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Suzi Sohmers
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07-08-2007 18:24
From: Hoax Zabelin It seems my younger brother got onto my account and did something...well...strange. When i logged into my account earlier today i was banned. I'm not exactly sure what type of ban, but it seems serious because when i log it, it says "second life cannot be accessed on this computer". I know for a fact that i did nothing bannable, the last time i was online, i had just purchased a very nice space cruiser, and was tooling around with it. I was out with some friends for most of today, and attempted to log in around 9pm eastern time. My brother denies getting onto my computer, but i can tell he's lying. I trust him to be competent on the internet, and thus i have been lax about security measures, which i now gravely regret. He has his own second life account, which i trust him not to do anything bannable with. IT seems he has now crossed the line. I was working on a very important model.
Has anyone else been banned out of the blue? and if so, what can i do to get it appealed? I'm desperate there!
-(as a side note, my brother was on a SEPPERATE ACCOUNT when he did whatever it is he did. We only share computers.)
-I have already sent some support tickets, my younger brother's ticket was responded to saying he crashed a sim (he admits to it now), and mine is still ongoing. I also submitted a ban appeal to the abuse reporting team (i got the abuse reporting team email in the "solution provided" email saying my brother had broken the TOS, i guess they also deal with ban appeals). Wasn't me sargeant, it went off while I was cleaning it, honest
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Aleister Montgomery
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07-08-2007 18:42
From: Farallon Greyskin Didn't see this mentioned as I skimmed though, but there is also the possibility that no one did anything wrong.
I know 3 people now that have gotten their computer "banned" by mac address and NONE of them did anything wrong.
Either there are a ton of network cards out there using duplicate mac adddresses or LL's method of blocking them is quite error prone.
In every case a call into LL (A chore yes) solved the problem. As far as I know, they use a hardware hash in case of PCs. Which is unique enough. If a Mac address is only derived from the network card, and there's no other way to generate a unique hash ID, it's a general Macintosh problem.
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Deej Kasshiki
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07-08-2007 22:43
Ummm, MAC address does not refer to an Apple Macintosh, but the Media Access Control layer ID of a network card...also known as an Ethernet ID. Unfortunately these can (and are all the time) easily spoofed or changed. Most routers have settings to clone MAC addresses from other devices on a network... Macs use the same networking protocols as Win PCs, Linux boxes, etc. That's how I'm able to use the same tubes as you to get on the interwebs and to use SL. Ok, now back to your regularly scheduled chat 
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AWM Mars
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07-09-2007 07:35
Lemme get this straight... your brother has his own account, setup using a 'phoney' email address, he learnt how to do by his greifer pals... you are lax about security of your account, he lied to you about using your account, but later admitted it after you found out you are banned, for crashing a SIM! I assume he can still use his account, as LL don't normally ban by IP address, which means that your PC and account are now effectively banned. Your brother is underage to be using the Mature version of an account, but you are laxed about security. The result is you are now banned and you want sympathy from the forum readers because? Resolution, get smart. Is this a Hoax? (sorry couldn't resist that)
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Angelique LaFollette
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07-09-2007 07:58
From: Suzi Sohmers J-roc, it's way past your bedtime. Come inside now and stop irritating people. Suzi, and Har as well, Just what was it that Jumpman said that was Wrong? Despite his Manner of speech, what he said was entirely correct, The Lindens DO tend to come down hard on people deliberately Crashing sims. It IS extremely irritating when you work for hours or days on something Only to have some Cerebral Pygmy Damage or destroy what you've done by forcing a Sim Rollback. And Yes, the best way for Hoax to get around the ban WOULD be to purchase a New computer, One he WOULD be well advised to Keep his irresponsible younger sibling Away from. I Understood him perfectly and he was quite reasonable. Angel.
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JessyAnne Theas
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07-09-2007 08:08
If you were able to log onto the forums... then you aren't banned.
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Har Fairweather
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07-09-2007 08:18
From: Angelique LaFollette Suzi, and Har as well,
Just what was it that Jumpman said that was Wrong? Despite his Manner of speech, what he said was entirely correct, The Lindens DO tend to come down hard on people deliberately Crashing sims. It IS extremely irritating when you work for hours or days on something Only to have some Cerebral Pygmy Damage or destroy what you've done by forcing a Sim Rollback. And Yes, the best way for Hoax to get around the ban WOULD be to purchase a New computer, One he WOULD be well advised to Keep his irresponsible younger sibling Away from.
I Understood him perfectly and he was quite reasonable.
Angel. Oh, this post from Jumpman was fine. But he has a history of being mostly unintelligible and extremely irritating when he is intelligible, which is what I was referencing. Maybe he's improving. And yes, he is right this time - to the extent any of us is right in giving credence to this improbable OP at all. (Personally, I think we're buying a used story from a guy named "Hoax." But it is kinda fun to play along a bit.)
