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Gomez Bracken
Who said that??
Join date: 12 Apr 2007
Posts: 479
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07-08-2007 10:55
From: Hoax Zabelin my YOUNGER BROTHER faked HIS email adress for his account. My account is entirely legitimate. The only thing we share is a computer. The only thing I can add at the moment is that there has been a LOT of developments in this in the last 40 minutes, from your OP stating what you had no knowledge of anything that has happened on yours or your brothers account, to you both having an exchange of tickets from LL and knowing the "loopholes" of how to sign up alt accounts without getting verified "like greifers do"... It would have helped if this was in the OP and would have saved up time in thinking of reasons why it could be happening... Not doubting your word - but you seem to have gained a lot of knowledge about the situation in the last 40 minutes from LL and your brother... Gomez
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Hoax Zabelin
Registered User
Join date: 5 Jul 2007
Posts: 31
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07-08-2007 11:09
From: Gomez Bracken The only thing I can add at the moment is that there has been a LOT of developments in this in the last 40 minutes, from your OP stating what you had no knowledge of anything that has happened on yours or your brothers account, to you both having an exchange of tickets from LL and knowing the "loopholes" of how to sign up alt accounts without getting verified "like greifers do"...
It would have helped if this was in the OP and would have saved up time in thinking of reasons why it could be happening...
Not doubting your word - but you seem to have gained a lot of knowledge about the situation in the last 40 minutes from LL and your brother...
Gomez This has been happening slowly over the past 3 days, i think my brother had to do with the furnation raid or something.
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Elex Dusk
Bunneh
Join date: 19 Oct 2004
Posts: 800
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07-08-2007 11:09
From: Gomez Bracken Not doubting your word - but you seem to have gained a lot of knowledge about the situation in the last 40 minutes from LL and your brother... Yeah, I also have a hard time doubting a person named "Hoax" who just so happens to have a griefing, ice cream-eating lesbian brother. But just imagine the novelty cake at the birthday party.
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Wilhelm Neumann
Runs with Crayons
Join date: 20 Apr 2006
Posts: 2,204
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07-08-2007 11:14
you need to change your ip address and put a padlock on your computer actually its not to hard to change the ip of your computer but it does cost money and when you do it dont allow him access use a mechanism to lock the keyboard and password protect your computer in the bios and using windows (windows sucks theer is a simple way to get around passwords but it doesn't hurt)
If your brother is a self proclaimed griefer sharing computers which him is a mistake if they can isolate you ip address which on a lot of high speed accounts is not hard then your computer is no longer usable in sl unless you take measure to change this
in other words you need the ip of your router changed and possibly of the computer changed so you need new parts
myself my computers are set up so they each have two ip's beacuse I have been blocked for silly reasons in other situations on occassion ie: my voip went nuts (no one informed me of such and the company responsible for upgrading the firmware didn't and it broke internet connections with constatn requests. I got no emails saying that it was constantly pinging and requesting to refresh its connection at the change of the year but I did get a "banned" for several days. I had to go to the voip provider chastize them and get them to change the ip addresses of the machines (send me new equipment) write a letter to the isp and update the firmware on the new routers and tell me in writing signed in blood they did it) so it is possible to change your ip address if need be.
probably changing your router will fix this if your avatar is not banned that is. If your avatar is not banned (and i'm assuming not because your posting to this forum) then you will then be able to accss the game. The fact that you are letting your brother continue to access the computer however will not make Linden Lab unblock you so basically your brother can'tuse your computer for playing second life.
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Elex Dusk
Bunneh
Join date: 19 Oct 2004
Posts: 800
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07-08-2007 11:17
From: Hoax Zabelin This has been happening slowly over the past 3 days, i think my brother had to do with the furnation raid or something. Is there a parent or guardian in the household that can sit both of you down and explain that the Internet is not a toy? Okay... yes, yes... we understand that you can't get into SL at present and that it's a bad bad thing possibly caused by another person in the household... however, we can't provide certain solutions as, in the event of future griefing, it might be considered an exploit and cause the person who elaborated on how to go about it to be banned. One possibility, as you're both (hopefully) over the age of 18 would be to move to opposite ends of the Earth. That way you don't have to take any heat about his actions in the future.
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Hoax Zabelin
Registered User
Join date: 5 Jul 2007
Posts: 31
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07-08-2007 11:19
From: Elex Dusk Yeah, I also have a hard time doubting a person named "Hoax" who just so happens to have a griefing, ice cream-eating lesbian brother.
But just imagine the novelty cake at the birthday party. He tells me it's just for throw away accounts, and not because he likes ben&jerry's or the L word. I'm not exactly sure WHY he's spilling his guts out, i guess he's just angry about getting banned :|
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Gomez Bracken
Who said that??
