Don't RP in Midian City (Homophobia)
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Chaos Bikcin
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09-18-2007 11:00
Don't RP at Midian City, as it is very homophobic, and i got ALOT of shit there, when i complained to the "manager" i was "ejected" and can't TP there any more. and i've been getting prank IM's with homophobic abuse in, i have reported it to LL, but nothing.
I have created an ALT character and not paid for an "additional basic account". IF LL delete or message me about that issue, before the homophobia issue then its going straight to BBC news, as i don't know what else 2 do and there allways on the hunt for issues like this. it might get them to set there priorities right.
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Michael Bigwig
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09-18-2007 11:04
I'd say let it go. *shrugs*
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Ciaran Laval
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09-18-2007 11:07
Do you really think the BBC are going to be interested? If it were LL policy then yes but it's not much of a story otherwise.
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Chaos Bikcin
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09-18-2007 11:10
one of LL's bases is in a state (Brighton, UK) where it is illegal and looked down on. LL's ToS does state that homophobia, racism and other discriminations will resault in the sim being closed down, or the user banned depending
edit: Also harrasment is not tollerated and I'm getting loads of IM's from the "Cat Walkers" in Midian City. no1 is doing a fuckin thing and its really getting 2 me
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Colette Meiji
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09-18-2007 11:13
From: Chaos Bikcin one of LL's bases is in a state (Brighton, UK) where it is illegal and looked down on. LL's ToS does state that homophobia, racism and other discriminations will resault in the sim being closed down, or the user banned depending
edit: Also harrasment is not tollerated and I'm getting loads of IM's from the "Cat Walkers" in Midian City. no1 is doing a fuckin thing and its really getting 2 me Do you have logs of the homophobic abuse? Should you not AR the offenders? Did the Midean owner actually harass you based on your sexual orientation?
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Chris Norse
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09-18-2007 11:14
Why did you change the post you made a few days ago? What happened? Don't name names. All we have is your accusation without details.
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Marianne McCann
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09-18-2007 11:14
From: Ciaran Laval Do you really think the BBC are going to be interested? If it were LL policy then yes but it's not much of a story otherwise. If German TV can make sexual ageplay seem like a rampant thing on SL, then I'm sure the UK press would gladly spin homophobia as LL policy. Doesn't make it right, but it is the way of the media. Mari
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Bradley Bracken
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09-18-2007 11:14
When did you first RA them? How long has it been? As Chris noted, you seem to be leaving an awful lot of details out.
Personally, as a gay man, I'd be upset and would RA them but after that I'd just mute the individuals and move on. Plenty of wonderful and fun things to do in SL. I'm here to have a great time and let those who enjoy drama play amongst themselves.
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Chris Norse
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09-18-2007 11:16
From: Chaos Bikcin
edit: Also harrasment is not tollerated and I'm getting loads of IM's from the "Cat Walkers" in Midian City. no1 is doing a fuckin thing and its really getting 2 me
Harassment is easy to stop, you have a mute button.
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Chaos Bikcin
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09-18-2007 11:16
From: Colette Meiji Do you have logs of the homophobic abuse?
Should you not AR the offenders?
Did the Midean owner actually harass you based on your sexual orientation? I AR'ed most of the messages, but theres so many of em, i have also EMailed LL about it, i have names but won't post them here, IM me 4 details
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Chris Norse
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09-18-2007 11:25
How did they know you were gay? You don't have to give names to tell us what happened initially.
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Colette Meiji
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09-18-2007 11:25
From: Chaos Bikcin I AR'ed most of the messages, but theres so many of em, i have also EMailed LL about it, i have names but won't post them here, IM me 4 details I dont need details, but im sure LL does. There would also be a distinction reguarding whether the owner banned you for complaining, or the owner banned you after gay bashing you. But its still the owner so its unlikely you will get unbanned. I never RP'd at Midean city. The theme seemed a bit chaotic to me with Angels, demons, vampires, werewolves somehow lomped under the catagory of "Modern Roleplay" Sounds more like the theme is really Buffy the vampire slayer/ Angel / Charmed - as anything else.
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Chaos Bikcin
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09-18-2007 11:31
From: Colette Meiji I dont need details, but im sure LL does.
There would also be a distinction reguarding whether the owner banned you for complaining, or the owner banned you after gay bashing you.
But its still the owner so its unlikely you will get unbanned.
I never RP'd at Midean city. The theme seemed a bit chaotic to me with Angels, demons, vampires, werewolves somehow lomped under the catagory of "Modern Roleplay"
Sounds more like the theme is really Buffy the vampire slayer/ Angel / Charmed - as anything else. It is in my profile, heck knows why someone would bother to take the time 2 click the "1st Life" tab but they did, then some of the "Catwalkers" started herling abuse at me, so just as i was about to retaliate, i got ejected. i've messaged the manager & she's "Not Interested", so im gonna go and cause a bit of trouble myself, just to keep the balance in the middle
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Love Hastings
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09-18-2007 11:33
From: Chaos Bikcin ... so im gonna go and cause a bit of trouble myself, just to keep the balance in the middle I'm sure that will end well... Love.
