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Conan Godwin
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Join date: 2 Aug 2006
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08-03-2007 20:39
From: Jax Huskerdu
I hear you, but suspicions don't do you any good if you've never even met the thief!!


Check my edit. Tell us if you have ever bought anything from any member of the group I mention.
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From: Raindrop Cooperstone
hateful much? dude, that was low. die.

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Racal Hanner
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Join date: 16 Jun 2006
Posts: 406
08-03-2007 20:39
Assuming you hav'nt given your PW to anyone .. perhaps do a virus scan of your PC to check for keyloggers .. If you use a WiFi link make sure the encription is enabled ..

Maybe a case of closing the door after the horse has bolted but all avenues are best blocked.

Again best of luck.
Colette Meiji
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Join date: 25 Mar 2005
Posts: 15,556
08-03-2007 20:40
From: Jax Huskerdu
Just checked. History says it was a gift to Erika87 Shan for L$31,376 while I was logged out! How can it happebn if I'm not even on?



Erika87 probably got your password? Or else someone got both your password etc.

Make sure you change your password

Check for Spyware,

Go through your firewall permitted website access with a fine toothed comb,

and then change it again.


Make sure your support ticked and AR have this Erika87 information and that you do not know who that is -
Brash Zenovka
Still Learning
Join date: 25 Jun 2007
Posts: 392
08-03-2007 20:40
From: Conan Godwin
Check my edit. Tell us if you have ever bought anything from any member of the group I mention.


There's 600+ people in that group. She's going to have a hard time recalling if she ever bought anything from one of them.

Also recheck your land holdings and any other valuable assets.
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Colette Meiji
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08-03-2007 20:42
Did you accidently give debit permissions to some item of your you rezzed recently -

Got a give from someone perhaps that spammed you when you rezzed it with more than one window?
Raymond Figtree
Gone, avi, gone
Join date: 17 May 2006
Posts: 6,256
08-03-2007 20:43
That really sucks! I had just sent you L$1 inworld but obviously that is not the issue here. Time to change my password...
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Conan Godwin
In ur base kilin ur d00ds
Join date: 2 Aug 2006
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08-03-2007 20:43
From: Brash Zenovka
There's 600+ people in that group. She's going to have a hard time recalling if she ever bought anything from one of them.


I was really thinking more along the lines of the owner of the group. That in itself is suspiscious. How does a group with invite-only membership and apparently no purpose or charter get that many members? Possibly by some perfectly reaonable method, but possibly not. Creating 660 alts seems a little extreme for even the most committed fraudster, but is not beyond the realms of possibility. This gives them the opportunity to move the funds between that many accounts that it will eventually become lost (which is basically what money laundering is in RL).

The owner of the group might be a perfectly legitimate business person, so it doesn't do to jump to conlusions. But still, it's something that LL should look into. If this Erika82 or whatever they're called has transferred the funds onto someone else who is also a member of this same group etc etc then alarm bells should begin ringing.
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From: Raindrop Cooperstone
hateful much? dude, that was low. die.

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Atashi Toshihiko
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Join date: 7 Dec 2006
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08-03-2007 20:46
From: Colette Meiji
Did you accidently give debit permissions to some item of your you rezzed recently -

Got a give from someone perhaps that spammed you when you rezzed it with more than one window?


If it was done via rezzed object and debit permissions, it would say something like 'object pays' in the transaction history.

They use the term 'gift' when you pay an avatar directly, either through their profile or the pie menu.

If you were logged out at the time it happened, I'd contact support ASAP, maybe abuse report it with whatever serious flag they have, and change your password.

Edited to add: Your transaction history might also contain the region where your av was when the 'gift' was made, that might be important info to give to the lindens as well, along with the transaction # of course.

-Atashi
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Jax Huskerdu
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08-03-2007 20:49
From: Conan Godwin
Check my edit. Tell us if you have ever bought anything from any member of the group I mention.


I haven't bought anyhing form them, no. but i noticed it was the only group listed in the profile.
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Jax Huskerdu
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08-03-2007 20:53
I sent AR, Support Tick, (both with region included) and IM'd the thief. I'm really sick. :(
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Colette Meiji
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08-03-2007 20:54
From: Atashi Toshihiko
If it was done via rezzed object and debit permissions, it would say something like 'object pays' in the transaction history.

They use the term 'gift' when you pay an avatar directly, either through their profile or the pie menu.

If you were logged out at the time it happened, I'd contact support ASAP, maybe abuse report it with whatever serious flag they have, and change your password.

Edited to add: Your transaction history might also contain the region where your av was when the 'gift' was made, that might be important info to give to the lindens as well, along with the transaction # of course.

-Atashi


ahh - k - good to know
Colette Meiji
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08-03-2007 20:54
From: Jax Huskerdu
I sent AR, Support Tick, (both with region included) and IM'd the thief. I'm really sick. :(



IM that group owner?
Brash Zenovka
Still Learning
Join date: 25 Jun 2007
Posts: 392
08-03-2007 20:57
*hugs*

I hope they get it worked out, be sure again to scan your computer for keyloggers/trojans etc and to check other accounts linked to your computer to make sure that Second Life is not the only place you can get hit. I'd check your PayPal account if you have one also, but may be better *NOT* to do that until after you have verified your system is absolutely "clean" as you don't want to give a keylogger any additional points of entry. Or maybe check from another computer that is more secure.
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Alicia Sautereau
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Join date: 20 Feb 2007
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08-03-2007 20:57
do u have concierge service?

if not, plz IM me the support ticket number ingame and i`ll create an support ticket reffering to urs as u can`t pay "rent" ;)
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Brash Zenovka
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08-03-2007 20:58
That's a generous offer from Alicia and I would try that also.
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Colette Meiji
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08-03-2007 21:01
they should come up with a nice , reasonble punishment for web hackers who steal people's money.