Join date: 12 Apr 2007
Posts: 479
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07-08-2007 11:26
From: Hoax Zabelin i guess he's just angry about getting banned :| Well, what goes around - comes around... He's angry for HIS fun being spoiled - now maybe he gets an idea of how the people he targets his griefing on feel. Gomez
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Elex Dusk
Bunneh
Join date: 19 Oct 2004
Posts: 800
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07-08-2007 11:26
From: Hoax Zabelin He tells me it's just for throw away accounts, and not because he likes ben&jerry's or the L word.
I'm not exactly sure WHY he's spilling his guts out, i guess he's just angry about getting banned :| Yeah, we all understand why he'd be upset about getting banned. Due to his own actions of disrupting the Second Lives of other residents and crashing sims it's not like it was his fault. He just happened to spasmodically smack away at his keyboard while pondering a line of dialogue on The L Word or possibly from Cherry Garcia-induced brain freeze.
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Deej Kasshiki
Dangerously Cute
Join date: 2 Oct 2006
Posts: 90
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07-08-2007 11:30
Elex you win the witty post of the day award!
Hoax, if your post is legit you should now terminate your brother with extreme prejudice. A lifetime ban from your computer and monetary compensation for all your SL stuff that you are about to lose seems appropriate. Shame on him and his griefing butthole buddies for attacking FurNation.
If you are lying, then I'm glad you got IP banned. Good to see LL doing a sweep to crack down on the rampant alt abuse.
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Hoax Zabelin
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07-08-2007 11:42
good news! i can get on this avatar from another computer!
MY brother isn't going to be using it, or my computer for a long long time. looks like he needs to get used to console games (maybe he can crash them instead of SL?)
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Maggie McArdle
FIOS hates puppies
Join date: 8 May 2006
Posts: 2,855
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07-08-2007 11:48
From: Hoax Zabelin It seems my younger brother got onto my account and did something...well...strange. When i logged into my account earlier today i was banned. I'm not exactly sure what type of ban, but it seems serious because when i log it, it says "second life cannot be accessed on this computer". I know for a fact that i did nothing bannable, the last time i was online, i had just purchased a very nice space cruiser, and was tooling around with it. I was out with some friends for most of today, and attempted to log in around 9pm eastern time. My brother denies getting onto my computer, but i can tell he's lying. I trust him to be competent on the internet, and thus i have been lax about security measures, which i now gravely regret. He has his own second life account, which i trust him not to do anything bannable with. IT seems he has now crossed the line. I was working on a very important model.
Has anyone else been banned out of the blue? and if so, what can i do to get it appealed? I'm desperate there!
-(as a side note, my brother was on a SEPPERATE ACCOUNT when he did whatever it is he did. We only share computers.)
-I have already sent some support tickets, my younger brother's ticket was responded to saying he crashed a sim (he admits to it now), and mine is still ongoing. I also submitted a ban appeal to the abuse reporting team (i got the abuse reporting team email in the "solution provided" email saying my brother had broken the TOS, i guess they also deal with ban appeals). You may have gotten this answer already but here it goes: i too have gotten that reply, and my solution to it was to reboot my computer, then do a clean reinstall of the game, make sure you get that folder in Your program files s well and delete it too. then reboot your computer again. that should take care of that.in my case it was a glitch..however if you continue to get that message make sure you keep sending in the support tickets..squeaky wheel gets the grease...i hope that helps though and keep your brother off you puter 
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Har Fairweather
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Join date: 24 Jan 2007
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07-08-2007 11:54
From: Hoax Zabelin good news! i can get on this avatar from another computer!
MY brother isn't going to be using it, or my computer for a long long time. looks like he needs to get used to console games (maybe he can crash them instead of SL?) Oddity: The Hoax Zabelin account was born 6/25/07, so is not much older than the alleged brother's alleged griefer accounts. I can't help wondering about the choice of first name myself...
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milady Guillaume
Shhhh, I'm researching!
Join date: 28 Dec 2003
Posts: 696
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07-08-2007 11:58
Solution to the problem, sell your brother for some ice cream!
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Hoax Zabelin
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Join date: 5 Jul 2007
Posts: 31
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07-08-2007 12:49
From: milady Guillaume Solution to the problem, sell your brother for some ice cream! good plan! i'll be on the first place to china!
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RobbyRacoon Olmstead
Red warrior is hungry!
Join date: 20 Sep 2006
Posts: 1,821
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07-08-2007 13:07
From: Hoax Zabelin This has been happening slowly over the past 3 days, i think my brother had to do with the furnation raid or something. Little brother FTW!!! I love "little brother" threads, they always make me chuckle. As an admin on a couple different islands, I'm always amazed at how many "little brother" excuses I hear from griefers. "It wasn't me, it was my little brother, can you unban me?" I think it's in the griefer handbook, or something. .
