What's new at the hair fair?

heh, Except everyone seems to be planning to go next week.

Visited the pretty Samhain sim last night, and was struck by the swift load. The sim is lovely. The buildings and landscaping feature pretty extensive use of older, more common textures, but extremely tastefully used. Minimal sculpts. Furniture is mostly from larger stores, and there really isn't very much of it - indoor clutter is minimal. There is a lot of complex landscaping, but if you really look, there is a lot of re-use of elements. For me, the place loaded up in a flash.

I use a lot of older freebie textures myself, and when I texture small elements, I will often downsize a texture to 256x256. It makes my alts happier!
.

I did not mean to sound like that, sorry. To me you do not Qualify as an ARC-Nazi.

To me an ARC-Nazi is someone that thinks ARC is THE reason for a sim to lag and attack everyone with a high ARC. Without even considering that there might be other elements in play too, including them having the ARC constantly on. Or sripted greeters that constantly scan for new avatars (huge scripting load) and many more factors. No it is my hair that lags the sim, Nothing else!

To me, Linden Lab allows us a sertan amount of attachment points, and a linking limit of 256 prim on an object. So to me, the limit of a sim, 15k prim, is a number that takes in account all other aspects.

I don't detach my hair, ARC-Nazi's should shut up and Mute me, then my ARC is lower as theirs, problem solved.

I have the same hair for about a year now. I attended the hair fair, and honestly, same as always... No good male long hair that makes me even consider a demo. Why do even the best and biggest name out there, seem to be unable to produce a good male long hair look that makes me not look like John Lennon??

Does anyone have ANY suggestion on good male long hair? Would love to actually have a choise!!





75% of prims used? I am not even close to that, but can stage it if needed.
If anyone wants to set such an experiment up, I'd be happy to volunteer my sim for the purpose on a fixed date. We can also keep an eye on top scripts and top colliders that way.

Would be interesting to see the results.

This. I have struggled around on 2 trips but could not find anything I liked.Looks like my 2 year old Dirty biker freebie stays for a while. I tinted it a bit whith more grey.

Depends how long. I can't wear short styles, so I always shop for longer stuff.

Sadistic Hacker have a decent scruffy collar-length style called Vermilion:



Or you could try eXceSs for something longer. They have several styles, but a couple of my favourites are Seph:



and the various longer Hakuei styles, which come with or without ponytails:



Sorry no close-ups of the hair; they're just from my fashion set on Flickr, but they give you an idea of the styles.

Accordingly to some of the Store owners that I know they could only buy 250 prims, and were only allowed to show a maximum of 5 new styles, not even other recent styles were allowed this year...

And regarding the lag problem, people should really read http://analutetia.com//blog/anatomy-of-lag

Is there any mens hair available. How much guys hair is shown at the Fair? Is it worth for a guy to go through the lag, etc. to find men's hair?

My male alt recently bought some long hair from Skyshop that I thought was different to what's usually out there. (He's worn his hair in a tail for close to two years, but I just couldn't resist...) It's really long, though, and kind of... billowy. Might not be at all what you're looking for. I'll grab him for some pics later today and see if he has a LM for Skyshop.

Something I'm seeing and enjoying at Hair Fair is some really outrageous "hair as art" styles. I really don't need yet another ponytail or short spiky style, though it's nice to see some new ones, but some of the elaborate braids and twists and hair piled high really knocked my socks off.

The lag? Yeah, it's bad. There were a couple of vendors I waited and waited for and zoomed close to the sign so there were no other textures in the frame and still couldn't rez the image. I may be back later... or not.

LOVED the boxes for scooting around. Occasionally one would snap back, but nowhere near the rubberbanding or walking in place I had without them.

LOTS of high ARCs and avatars that froze me in place walking by yesterday afternoon. It seemed to get better last night. I refused to wear the low-lag outfit the sponsors were handing out, so I went home, replaced my skin with a single 256x256 texture, made a little system outfit with blank texture, and left my hair off entirely. So I look like a bald water golem, but I am almost positive I'm not lagging anyone.

I'd love to see a sim all decked out in the Candy Land theme - but not when I'm trying to shop for hair! Some of the booths were quite cleverly done, but I think a minimalist theme with the focus on the hair itself might have been a better showcase.

An idea I've used in the past is to "wear" the box/packaging of the demo - fortunately the default attachment point is now the hand, although given the theme, the head might be amusing - then use the usual unpacking method and voila! I do that in many no-rez places.

As I was reading down this thread, I was about to advise these guys to 'talk to Skell'......and then there you are. Good role model for great looking hair!

If the usual unpacking method is to use the open option and copy to inventory, that will not work while the box is attached (unless LL made a chance that I am not aware of)

When I do the wear the box trick to unpack, I just create a new folder name it whatever the box name is, then wear the box, edit, go to contents tab and drag the items I want, over to the folder (I usually leave notecards, and landmarks in the box heh)

only allowed 5 new syles? Seriously? That is kind of self defeating isn't it, it is a hair fair, the place where designers should be showing off more new and less old stuff...

Well I know I won't be going back, too laggy, not worth it, already got plenty of hair anyway LOL

Still a dumb decision by the fair organizers.
Allow every merchant 100 prims and 10 styles and things would be much much MUCH better for the visitors. You know, the people spending the money and looking for new designers.

Or is this all about making money for the organizers (or whatever charity might be involved) by spurring shop owners into one-upmanship by buying as many prims as possible in order to stand out from the crowd?

