Are Bots Disproportionate

Well as LL have now released the client as open source, there is nothing stopping anyone using it, driven by a few scripts off game, to actually perform a legit bot. The script can check the account at hourly intervals to make sure it is still logged in and then would cause 99% less load on the servers, than a 'live person'.

You could and would have more support if you in fact dealt with things more effectively and I will repeat posting threads and when people make their comments and telling them they are off topic and reported is not a way to gain support but to look silly and that is what has happenned here

/shrug

Yea that means anything goes now ! free for all! A scary world its going to become.

If this is allowed to continue, eventually the big companies will put a bot in every sim. This is a very steep, slippery slope.

In the latter of 2004 and early 2005, There was a global land scanner system. It raised alot of eyebrows, mainly because it was sending objects on every sim on the grid and using people's land without their permission.
Such a system would be difficult to run nowadays, because since then, LL has introduced higher ban lines, restricted scripting and limited object entry.



Good point.

A year ago, LL removed public land from the grid and thus nullified global land systems. I was put out of work and had to re-adapt.

I think it's completely hypocritical of LL to permit a worse system than the one they nerfed.

I was not the only scanner, the tools used were available to anyone in Second Life (ie) a simple script and were running from land I owned. I did not have access to the entire grid. Since then, Governor Linden has taken the abandoned land business into thier own coffers, which causes land to sit in unpaid tier for extended periods. Guy Linden goes around and cleans off the premium parcels for auction while the smaller lots now go exclusively to bots.

What used to be a fully automated system, now requires alot of extra manpower from LL staff and yet the end result, is the land going to bots at the same price we paid then. I resold the land cheap (as any baron will attest) so they could make a profit too. Unlike bots, who mainly sell the land for as much as the end market can handle.

To add insult to injury now, what used to be "First Land", now goes to bots too.

Tell me, you cannot see alot of irony in this? The main difference being, while I scanned, the land market continued as it always did and continued as such for another year.

It's a classic case of robbing Peter to pay Paul, and I was greatly affected by the changes and this is one of the reasons I am calling foul today, when it comes to landbots.

Actually... YES, I would like Resident Answers to be limited to just residents asking residents for help. [edit: Clarification: I would like NEW THREADS in Resident Answers to be limited to "Residents Asking Residents for Help." as the guidelines implies is intended to be for SL usage and how-to's.]

you need to get over it and stop blaming bots for your failure

okay i dont and am not reading the threads the forums are flooded with them i am commenting on the fact there are too many of them and its going to and IS having a negative impact and as you can see from the posts in this thread about people saying too many threads its pretty obvious the same pairs or eyes are repeatedly coming to these forums remember forums have a very low readership in proportion to the actualy gaming population. So yes there are too many bot threads being started per day also not much common sense is needed with regard to saturating forums with a topic people just stop reading period. Again i'm not actually reading the thread I am opening the forum and seeing more bot threads and commenting on the fact that its overkill and your hurting your cause not likely helping it. In short its quite obvious you can't be reasoned with. Your on a crusade no one can speak to you guys about possibly more effective ways to get the message out when the bulk of the population is not here but elsewhere. If you have ever found a game or platform where 100% of the players who use the game regularly = 100% of the forum readers/posters then this would be a boon and I would give you a medal for being the first human being to achieve this.

you need to get over it and stop blaming bots for your failure

Trolls don't really care about issues, they care about grabbing attention on the backs of other's issues.

They don't care that people's livelyhoods are taken away by people who couldn't care less about SL other than to greed, but post about it on a forum, they scream bloody murder.

There have been several posts where the proponents of landbots claim to represent the average user while dismissing the claims of the anti-landbot lobby.

So to prove them wrong, a few of the questions were put to the population for answers as polls.

The polls have clearly indicated, the majority of residents do not like landbots and agree the use of them is selfish and disproportionate. When the reality of the facts slap them in the face, they ultimately resort to the lowest common denominator by suggesting we have no right to particpate in the forums.

Then when the polls really go really bad for them, they use the age old tactic of personal attacks and pissing matches to get the thread locked.

1- Ideal for putting a secured landbot in every sim.

Another aspect to this is one of competition.

If Landbots make it so theres only 3-4 Landbot operators gettting 99% of the buisness-

As opposed to 10-15 Land Barons,

Then we have a condition of Collusion. Where the whole industry is benefiting a proportonately decreasing number of individuals.

Since humans have limits as SL got bigger we needed more land barons.

A bot, however, isnt a human. An owner can run multiple bots. Thus money becomes concetrated.

If this happens then we have an undesirable condition unrelated to the technology. Lack of ompetition is bad. Period.

I agree lack of competition is a very bad thing, but at the top of the land market in SL, competition is actually bad. You have so many compettitors bidding on sims to chop up and sell to flippers that the price is always high.

Sims are auctioned...to make LL money.

Dont know that competition is bad.

Competition driving up the bid prices seems a negative though.

I never understood why Sims are auctioned and private islands are a flat rate, except to make LL money.

Pardon the edit to make a point.

Its okay -

It occurs to me then, Linden Labs is actually the SOURCE of the Land baron and Land Botter "Greed" so many rail against.

If they went to a flat price structure land prices would stabilize somewhat- would they not?

Interestingly, not long ago on the "Business Opportunities" page of the Second Life website, "Land Dealer" was listed. It's not there now.

Well i'm sorry, but I think LL does know what causes load on their infrastructure and deals with those things accordingly.

Fine this is your opinion. But you are not a grid monkey so you don't know.

That just is not happening

Yeah, because they've done such a MARVELOUS job of that so far.

Get real. The program is barely usuable frequently, and vital components are basically broken much of the tme.

Were you trying to be ironic?