The King is Dead

its possible the king lives in the US. If anyone has tried a domain look up here is the info its public and I have no idea if its against TOS because well all you have to do is go type in the info. /shrug

Registrant:
Michael Pratte
PO Box 282
Manville, Rhode Island 02838
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: GINKOFINANCIAL.COM
Created on: 12-Feb-05
Expires on: 12-Feb-08
Last Updated on: 25-Jul-07

Administrative Contact:
Pratte, Michael [email]fox85@ginkosoft.com[/email]
PO Box 282
Manville, Rhode Island 02838
United States
4016580784

Technical Contact:
Pratte, Michael [email]fox85@ginkosoft.com[/email]
PO Box 282
Manville, Rhode Island 02838
United States
4016580784

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.GINKOSOFT.COM
NS2.GINKOSOFT.COM


Registry Status: clientRenewProhibited
Registry Status: clientTransferProhibited
Registry Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Registry Status: clientDeleteProhibited

Well that is curious.

same result with ginkosoft.com

i`d say, have fun boys

I did, but pulled it out when he refused to disclose what he did with the money. You should be OMGWTFBBQing because you'll get your money back on the 12th of Never. Unless you throw away $1500 as a routine course, then don't bother.

To what end? if they freeze the bonds to prevent their balance from dropping to/below .01 then either they have to cancel all shares which screws people over even more royally or wait and hope that the panic dies down before unfreezing which I doubt would happen here so freezing would serve no purpose.

and when you look up the name servers which takes you through more hoops then it should the ginkofinancial servers are in fact located in the US this binds this entire business to US law

for anyone who cares ....

I pursued that same domain ownership trail last week as part of research for an article for the SL Herald (which I ocassionally freelance for). I ended up _not_ writing that article, because all the domain information lead back to Ginko's CTO, and try as I might, I could not prove that Ginko's CTO and Portocarrero were the same person.

I found evidence that suggested that they might be one and the same, but I also spoke with people who had talked to both of them (at the same time even) and felt they were two different people. If anyone is going down that trail, I wish them luck, but I could not come up with sufficient proof for publication.

If someone wishes to seriously pursue such an investigation, feel free to email me at [email]jch@carlhenderson.net[/email], and I will send you my notes (scattered as they may be).

Don't know if any of you all are familiar with Lou Pearlman. He was the guy that made nsync and back street boys. His claim to fame was being a boy band producer even though alot of the people that came to him weren't in a boy band. Like Britney Spears.

Well he was just arrested in Guam by FBI for fraud and theft of investors monies. This is real life and it appear like what just happened. He too was taking money from investors and able to pay the other depositors until something happened and he came up with no money. I believe in was in the mid millions.

You can read about this in Orlando-sentinel.com

Wonder if he'll start posting to this forum?

What he should have been arrested for is inflicting nsync and Britney Spears on us.....

I live in the UK, my domain however is registered by a lady living in New York. Previously I also had a domain hosted by a friend of this lady and she bought domain names via Godaddy.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but it would be entirely feasible for a person living outside of the US to have their domain registered by someone living in the US.

Zing!!!

But... but...without NSync we wouldn't have Mr. J.T. rawr.

ok... now that we've done our bashing of N'Sync and Britney lets get back on topic.


Good luck to anyone who's trying to track Nicholas down by the website info bout like was said up in previous posts it probably won't work.

I was pondering a few days ago on at what point Ginko was gonna pull the plug. Looks like the line was somewhere above 100 million lindens, prolly like 120 million.

That is 450,000 US in his pocket, nice!

If everyone cashes out of the bond deal at a 85% discount, that leaves him around 380,000 profit, not bad, for a coupla years work.

As much as it pains me to say it because it was at so many other people's expense it's hard not to admire how well he did it from an economics and social engineering aspect. He had a Ponzi scheme that lasted 2 years which is 4 times as long as Ponzi himself's scheme lasted and even when it collapsed he still ended up on top.

The coined term is now, "Porta-Ponzi" scheme.

Actually most ponzi's seem to last for several years. I even read about one that lasted like 20 years.

Not to mention hes going to skate without any prosecution and many of the investors are still supporting him.

Nick's milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.

this is funny tho


but ran into this

as far as my basic knowladge of law goes, this guy is getting payed a RL salary and is a US resident, that implies that ginko must have a RL company for hiring people and be registerd there

edit: also he might be the holder of all the domains used by ginko as he makes the bulk of the posts

now correct me if i`m wrong, as he has employies(SP) in the US, they must comply to all laws wich include taxes, medical etc etc or else RL fraud (tax evasion?) is being commited and atleast something to get the ball rolling for getting LL to release account info of Nic, if not by residents then by what ever govermental organisation

just trying to throw out ideas on a start as this really sucks for every single person who deposited into ginko so don`t bite me to hard

Hehe it just info and he didn't register with godaddy i simply used their look up system mainly because the whois one is broken lately. From a business standpoint the servers are part of ginkosoft and the servers to resolve the domain which would host the content as well (unless of course its a domain forwarding service which it doesn't appear to be) are also in the US. Actualy its looking pretty close to canada cause the dns lookup for that is having a hard time placing them. In any event the name for ginkosoft and ginkofinancial are held by the same guy which of course makes sense if ginkosoft is hosting it. In business you usually register differently then privately. The only question remains is if the guy who owns ginkosoft and ginkofinancial is also the guy who runs the ginko bank. What we do know is that the ginksoft has a person who appears to be at least partly responsible who claims to own ginkosoft who posts updates to the ginkofinancial website. So already the guy claims to partly be owning this business in fact he mentioned last week about transfering everyone to these bonds before it wsa posted by the other guy..

so its an american website registered in the usa by an american for the purpose of conducting business. I half expected for the information to be blocked because I had a very hard time with the tracert it goes all over the place but neverthe less still ends in the USA

another intersting thing about this is i could find very few footprints for the ginkofinancial website on the internet and there are none for this year the last onei could find was sometime mid 2006 for cached pages. Also right now the domain is being forwarded onto itself lol which is not something normally done

From the research I've done, that's actually a common feature of Ponzi schemes. There is always a core of investors who are unwilling to admit they have been taken, who blame anyone and everyone but the scammer for the collapse of the Ponzi.

i think posting the ginko owners' private info was a dangerous and irresponsible thing to do. seriously, how are you going to feel when one of the loony avatars who lost money finds this out and goes after him? i hope that part of this thread gets edited out. if someone wants to find him bad enough, then they can google him themselves and have it show up on THEIR personal computer history, so when they start investigating his murder, they can track it somehow. Wilhelm, i hope you will edit that out yourself. people are goofy, and $1000US or $10,000US is not worth ruining your life over, but some people can't see beyond the week. there's a loony in ever bunch......

this isn`t private info, it`s scatterd all around the internet and can be requested with 1 command (whois *****.***) and it returns all info

its pulled off a public database and it takes about 30 seconds its not private in any shape or form. There is a way to make it private but this particular bunch of info is just out there flapping in the wind .....