Like castration.
Alicia Sautereau
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08-03-2007 21:02
From: Brash Zenovka
That's a generous offer from Alicia and I would try that also.

if we don`t help eachother out when needed with serious issue`s, what`s the point then of being here and it isn`t L$50 so all help would be usefull :)
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RobbyRacoon Olmstead
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08-03-2007 21:08
From: Colette Meiji
they should come up with a nice , reasonble punishment for web hackers who steal people's money.

Like castration.


hehe... I was doing a forum search for something I remembered Argent Stonecutter saying a long time ago, and ran across this: /108/b6/95541/1.html#post951220

It's almost relevant, check the link :)


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Conan Godwin
In ur base kilin ur d00ds
Join date: 2 Aug 2006
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08-03-2007 21:09
From: Colette Meiji
Im that group owner?


Worth a try. If they are legit, then there is a chance they may know something about the person in question (okay, with 660 members it's a long long shot, but the group, as stated, IS invite only so it's worth a try). Oh, and the owner's account is only 6 weeks old with no payment info on file too. May or may not be relevant.
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From: Raindrop Cooperstone
hateful much? dude, that was low. die.

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Alicia Sautereau
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08-03-2007 21:11
From: RobbyRacoon Olmstead
hehe... I was doing a forum search for something I remembered Argent Stonecutter saying a long time ago, and ran across this: /108/b6/95541/1.html#post951220/108/b6/95541/1.html#post951220

It's almost relevant, check the link :)


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lol :D

here`s the direct link:
http://www.roma-victor.com/news/press/showpr.php?pr=060323a
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Brash Zenovka
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08-03-2007 21:24


Yes that was cute ^_^ However, unless they had the full cooperation of the "prisoner" they would never have revealed so much real-life information on him -- his age, his job, his hometown -- let alone expect him to stay logged in game 24 hours a day for a week so that other players could pelt him with rotten vegetables and mock him. But I am sure everyone got a good laugh out of it in the meantime and it was a fun roleplay experience.

May not be funny though for someone who's account was apparently hacked. I do hope Alicia's offer of the concierge-level support can at least connect you with a "major" Linden who can step in and help. I'm fearing though that the money is very much gone for good.
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Alicia Sautereau
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08-03-2007 21:30
haven`t heard anything yet and calling it a day

still feel free to leave me an IM with the number if u don`t have concierge and i`ll do it when waking up :)
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Jax Huskerdu
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08-03-2007 21:34
From: Alicia Sautereau
do u have concierge service?

if not, plz IM me the support ticket number ingame and i`ll create an support ticket reffering to urs as u can`t pay "rent" ;)


I own on the mainland, but don't have an Island. I'll send you the ticket. Thank you!

I've been remodeling my shop for about 3 months and just reopened before I ran out for lunch. I made my first sale while I was out! Then I had everything I've worked so hard to earn in SL since I started a year ago minus the remodel, uploads, and tier fir my estate property stolen before I even noticed sale. I planned on a grand re-opening tomorrow and was working on freebies to give away all weekend. I put the ban lines back up now as I don't have the heart to work on anything now and, well, shops been closed for mos. anyway right?

FYI, I happened to have run a scan when I woke up this morning as I had the day off and did some computer/house cleaning. I pulled off all spyware (nothing unusual or classified as more than small threat). So it wasn't that. Just keep an eye out. I really can't imagine how this could have happened as I don't share password info. with anyone! And I'm not a stupid avatar. In RL I live in Manhattan. I'm naturally wary of scams and have never clicked yes to anyhing that ask for money from my avatar. I read the forums and know not to. I'm just trying to cover all possibilties and that was one of the questions I saw. I also realize that the 6 week old theif with #'s in it's moniker is quite likely a bot from China or India or some other country (not a biggoted statement you may substitute with any foriegn country) and the odds of international prosecution for the amount stolen is unlikely. Again...WATCH YOUR BACKS FOLKS!

It makes me worry about payment on file status.

My "Premium land owning" avatar was just robbed by "no payment on file"
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RobbyRacoon Olmstead
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08-03-2007 21:38
From: Brash Zenovka
http://www.roma-victor.com/news/media/RV_6323_12_0_17.jpg

Yes that was cute ^_^ However, unless they had the full cooperation of the "prisoner" they would never have revealed so much real-life information on him -- his age, his job, his hometown -- let alone expect him to stay logged in game 24 hours a day for a week so that other players could pelt him with rotten vegetables and mock him. But I am sure everyone got a good laugh out of it in the meantime and it was a fun roleplay experience.

May not be funny though for someone who's account was apparently hacked. I do hope Alicia's offer of the concierge-level support can at least connect you with a "major" Linden who can step in and help. I'm fearing though that the money is very much gone for good.


Well... I was thinking that LL could just shuffle off the offender's avatar on an otherwise idle process somewhere and keep it logged on and "sitting" on the cross with built-in animations even without the player's cooperation :)

Second Life could definitely use some good "name and shame" for some of these offenders!

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Jaylin Buttercup
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Can Someone Help Me
08-03-2007 21:44
Maybe its because im freaking out, i cant seem to find where you start a new thread. But anyway heres my problem and maybe someone out there can help me. A couple times today I have visit places where the lag was really high. In some of those instances I have crashed. Some of the time I just relog because that always seem to help. Well when I log on I get this message that my inventory is still loggin and I can move around in world and people will see me normally. Thing is I cant move, my avie looks terrible and nothing is rezz. My folders are visible but are all empty. I cant type a message.. and for all purposes I dont even think I appear online to others. I have today uninstalled and reinstalled and on two times that worked but this last time nothing. Anyone have any suggestions?
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