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Calveen Kline
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09-18-2007 11:35
Hm, what is RP and what does it involve?
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Chris Norse
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09-18-2007 11:37
From: Chaos Bikcin It is in my profile, heck knows why someone would bother to take the time 2 click the "1st Life" tab but they did, then some of the "Catwalkers" started herling abuse at me, so just as i was about to retaliate, i got ejected. i've messaged the manager & she's "Not Interested", so im gonna go and cause a bit of trouble myself, just to keep the balance in the middle So, you are not welcome there, but you are going back to cause trouble? I hope LL bans you too.
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Colette Meiji
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09-18-2007 11:45
As much as it is sad to say - this sort of incident will be on the rise in SL, its inevitable.
Back when SL was a hobby of the more geeky, more introverterted, an unusual place to go on the net. It was a haven for tolerance. Becuase those sorts of people whatever their insecurity have a common thread tying them.
Now that SL is more and more a Place of broad apeal. A place where "everyone" comes to hang out, etc.
You are simply going to get more people who are more likely to be intolerant. Both becuase of the sheer numbers, and becuase of the shift in Demographics.
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Ilianexsi Sojourner
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09-18-2007 11:50
From: Michael Bigwig I'd say let it go. *shrugs* Agreed. There are other RP areas in SL, if one place is too full of jerks just find another that's more open-minded. If it's really such a prejudiced place, why would you want to spend time there anyway? I'd also think twice about going back to cause trouble... it won't make them change anything, it'll only get you labeled as a griefer and possibly banned.
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Chaos Bikcin
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09-18-2007 11:51
Its Rollplay, there are 2 modes of contacting in SL, one is called "In-Character", Homophobia in that manner is acceptable, along with racism, and other forms of abuse, as its IN character and not real. then theres the standard (Out-Of-Character) talk, wich is defined either by putting OOC: infront of what your saying or ((talking in double brackets)) Abuse in this form is not acceptable
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Chaos Bikcin
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09-18-2007 11:53
From: Ilianexsi Sojourner Agreed. There are other RP areas in SL, if one place is too full of jerks just find another that's more open-minded. If it's really such a prejudiced place, why would you want to spend time there anyway?
I'd also think twice about going back to cause trouble... it won't make them change anything, it'll only get you labeled as a griefer and possibly banned. I cant let it go, because it was so nastily done, and its persistant, i've allready logged in as ALT and left a few (nicely placed, not in the way or anything) posters warning people of what its like. as one of my freinds had the same problem, i dont want anyone elses account getting fuckled up with nasty IM's
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Travis Lambert
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09-18-2007 11:54
From: Chaos Bikcin i've messaged the manager & she's "Not Interested", so im gonna go and cause a bit of trouble myself, just to keep the balance in the middle I think you're making a big mistake if you do that. That wont keep the 'balance in the middle': It instead makes you part of the problem. Right now, those folks are idiots for banning you over your sexual orientation. However, if you retaliate against them in any way that's also against the CS or TOS - you both become idiots. They're within their rights to ban you for any reason they wish, from a TOS perspective. No point in abuse reporting that. However, if they're sending you harrasing IMs, that is indeed worthy of an abuse report. Just keep your moral high ground, and don't violate the community standards or TOS yourself.
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Brenda Connolly
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09-18-2007 11:55
From: Colette Meiji As much as it is sad to say - this sort of incident will be on the rise in SL, its inevitable.
Back when SL was a hobby of the more geeky, more introverterted, an unusual place to go on the net. It was a haven for tolerance. Becuase those sorts of people whatever their insecurity have a common thread tying them.
Now that SL is more and more a Place of broad apeal. A place where "everyone" comes to hang out, etc.
You are simply going to get more people who are more likely to be intolerant. Both becuase of the sheer numbers, and becuase of the shift in Demographics. Exactly. A given percentage of the RL population are going to be *fill in the blank* so it's natural to assume that it be here as well.
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Marty Starbrook
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09-18-2007 11:56
in character racial abuse ....., no such thing .... as we dont know the REAL background of any of this... but certainly seems that you have come here stating that racial or homophobic abuse is ok if its "in character" and that you were ejected over something you didnt like .... Sorry mate ... BUT SL is full of distastfull stuff, if a person has been horrible to YOU .. AR them .. or let it go
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Chaos Bikcin
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09-18-2007 11:57
From: Marty Starbrook in character racial abuse ....., no such thing .... as we dont know the REAL background of any of this... but certainly seems that you have come here stating that racial or homophobic abuse is ok if its "in character" and that you were ejected over something you didnt like .... Sorry mate ... BUT SL is full of distastfull stuff, if a person has been horrible to YOU .. AR them .. or let it go i have AR'd them, but nothings happening, im gonna AR them again, and again until LL do something about it
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Oryx Tempel
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09-18-2007 12:05
I'm kind of confused as to why you'd want to RP in a sim where "in-character" racial bigotry or homophobia are approved and accepted...
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