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Hoax Zabelin
Registered User
Join date: 5 Jul 2007
Posts: 31
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07-08-2007 13:15
From: RobbyRacoon Olmstead Little brother FTW!!! I love "little brother" threads, they always make me chuckle. As an admin on a couple different islands, I'm always amazed at how many "little brother" excuses I hear from griefers. "It wasn't me, it was my little brother, can you unban me?" I think it's in the griefer handbook, or something.
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Schwanson Schlegel
SL's Tokin' Villain
Join date: 15 Nov 2003
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07-08-2007 13:31
From: Elex Dusk Yeah, I also have a hard time doubting a person named "Hoax" who just so happens to have a griefing, ice cream-eating lesbian brother. But just imagine the novelty cake at the birthday party. 
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Jannae Karas
Just Looking
Join date: 10 Mar 2007
Posts: 1,516
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Brothers
07-08-2007 15:05
From: RobbyRacoon Olmstead Little brother FTW!!! I love "little brother" threads, they always make me chuckle. As an admin on a couple different islands, I'm always amazed at how many "little brother" excuses I hear from griefers. "It wasn't me, it was my little brother, can you unban me?" I think it's in the griefer handbook, or something.
. I have a big brother and a younger sister (yes, we are all adults) that are residents. So far they seem to have done nothing that I know of to embarass me.
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RobbyRacoon Olmstead
Red warrior is hungry!
Join date: 20 Sep 2006
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07-08-2007 15:22
From: Jannae Karas I have a big brother and a younger sister (yes, we are all adults) that are residents. So far they seem to have done nothing that I know of to embarass me. Wonderful! I suspect that my sister would do quite a bit to embarrass me if I let her, despite being only two years younger than me, which is why I would never ever under even the most outrageous circumstances let her use my account. At least this particular "little brother" thread doesn't say the brother was using the same account, though most are along the lines of "my little brother broke into my account and got me banned from everywhere". Then again, since my sister and I are adults with our own families and our own respective households, we also don't share an IP address as the OP seems to be indicating. If it's true that the little brother did "Bad Things"™, then I have to wonder a little bit about whether either one is an adult. .
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Zaphod Kotobide
zOMGWTFPME!
Join date: 19 Oct 2006
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07-08-2007 15:49
OTOH, it is true that some people never grow up. "Little brother" could in reality be 29 years old, and scared shitless at the prospect of turning 30. Juvenile pranks online are a fun, safe way for an "adult" to reaffirm his/her youth. Not that I believe for a milisecond that little brother in this case is a day older than 16. From: RobbyRacoon Olmstead If it's true that the little brother did "Bad Things"™, then I have to wonder a little bit about whether either one is an adult. .
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Farallon Greyskin
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07-08-2007 17:49
Didn't see this mentioned as I skimmed though, but there is also the possibility that no one did anything wrong.
I know 3 people now that have gotten their computer "banned" by mac address and NONE of them did anything wrong.
Either there are a ton of network cards out there using duplicate mac adddresses or LL's method of blocking them is quite error prone.
In every case a call into LL (A chore yes) solved the problem.
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Chris Norse
Loud Arrogant Redneck
Join date: 1 Oct 2006
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07-08-2007 17:52
From: Farallon Greyskin Didn't see this mentioned as I skimmed though, but there is also the possibility that no one did anything wrong.
I know 3 people now that have gotten their computer "banned" by mac address and NONE of them did anything wrong.
Either there are a ton of network cards out there using duplicate mac adddresses or LL's method of blocking them is quite error prone.
In every case a call into LL (A chore yes) solved the problem. Well he says his "little brother" is a griefer, so the odds of it being a tech screw up are slim and none. 
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Jumpman Lane
JUMPY!!!
Join date: 7 May 2007
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07-08-2007 18:10
lindens let ya do what ya want, EXCEPT crash a whole sim! The whole place is so laggy and crash prone, I personally ain;t got much sympathy for ya...
ya lil bro, traipsing around the mfsl, wrecking crap that takes hours and days to put together...
buy a new computer...thst's what ya do! let ya lil bro use that! get that one banned too!
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Har Fairweather
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07-08-2007 18:14
From: Jumpman Lane lindens let ya do what ya want, EXCEPT crash a whole sim! The whole place is so laggy and crash prone, I personally ain;t got much sympathy for ya...
ya lil bro, traipsing around the mfsl, wrecking crap that takes hours and days to put together...
buy a new computer...thst's what ya do! let ya lil bro use that! get that one banned too! He's baaaa-aaack!
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Suzi Sohmers
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Join date: 4 Oct 2006
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07-08-2007 18:21
From: Jumpman Lane lindens let ya do what ya want, EXCEPT crash a whole sim! The whole place is so laggy and crash prone, I personally ain;t got much sympathy for ya...
ya lil bro, traipsing around the mfsl, wrecking crap that takes hours and days to put together...
buy a new computer...thst's what ya do! let ya lil bro use that! get that one banned too! J-roc, it's way past your bedtime. Come inside now and stop irritating people.
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