Automated Burglary

A responsible businessperson prepares before launching something that affects thousands of people in one way or another, positively, negatively, a bit of both, or otherwise.

Just sayin'.

Wow, this thread reached seventy pages.

SEVENTY.

I am so happy not to forum-swim anymore... can't imagine any benefit to it for any of you corporate-types out there.

hehe

I doubt most of the Posters in this thread even read half of it.

1 vote so far. (thanks Brenda!)


Well, it was worth a thought.

I guess folks would rather let searchbots find their unintentional "for-sale" items first.

I put my votes to Meade's improving the current search idea (i think it said I did anyhow- I hate that system)

I dont think there should be spybots though =/- at all - still.

After 70 pages I really dont see the redeeming value to the resulting search. Most of the arguments for the searchbot have been related to how its within the TOS/CS and you have no privacy anyhow. Most references to the real advantage of the searchbot have been vauge "the in-game search isnt good enough" comments.

Can someone even provide and example of a legitimate product thats easier to find with the searchbot than the normal Classified/Places Search in game?

Im not using "the searchbot doesnt work" as a anti-ESC search arguement really - Im simply stating that FOR ME I dont see the advantage of the search capabilities even when it Does work as intended.

Best use so far seems to be finding people that are selling illegitimate copies of your own stuff.

Which seems pretty darned valuable to me. (I've found 8 so far!)

Of course people who are selling illegal copies will be opt out types when the word spreads abotu the bot.

However, this does seem like a valuable use - you have a point.

Too bad this bot can't read the contents of vendor devices, so it probably misses some 90% of them. If your case is typical, Rusty, you've only got around 80 more to find!

A smarter thief would find something more worthwhile to pirate than my stuff.

You're very welcome!

Hopefully more people will find it at jira.secondlife.com. It's hard to educate people about what they don't know they don't know.



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Actually, I've had a vote or two I've wanted to cast on Jira, and for the life of me I can't figure out how. Could you educate us Jira illiterates?

https://jira.secondlife.com/ is the JIRA site.

Hi there! In order to cast votes (or anything else) on JIRA you first have to log in. It's a tiny underlined option way up in the upper right corner of your screen. Use your SL name and password.

Once you've found an issue from the lists (e.g. Viewer/Avatar/VWR-45 you can click on it and read its description, what has happened re: the issue, any comments, etc. To tell LL that this issue is important to you and that you think it should be fixed, you need to vote for it. You'll see this option on the left hand side of the screen, under the Operations menu. "Vote For It" is the last option available. Just click that to make your voice heard!

It took me a while to figure out that YOU MUST BE LOGGED INTO THE JIRA SYSTEM in order to vote. Not super obvious...

I have to say that I hate the Jira system so much (too fiddly) that honestly its a good deterent for reporting bugs in my case. Unless someone gives me a link there is no way I"m gonna manage to find an appropriate thread for one in under an hour and so i give up in frustration and make my own and put a message at the bottom saying "please if you have another thread on this open just merge this report with that one spent 1+ hours looking gave up "

Whew! Finally got my vote cast. Now that I did it, I don't see what the fuss was about. Why, anybody who still edits in DOS off the c: prompt should have no trouble with it at all : X

Thank you for that nice piece of thread necromancy. If this keeps going we'll eventually break 100 pages

Hmm interesting definition of Thread Necromancy - since this one faded to a wimper - but that near death was only a week ago or so.

Id use the term- Thread medical intervention - trying to bump a mostly dead thread back to life.



Though this issue, which largely spun around in game privacy was really back seat compared to worries over RL privacy in the Age Verification Plan.

It all ties into privacy, doesn't it? Does LL value us enough as customers to respect and defend our privacy, from selling or allowing access to our prims/objects on "our" properties, to asking for numbers that SHOULD be private, like our Social Security or Passport numbers?

That's really what this is all about. We need to know that LL isn't going to throw us and our second lives to the wolves of corporate greed and identity thieves...

I dont think they want the responsibility of either.

Hence the not stepping in on Search and Landbots;

and moving verification to a third party.

When Ford Started spinning off all of its various atvities in favor of "Core"-business it was like that they only wanted to make cars. (not even to design them)

I see Linden Labs doing the same thing - they want to control the mechanics of the new 3D Web Metaverse. They dont want to worry about the people on it.

Addendum: Here is the link for the proposition to add "sell to specific avatar" option on each object:

https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-470

Thanks, Oryx. Can't think of a builder or large landowner tht wouldn't jump to vote for this, if they know it is there and how to go vote for it. (Hint: Do remember to log in, so the vote option appears.)

From an interview with ESC’s Joel Greenberg, called “Marketing in The Virtual World” in the Austin American Statesman:

So what are some of the things the Electric Sheep Co. is working on?

One of the discussions we've been having is something called lifelogging. The thing that virtual worlds have that the real world doesn't is data. If we want, we could collect all the other avatars you've been hanging out with on a regular basis. And create a social map of your life. We take pictures, right? So we can collect photographs on a regular basis. One of the things we've been talking about is how would all of this stuff be useful to you in the world? You know like in your cell phone, you've got all the calls that you've made and all the calls that you've missed. That's useful.

http://www.statesman.com/business/content/business/stories/technology/04/23/23greenberg.html

coco

Its okay Coco - theres no one who actually wants the data.

For it to be even remotely accurate, I'm certain volunteers would be required to wear some sort of scripted monitoring device, or use a custom-modded open-source viewer, either or both of which would funnel data collection to some external repository.

They could try with bots, but they'd need a bot per 'lifelogger', and even then it wouldn't be very reliable.

The whole thing sounds like volunteering for "Reality TV". Bleagh, not for me.

hopefully any volunteers arent chosen the same way they chose the searchbot volunteers.

/me checks for unwanted attachments to her Avi

BTW I am going to vote on the proposal, whem my headache subsides. Look at JIRA always makes me nauseous.