reality although its prolly obvious what I do and in a general sense who I am. Bu I didnt come to sl to proclaim my reality. I dont need sl to be an opporunity to be me again. It's the anonymity that I like. If peopel want to procalim their real id, well just go ahead - and good luck with the freaks who'll latch on to you like leeches.
I didnt come here for voice - which I still think is creepy (disembodied voices whispering sex and advice in equal amounts of drivel is not my idea of a fun evening)
I dont enjoy web cams either.
Can we just have a simple working sl world without full disclosure and with a nod to anonymity?

No. Which cliche would you like? "It doesn't scale" or it's "Not Predictable?"tm)

we wont have to declare ourselves, will we?

Those are some mighty big words Scylla! Scary. Sounds like the role players will just use non-Linden Lab grids to live out their fantasies. Second Life will be for business and Facebookers.

At least we have viable options this time.

Hmmmm

Appreciating that LL has done very little of late to earn our trust . . . I STILL am not seeing any evidence that a Facebook-type link will be anything other than optional.

There are some role play worlds out there now that are growing. If Second Life becomes a real identity grid then that would be the catalyst to push the growth of these other worlds that will still allow avatar-only identity.

... I am committed to immersionism and will never follow augmentarianism which sounds liek Sunday evening in Edinburgh.

.... The few Lindens that actually understood that SL became what it is by being unique are all gone now, and those that remain can't seem to see anything past the latest Facebook or Twitter headline.....

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A more real concern is that a push for more linkage between RL and SL identities, even one that makes such linkage optional, is going to lead eventually to an even stronger fracture between "immersionists" and "augmentationists," with the former becoming stigmatized and ghettoized because of their refusal to disclose.....

I wonder what percentage of LL employees are deeply engaged in Net-based social networking systems.

or it's "Not Predictable?"tm)

If enough people take the non-augumentationist approach, then that would support viable areas of the Grid.
Immersionists would have the best part of the deal. They can be open to augumentationists coming into their space. There would be a sort of tourist trade in which augmentionists supported the immersionist world.

Merchants of either camp would be unlikely to discriminate against anyones L$.

I know that some people seem to think that mandatory disclosure, through Facebook or something similar, is in the cards, but there is, in fact, no real evidence that that is the case.

A more real concern is that a push for more linkage between RL and SL identities, even one that makes such linkage optional, is going to lead eventually to an even stronger fracture between "immersionists" and "augmentationists," with the former becoming stigmatized and ghettoized because of their refusal to disclose.

However, these are all mildly apocalyptic scenarios, and this is all highly speculative at the moment anyway, so need to panic yet, I think.