When To AR? (sexual ageplay)

I would add that nobody is being compelled to report anything. This is completely at your discretion to report, or not. There doesn't need to be 10 pages added to this thread to bear this out. Nobody is required to report their neighbor.

To expand on this, and this is another reason I asked this question:

Someone browsing through the freebie area recently (since the announcement) saw a loli AV there. He declared that anyone who would wear such a thing was "ill" and that he intended to contact the Lindens. His words.

There were are the least three loli av's present at the time.

Now, this person, if he did as he said, sent an ar to LL on the basis that there is an underage av available at this location.

To me this is intolerance.

Yes thats why I made my post -

the title of this thread kind of concerned me.

People have often told me if you know about a minor on the grid you are required to report them.

I have been told that also.

If you go into a bar and see somebody you know is not of legal drinking age, are you required to report them?

What would happen if they got drunk then got in an accident and it came out that you knew they were there drinking beforehand?

yes - a real minor sitting at home in front of their computer - not a young looking AV

Theres a difference between being responsible and turning someone in who is a danger to themselves and others.

And being required to turn people in.

Theres is that distinction yes - however - that distinction doesnt automatically mean that they wont require you to turn in Sexual Ageplay.

As of yet theres nothing to say that you have to hence my post and these follow ups.

There might be people who feel they are obligated by LL to turn in Sexual Ageplay if they know its happening.

What about when there is only one avatar involved? I came across a "blow up doll" who looked like maybe 1-2 years old. It was basically an baby that you could "do things to". I ARed the maker and got the usual response.

Just because only one person is involved it doesnt make it right?
The same maker also sold "blow up dolls" of women next to this babyfigure, so besides the description suggesting what this baby was for, there wasnt really any doubt.

To me, thats still "ageplay" or pedophilia.

I suggest you don't look at it and go home. By the way pedophillia is a mental disorder, like depression, and being mentally ill isn't illegal anywhere that I know of. Please don't use the term pedophillia to describe things you don't like to see in SL unless you have done a professionial evaluation of the creater. The term is meant to describe a mental disorder and not an activity.

Read my post to the end, i didn't bother to write it so you can use the ultimate stupid argument "because it's wrong"

parachutes in, hugs Kyrah, and jetpacks out again to a safe distance.

(Kyrahphilia can strike without notice... often when you least expect it.)

What really BOTHERS me about all this is that we had this same damn discussion in this forum MONTHS ago, and the Lindens now act like it's the first time any adult/child av sex has happened in SL. Have they read the escort walls? I can find an escort willing to be a child av for sex in a heartbeat!

It just makes me mad. They've know all this time that this type of behavior was ongoing and they did nothing, then they ban folks and start all this age verification which many of us in the forum have been discussing for MONTHS.

I'm fed up with the whole mess.

I don't think they ever had intentions of banning it, right now they want to cover their asses in front of aggressive medias, not sink into some tight assed vision of freedom of expression.

I have to agree with Kyrah's post for the most part. But I also agree with Sindy's point. Yes a drawing, cartoon or any such thing showing children having sex is unpleasant, and something I don't need to see. But so are many other images, and art forms, (Piss Christ, anyone). Hell a Celine Dion song makes me nauseous. But I am in the camp that believe these are not real children being harmed, just as no Avatar in SL is a real person in that sense. No Child, No child abuse. Just my opinion.

That's the whole ballgame there. It wasn't an issue until the doo doo got into THEIR sandbox.

That little red riding hood av is part of the "Library" folder- you can't delete it.

yea i know i was just being sarcastic mostly

I will fix up the post

Hi Crucial long time no talk to. I will not only be removing my Little Red Riding Hood but also my Tinkerbell Fairy av as that is surely a sign that I am a child abuser in first life.

Kind of sad that you- we- have to even worry about such things as "What's in my inventory that's incriminating?"

My opinion: AR whenever you feel "uncomfortable." (defined solely by the person filing the AR.) Let the Lindens sort it out. It will be interesting to see if 'ageplay' ARs are answered more rapidly than other types.

[edit: clarified first sentence]

Woah, hold on. Slow down. Firstly, it hasn't been proven that pedophillia is a mental disorder. A few psychologists have said that, others disagree. And just because someone has a mental disorder, doesn't justify it or make it right.

Through your justification that because being mentally ill isn't illegal, that's true. It's the act thereof that can make it illegal. If I kill someone because I'm mentally insane, I could plead insanity...and maybe get off...but I'd spend the rest of my life in a mental institution. While that person may be "sick", well hell...that means that stalkers who are insane could stalk you and say, threaten you over the internet, and does that mean that the Lindens can ignore it because it's not illegal?

Wow that abc news story reminds me of how they were saying that Grand Theft Auto will cause more crimes and shootings at schools. Just because the mind thinks poorly from time to time doesn't mean someone will actually do the bad deed. In fact, I think its better that it would be done on a game than the real thing. With all of the violent movies and games out there you would think that crime would be out of control.
Then again I'm not sure where I stand on this issue of Sexual Ageplay in SL. If it was kept private and both consenting people could prove to each other they were of age and they really wanted to do it go ahead. What's going to stop two people in their Real Life private homes from playing around a bit. The thing with Second Life though, its not private. Many people find it highly disgusting. Yet I still gotta wonder why someone would be on someone's land up by their private skybox watching anyways.
Also there are some gray areas too. What's the difference between an 17 year old avatar and an 18 year old avatar?? What about height?? Unless its really obvious, just move on I'd say. What about a 21 year old dressed in a younger looking outfit. Then also the small fantasy creatures. I would be very upset if someone ARd my shorter AV which is actually normal real life height just because I might be short and dressed really young looking with pigtails.
I also worry that this could lead to other areas and we will start seeing things disappear that make second life what it is "Your World, Your Imagination" It will now be "Your World, No Imagination"

Your world, We Police.

So far the Imagination police havent stopped me and ordered me to patrol the grid for them. I may file an AR against someone for setting off a prim replication grief machine, but I wouldnt bother filing an AR for the content of someone elses fantasy life. Would I write somebody up for a bunch of RL kiddie porn shots on the wall? Absolutely. Would I file an AR on adults doing 'whatever' dressed as cartoon 'what-have-you's'? Nah. Do what you want, just keep it in your head ya pervs.