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Jumpman Lane
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07-09-2007 10:25
From: Suzi Sohmers J-roc, it's way past your bedtime. Come inside now and stop irritating people. Shut up! You ain't my mama beeyotch! i can stay up as late as i want to!
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Jumpman Lane
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07-09-2007 10:27
From: Angelique LaFollette Suzi, and Har as well,
Just what was it that Jumpman said that was Wrong? Despite his Manner of speech, what he said was entirely correct, The Lindens DO tend to come down hard on people deliberately Crashing sims. It IS extremely irritating when you work for hours or days on something Only to have some Cerebral Pygmy Damage or destroy what you've done by forcing a Sim Rollback. And Yes, the best way for Hoax to get around the ban WOULD be to purchase a New computer, One he WOULD be well advised to Keep his irresponsible younger sibling Away from.
I Understood him perfectly and he was quite reasonable.
Angel. tell em again. they think sl is all fun and games! it is until you lose something! or some moron is makin noise the whole time ya tryin to make somethin!
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Jumpman Lane
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07-09-2007 10:32
From: Har Fairweather Oh, this post from Jumpman was fine. But he has a history of being mostly unintelligible and extremely irritating when he is intelligible, which is what I was referencing. Maybe he's improving. And yes, he is right this time - to the extent any of us is right in giving credence to this improbable OP at all. (Personally, I think we're buying a used story from a guy named "Hoax." But it is kinda fun to play along a bit.) shut up har...you aint a moderator...if u are lock it down then..you CAN'T stop me! i aint changin not one bit for any of you ballroom dancin, magic the gatherin playin comuter geeks! i'm a firestarter! i'll burn ya up!
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Nika Talaj
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07-09-2007 10:57
From: Jumpman Lane i aint changin not one bit for any of you ballroom dancin, magic the gatherin playin comuter geeks!
i'm a firestarter! i'll burn ya up! hehe i gotta love this! even if it's accidental "ballroom dancin, magic the gatherin comuter geeks" is a great characterization of my cute nerdy little ballroom dancin' self. And it don' matter whether he means computer or commuter, both fit!!! It's poetry! *watches her butterfly footprints fly away magically with great satisfaction* maybe jumpy is hoax's wee bro!!!! burn baby burn!
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Chris Norse
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07-09-2007 11:04
From: Nika Talaj
maybe jumpy is hoax's wee bro!!!!
burn baby burn!
Nah, not Jumpy, he is a street tough gangster from the burbs. He did time on dope charges, yes being a dope is illegal in some states.
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Alicia Sautereau
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07-09-2007 11:20
u were banned for something u didn`t do indeed, secure ur pc so an griefer could use it like said befor, wouldn`t be suprised if u *were* the same person as ur brother trying to raise symphaty like any other asshat out there does to bad they only banned the pc heh
f`ing annonimity
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Yiffy Yaffle
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07-09-2007 11:38
I can't stress the importance of this issue enough. So many people are careless with account security. If you share a computer with another person, or other people have access to it in any way or form, you should not set any login to remember your password. Passwords are meant to be a secret code that gives you access to something and blocks out anyone else who tries. It's like this for a reason. And you found out that reason already. Theres not much you can do about this since your already banned. Since someone else had access to your account, your account was being shared. Sad to say that it's a violation of the TOS just for that fact. :/
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Yiffy Yaffle
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07-09-2007 11:41
From: Hoax Zabelin My brother was on his OWN ACCOUNT when he did this, i'll edit my OP to reflect that. it says "second life cannot be accessed on this computer", he must have done something really bad  That doesn't change a whole lot. Your PC was hash banned obviously. Your PC needs to be more secure still. From: 3Ring Binder how do you fake an email address? don't you have to access the email after signing up to verify legitimacy? Only recently did LL change the account registration to require email activation. Before that, you could have used complete gibberish as a email and get right into the game.
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Kalel Venkman
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Yiffy's right..
07-09-2007 11:59
.. unfortunately in your case, the rules are pretty strict about account sharing, and in large part for this very reason. All manner of nasty things can be done in somebody else's name - it erases all possibility of accountability.
