Illegal Movie/DVD Sales in SL

http://blip.tv/file/500704

Why does it seem SL is turning a blind eye to this illegal activity?

Discuss? And you're going to analize and preside over this discussion?

If you don't want to give your thoughts on this fine, Im just bringing to light a pretty big legal issue that no one seems to want to touch on

This has been talked abut since vedio was released back in 2005 on sl. Nothing new here.

Where is the evidence?

You fail to present your story with evidence, therefore you make it show a non intelligent, competitive and evidence lacking case showing.

Sorry, that's not journalism, it's empathy.

Get rid of the quicktime only streaming, allow streaming mp4 and this will die a death.

Um? I dont even have Quick Time installed anymore. There is no need for it. If i want to watch movies I watch on larger screen TV.

You think its bad now.... Just wait till we are able to play Flash files in SL.

I use quicktime alternative myself but have been using VLC instead lately plays everything and it's free. Even comes with a transcoding, streaming server built in. I have a large collection of movies and Sci-fi shows on dvd that I would like to ocasionaly watch in world with a few friends, a simple task with VLC if I could stream mp4's in world instead of the "proprietary" qt format. As I own the dvd's it is not illegal for me to do this as long as I hold a private viewing and don't charge for it. However I am not paying for QTPro, or any other converter, just for the privlege of watching my own stuff inworld. QT is afterall just mp4 in a proprietary container, how much more effort would it have been to open it up to other container formats. But what do you expect when you hire former apple employiees to impliment video in world.

The MPEG 4 container format *is* QuickTime, that is where they got it from.

Where is the question here?

There's no equivalent to a private RL viewing online. You'd be redistributing a copyrighted work.

you have that back to front, QT is "a" mpeg 4 container format, if you want to encode to qt you have to pay someone for the privlege. Mp4 is an open container format so you can encode and decode for free. The information in both containers is the same, but apple want you to pay to use theirs, which is why most mpeg 4 files are mp4 not qt format. AFAIK SL only suports the QT codec for decoding mpeg 4 video files, adding codecs for mp4 (and others) would not be difficult and would open up SL's video options.



you can stream to a single IP address, so unless you are on the parcle specified you cannot see the stream, this would then be a priviat viewing. It's no diffrent to piping it from your livingroom to your bedroom.

Ah, I wish for this next!! Even tho their compression of RL Video sucks, its so damn popular its hard to avoid.

MPEG 4 Part 14 is the open standard container that came directly from QuickTime. You may be confusing the issue with various codecs that can be used within MPEG 4, some of which are proprietary.

Frankly speaking Quick Time is a waste of BW I feel. Oh it has its purpose on sl. But maninly for porn etc..... But the qupte about says it all!
Very good comment!

Usagi

What is this fuzzy logic? Shakeshead

Sounds like I hit a chord with you, what further evidence do you need that these SL "businesses" are selling movies that they don't own? Does it need to be spelled out any further for you? Do I need actually show the bootleg video with the guy in the 4th row standing up to take a pee during the movie. I'm not making this stuff up.

and your question is?

does anyone really care? mostly quility is bad etc. As I remeber from the past on sl.

My question is why are these bootleggers allowed to sell these movies and make thousands of dollars when its a federal offense

shakesheads...........

Hit a chord? Not at all... I couldn't care less. You are so passionate about your competitive thing (I still don't know what it is) that you misunderstand my words and opinion.

See? I said passionate, not blind.

Also, I still don't know how you see that there are not people who actually PAID royalties to be able to offer VOD movies inside SL... How can *you* tell who is legal and who isn't? Explain this to me and I'm done. Where are the facts?

If you don't provide evidence - but only speculation and assumptions based on *your* logic - I will continue having you in the list of people that are and react like an immature teenager that has nothing to do and knows nothing about business.

Sorry, perhaps when you let the steam blow you see my point and the flaws in your tactics.

It may be wrong for me to give you self-improvement lessons uninvited, but I happened to visit the forums for another reason and came across your post so I thought I'd express my opinion as well; especially since I lost my precious time watching your video thinking beforehand it may have even some minor importance. Unfortunately it had none whatsoever...

You sound like an alt of one of these bootleggers. I'm sure American Gangster which is not even out on RL DVD yet gave permission to sell it inside Second Life. These people are making thousands of dollars illegally, but hey whats the big deal. Im also sure the some of the other "new releases" shot with a camcorder in the back of a theater were licensed too right? You're out of your mind. Do I need to actually call up Universal like a fool and ask if they sanctioned a camcorder in the back of the theater? Give me a break

Simple answer.

As you stated in your 'news video' one of the servers was in Hong Kong?(may have been another country but I didnt pay close attention) If they are in Hong Kong, the USA'a federal offense doesn't apply there. The MPAA can take up suit in a court in Hong Kong and fight it in their courts.

That's also why most of the 'good' bittorrent sites, gambling sites etc are in Sweden, Cayman islands offshore server facilities, etc. Our laws don't apply there.