Randomly scattering ice cream and lollipop sculpties all over the place is utterly pointless - I can't recall a single moment where I stopped to admire a candy cane, thinking how much the place is enriched by its presence. I spent most of my time wondering when the *$^T%# demo button is going to rez so I can try to move (crawl) on already.

Like a lot of folks here have agreed - we don't visit fairs to admire the landscape and this one, quite frankly, is a trainwreck both in terms of design (who the HECK came up with that shade of green?) and because of the lag issue. I've been to numerous fairs since coming to SL and this is the worst of the lot.

Fairs don't have to look like Noob Island, but reigning in the prim count would solve a lot of problems.

Those pictures are great, Skell. I love the styles you've put together.

I actually enjoyed the build. I did wonder why they picked a candy and gingerbread theme in the middle of the summer, but otherwise I like the cheery looks. I think I stayed longer and was more willing to visit all the shops because of the attractive build. Last year's fleamarket look did little to inspire me. I remember I looked for my favorite shops and shortly just tped to their main stores instead.

The whole build theme was only a handful of textures and maps so as soon as the first area ressed I never waited for the build to res again. Waiting for the shop textures to come down, on the other hand, was very slow.

I have wondered about some of the larger events, why they try to herd the whole grid through a few very limited sims. Why not give a deadline for the vendors and such to have the building done and then replicate the sim a dozen times or so. I mean come on, instancing is not exactly a new concept. New to SL it seems but not to the virtual worlds.

I noticed mens hair at Bryce, Diversity, Calico Ingmann, Philotic Energy,Kiss and DV8. There are probably more - but I was mainly looking for girls stuff.

You should go to a.C.Store and Kmadd, they have both male hair

Good point. That is one thing I did notice about the hair fair sims - once I landed, the sim with all its decorative props rezzed almost immediately. Still, the prims used for the props could have been put to better use, such as allowing vendors to showcase more than 4-5 styles. I'm not saying that the sims should have been so spartan as to have no decor whatsoever; but a classy, aesthetically appealing theme could have been executed that made more judicious use of prims, and may have even used occlusion to the advantage of reducing how much each client had to load at one time, thus reducing load on the sim that way.

Perhaps I'm just not much of a sweet tooth; but I found all the candy all over the place, with such large blotches of bright contrasting colors all over the place to actually be nauseating, so I found myself spending as little time as possible "admiring the view" - lest I end up adding to the technicolor!

However, I must give kudos to the designers for arranging everything so that everything was on one large circuit. Assuming one could walk across the sim boundaries unscathed, this arrangement made it easy to sample everything the fair had to offer without needing to keep track of which stores I had visited and which roads I had not gone down. This was executed well, giving the illusion of a complex layout while keeping everything to one single loop.

Oh yes. I loved this. It made it easy to pick up where I left off the last time and I never had to wonder if I missed something.

Haven't done it in awhile, but I know I've been able to move objects from a box/package into my inventory in non-rez areas using the "wear method." I may be doing the same thing you are.

Now I want to go in world and try it...lol.

At any rate...there is a way to get around the no-rez restrictions. I think those restrictions are more so people don't litter up places rather than getting to the contents.

~ ~ ~

The more I hear about all these candy canes, etc. the less I want to go check it out. I tend to be a minimalist anyway and my usual mode of "shopping" is to see something (hair, dress, whatever) someone is wearing and ask where they got it.

From this thread...sounds to me like the Hair Fair shot themselves in the foot big time.

they even textured the land it's self with candy...

Too bright and gaudy for me, I did not stay long once I could see eveything :9

(streets looked like chocolate)

Whew! I have walked (or ridden) all four sims, and I have more demos and dollarbies than any avatar needs. Found some great hairstyles that were just what I was looking for, and a few more with potential.

If things quiet down, I may have to go back just to admire all the sweet builds. (Pun intended...) In the meantime, I'd better try to get my inventory back into a reasonable state.

I keep hearing about the lag at the hair fair, and still have not gone. I did go to part of the SL6B thing and it looked good.

Anyway about the hair fair, like with the fashion expo, if lag is a problem why did they fill both up with things like either pirates, skeletons, treasure chests (all of which were only decorative) or now I hear gumdrops and such for the hair fair? Why not just a bare bones build, with the products as the feature?

Or is that too logical?

Okay, still feeling good about the Hair Fair EXCEPT for the designer whose demos (and included notecards) informed me in very harsh terms that if I EVER rezzed one of her hairs instead of wearing it, the hair would return to my inventory, I would be added to her LIST of copybotters and thieves, and my Second Life would be ruined forever...

Um, yeah. Way to call every potential customer a thief, not to mention making your hair (no mod, apparently, but of course it has a resize script) completely useless. Had to pay (L$1) for the privilege of being told off by the demos too.

Some intriguing styles, but no thanks. Demos (and dollarbies and notecards and landmarks) deleted. Pfft... I shoulda rezzed one of the hairs just to make sure I never had to deal with that loon and her products ever again. I realize copybot can be a problem, but that's just beyond unreasonable.

I agree... Absolutely abominable customer relations skills! Which store was this?

If we could all stand the lag, I think it would be funny, and well worth the $L1 each to go in there, buy the demo, and drop it on the floor! I can see her business model and attitude changing real fast when faced with the idea of banning her entire customer base!