It's a shame the message that one gets if one tries to log in with the old viewer is so uninformative. It would be interesting to see what percentage of existing users would and would not pick the voice client if they were fully informed. The "new version" message I got didn't mention voice at all, althouth I already knew what was going on.
The download page also doesn't offer a choice, and there's no "change to a different viewer" option in the SL interface. If there were, then one might get a better idea of whether people really want voice or not.
What are the topics of conversation that you are seeing at the new user hangouts like the Ahern welcome area and Waterhead?
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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08-03-2007 05:39
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Reitsuki Kojima
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Join date: 27 Jan 2004
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08-03-2007 05:43
Me, I haven't. Thank bloody hell I read the forums before I tried to log in, and knew what the "recommended download" was.
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Gina Jacks
Registered User
Join date: 20 Dec 2006
Posts: 181
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08-03-2007 05:47
I haven't. I learnt from experience that updates usually downgrade your pleasure.
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Chas Connolly
Registered User
Join date: 24 Jan 2007
Posts: 1,433
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08-03-2007 05:52
I had a quick look, which I thought was rather brave of me, then coward that I am quickly fled back to the Nicholaz viewer. It was a horrible, horrible experience and one I hope never to repeat.
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Alexandra Rucker
Metamorph
Join date: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 71
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08-03-2007 05:54
I did, but I keep older versions of the viewer, so I can backlevel easily.
I only downloaded it long enough to turn OFF voice on my parcel, then reinstalled the older version. |
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Raudf Fox
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Join date: 25 Feb 2005
Posts: 5,119
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08-03-2007 05:55
I downloaded it.. but haven't installed. I'm not sure I will be installing at this point.
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Sally Silvera
live music maniac
Join date: 17 Feb 2007
Posts: 2,325
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08-03-2007 06:02
I downloaded out of curiosity, had a look, uninstalled it again.
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Jeza May
Owner of Jade Innovations
Join date: 16 Oct 2006
Posts: 317
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08-03-2007 06:04
I didn't lol.. I always check the uninformative blog first before I download an optional viewer lol.. Looks like it was a good thing I didn't lol
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Chas Connolly
Registered User
Join date: 24 Jan 2007
Posts: 1,433
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08-03-2007 06:24
I downloaded out of curiosity, had a look, uninstalled it again. How was your hair? Mine looked REALLY bad with the new viewer. Couldn't do a thing with it. |
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Morwen Bunin
Everybody needs a hero!
Join date: 8 Dec 2005
Posts: 1,743
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08-03-2007 06:25
I will download it tonight at home and make sure voice is turned off on my land. I will take a small look at the new features... and then I will switch most likely back to the old viewer.
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Sally Silvera
live music maniac
Join date: 17 Feb 2007
Posts: 2,325
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08-03-2007 06:26
How was your hair? Mine looked REALLY bad with the new viewer. Couldn't do a thing with it. Huh, guess the new viewer didn't change anything for you then  |
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Czari Zenovka
I've Had it With "PC"!
Join date: 3 May 2007
Posts: 3,688
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Horrible Interface
08-03-2007 07:12
It's a shame the message that one gets if one tries to log in with the old viewer is so uninformative. It would be interesting to see what percentage of existing users would and would not pick the voice client if they were fully informed. The "new version" message I got didn't mention voice at all, althouth I already knew what was going on. The download page also doesn't offer a choice, and there's no "change to a different viewer" option in the SL interface. If there were, then one might get a better idea of whether people really want voice or not. What are the topics of conversation that you are seeing at the new user hangouts like the Ahern welcome area and Waterhead? Totally agree! I downloaded the new viewer thinking it was a typical "update" - no idea this was the client that supported voice and, even if I had known that, would have had NO idea the interface would change so drastically. I was horrified to log in and at first glance couldn't find my friends list. Finally found it...but then the chat, IM, and friends list are all interconnected. The chat/IM windows are huge...and cannot be resized vertically. Then there's the additional sound icon that obliterated the spot I had my Mystitool Hud - as well as the giant chat boxes overlapping my ZHAO. Fortunately a friend signed in about that time and pointed me to the addy to get the original viewer back. (http://s3.amazonaws.com/download-secondlife-com/Second%20Life%201-18-0-6%20Setup.exe) Whew...back to normal. I don't have anything particularly against voice being an optional feature for those who enjoy that. I don't plan on using it. But surely voice could be added without the major use of screen real estate!! |
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Maklin Deckard
Disillusioned
Join date: 9 Apr 2005
Posts: 459
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08-03-2007 07:19
It's a shame the message that one gets if one tries to log in with the old viewer is so uninformative. It would be interesting to see what percentage of existing users would and would not pick the voice client if they were fully informed. The "new version" message I got didn't mention voice at all, althouth I already knew what was going on. The download page also doesn't offer a choice, and there's no "change to a different viewer" option in the SL interface. If there were, then one might get a better idea of whether people really want voice or not. What are the topics of conversation that you are seeing at the new user hangouts like the Ahern welcome area and Waterhead? I did it by accident, thinking after the last week it WAS a stability and performance patch....>WRONG< Thankfully, a kind person here in the forums posted the link to the old client and I upgraded back to the previous client. |
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Arua Rotaru
Registered User
Join date: 28 Jun 2007
Posts: 390
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08-03-2007 07:48
i havent only because my soundcard died last weekend and i am getting my new one today once its installed ill download the new viewer anxious to test voice out and talk to my friends i havent talked to in a few months since i had to put in a new hd and have been to lazy to install skype lol
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Markubis Brentano
Hi...YAH!!