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Angelique LaFollette
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07-09-2007 14:39
From: Har Fairweather Oh, this post from Jumpman was fine. But he has a history of being mostly unintelligible and extremely irritating when he is intelligible, which is what I was referencing. Maybe he's improving. And yes, he is right this time - to the extent any of us is right in giving credence to this improbable OP at all. (Personally, I think we're buying a used story from a guy named "Hoax." But it is kinda fun to play along a bit.) Perhaps he Has acted up in the Past, But it doesn't discredit everything he says. His points were valid, and i think deserved to be heard (And yes, i saw a little glimpse of what he can be like from other posts, But i prefer to be Patient, and fair). As for Hoax, Well, there Are some inconsistenciesin his tale. As someone else pointed out, Were he Banned from the game he wouldn't be able to Post here, banned from one is banned from Both, that and i don't think he ever said whether he received any kind of E-mail notification from LL or not, though i recall someone asking him that. Even IF this situation turns out to be Merely "Hypothetical" (The most charitable term for it Lol) It's still a useful point of discussion. Comes right down to it, LL tells you to guard your password. IF, as hoax says, someone else logged in on his account, and Misbehaved, LL IS going to take action against the account, they are Not going to accept the excuse, It was my brother / sister / son / cousin / talking dog. Just think for a moment if they did, NONE of the griefers would ever be banned because the little darlings would be sprouting Fictional disfunctional relatives all over the shop. If you want to keep your accounts, GUARD your passwords. Change them occasionally and NEVER lend them out to people, Not to relatives you are not 100% trusting of, and certainly Not to anyone who is a net stranger to you. If it's true, Hoax has learned (We hope) from the hard school, he won't make this mistake again and many have been warned because of his tough lesson. If Not true, This is still a pretty d*mn good warning of what COULD happen if you aren't careful. Angel.
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07-09-2007 14:44
by chance, have you noticed those goofy green monster things absent from Rausch since this posting? just a thot.
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3Ring Binder
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07-09-2007 14:50
also, some of you guys aren't listening to Hoax. he did not let his brother use his account. the brother used his own account. so, the TOS were not betrayed. other than that, i dunno wut to think. But Jumpman is making me laff, and that is never wrong. *cheese* 
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Jumpman Lane
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07-09-2007 15:38
From: Nika Talaj hehe i gotta love this! even if it's accidental "ballroom dancin, magic the gatherin comuter geeks" is a great characterization of my cute nerdy little ballroom dancin' self. And it don' matter whether he means computer or commuter, both fit!!! It's poetry!
*watches her butterfly footprints fly away magically with great satisfaction*
maybe jumpy is hoax's wee bro!!!!
burn baby burn! naw i don't blow up sims...i like sl too much! i'm gonna trot right off to find me a pg ballroom dancin girl...see how quick i can corrupt her! cause ya'll gals can't be havin fun with those pgwalkin-talkin turd balls anyway!
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Jumpman Lane
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07-09-2007 15:42
From: Chris Norse Nah, not Jumpy, he is a street tough gangster from the burbs. He did time on dope charges, yes being a dope is illegal in some states. you lucky being a beeyotch ain't illegal...then they'd have you just where you want you ...bent over and walkin funny for LIFE...and i know you still wearin them panties you bought at auction...take that girls drawls off chrissy!
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Jumpman Lane
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07-09-2007 15:45
From: Alicia Sautereau u were banned for something u didn`t do indeed, secure ur pc so an griefer could use it like said befor, wouldn`t be suprised if u *were* the same person as ur brother trying to raise symphaty like any other asshat out there does to bad they only banned the pc heh
f`ing annonimity yup, it's all fun and games to the Lindens swoop in! aint like ya lil bro never mentioned what he was off doin in the sl....i got no sympathy at all for sliprocks! buuy a new computer...you can afford it...you could afford to be negligent with the old one!
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Jumpman Lane
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07-09-2007 15:56
From: 3Ring Binder also, some of you guys aren't listening to Hoax. he did not let his brother use his account. the brother used his own account. so, the TOS were not betrayed. other than that, i dunno wut to think. But Jumpman is making me laff, and that is never wrong. *cheese*  can't possibley EVER be 3ring... but everybody wants to be a cop! some of these small time-pork-rind-rat-fink-dime-droppin-snitches lurk around in all my posts...they cyber stalkers!lookin for something to tell... i try to slide into a thread and share pure knowledge with the world...and they come hoppin around, bendin over, beggin for a foot in the a$$! i'm tryin to maintain...not get this thread locked..cause i think it is important to realize a great thing about Linden Labs...somebody talks sh@t to ya, you abuse report it as griefin...the lindens most properly toss that crap in the circular file! but if you bring down a whole sim...they DO swoop in and ban you computer. You will get that, YOU COMPUTER CAN'T ACCESS THAT SITE MESSAGE. now you can change the mother board. you can buy a new computer...good luck with all that. But the punishment fits the crime, cause if YOU aint noticed...nothin is free in the MFSL! now you didn't do it...your lil bro did. BEAT HIS A$$...after all the $ i sunk in this game...if somebody gets on my computer and gets my motherboard banned, they gonna wear it!
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3Ring Binder
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07-09-2007 16:02
i needs an icy cold one in a frosty mug, after all that street gansta talkin'.
you a big talker, Jump. i'd whoop your ass like your momma on a hot day in June after the dog done bit her ankle.
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07-09-2007 19:24
... well, folks, welcome to todays fun-filled episode of Sock Puppet Theater.
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