Join date: 15 Apr 2006
Posts: 836
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08-03-2007 07:49
I haven't downloaded it.
I've learned my lessons. I will wait until I'm forced to DL it...unitl then, I'll keep hitting the "please drive though" button. |
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Atashi Yue
Registered User
Join date: 24 Jan 2007
Posts: 703
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08-03-2007 07:53
Totally agree! I downloaded the new viewer thinking it was a typical "update" - no idea this was the client that supported voice and, even if I had known that, would have had NO idea the interface would change so drastically. I was horrified to log in and at first glance couldn't find my friends list. Finally found it...but then the chat, IM, and friends list are all interconnected. The chat/IM windows are huge...and cannot be resized vertically. Then there's the additional sound icon that obliterated the spot I had my Mystitool Hud - as well as the giant chat boxes overlapping my ZHAO. Fortunately a friend signed in about that time and pointed me to the addy to get the original viewer back. (http://s3.amazonaws.com/download-secondlife-com/Second%20Life%201-18-0-6%20Setup.exe) Whew...back to normal. I don't have anything particularly against voice being an optional feature for those who enjoy that. I don't plan on using it. But surely voice could be added without the major use of screen real estate!! The window can be resized vertically, down to 4 lines of text. |
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Rachel Steiner
Registered User
Join date: 25 Aug 2006
Posts: 14
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Not downloaded
08-03-2007 07:53
Nope not downloaded it and wont until iv got too, iv learned in the past if something isnt broke DONT try and fix it..hmm shame the lindens dont try and get the main issues fixed before they add more to the poor sagging SL system.
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Ceera Murakami
Texture Artist / Builder
Join date: 9 Sep 2005
Posts: 7,750
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08-03-2007 07:55
I kept my old copies of the previous viewer, and just downloaded a seperate copy of the new one from the website. So far I have used the new one primarily to ban Voice from my land, and to determine that I now need to go from an 800 x 600 window to an 800 x 900 window to retain any sense of usability, because of the bloated Chatterbox UI. *sigh*
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Nina Stepford
was lied to by LL
Join date: 26 Mar 2007
Posts: 3,373
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08-03-2007 07:57
as long as nicholaz keeps building viewers i will never use the official client.
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Sonia Nagy
Registered User
Join date: 25 Mar 2007
Posts: 364
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08-03-2007 08:08
I have never downloaded and installed an "optional" SL supplied viewer. Though I did play with the First Look voice thingie (just to see how my bad hearing be in that environment - I couldn't hear the one man talking (I could hear that he was talking, just couldn't understand him), but I could hear the woman, most of the time; I wore a tag that said something like "trying voice, but I am mute"
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Ann Launay
Neko-licious™
Join date: 8 Aug 2006
Posts: 7,893
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08-03-2007 08:09
*raises hand*
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Aree Lulibub
Registered User
Join date: 21 Jan 2007
Posts: 198
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08-03-2007 08:29
as long as nicholaz keeps building viewers i will never use the official client. What is this "Nicholaz" viewer I keep hearing about? |
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Ann Launay
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Join date: 8 Aug 2006
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08-03-2007 08:38
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Marianne McCann
Feted Inner Child
Join date: 23 Feb 2006
Posts: 7,145
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08-03-2007 08:47
I never download an optional until I read through here for a day or two, and see what other users are saying. This since a long while back when one optional broke Mac connectivity.
Also, I don't intend to use voice, so I don't have a good reason to download it anyway. Mari _____________________
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SqueezeOne Pow
World Changer
Join date: 21 Dec 2005
Posts: 1,437
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08-03-2007 08:51
as long as nicholaz keeps building viewers i will never use the official client. How will you guys be able to hide in fear of new features if Nicolaz includes voice into his viewer? "I'm afraid of the future!" -Grandpa Simpson _____________________
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