Montana Man and the Importance of Clothing....or not...

It was a NUDIST BEACH FFS!!!!!!

*exasperated*

/me facepalms . . .

Why bother asking when I just KNEW that MM was going to spill his guts to you, and that his every "hurt feeling" would be splayed across the forum the next day?

See what I mean???

Montana Man is reading this Scylla! Cut him some slack. He's working on it. But I asked a few of my guy friends to come help him out, and they said no way are they going to help him modify his thing on the nude beach, and I better not send him over to their place to have it looked at either. Do guys not help each other with this stuff?

He's trying, Elric. His allowance does not come due again, until next week....so he visited some places for potential "employment." Unfortunately, part of the job requires showing it off....so he's back to square one. And he dropped the remainder of his allowance into the tip jars, while scouting out jobs.

No.

Ok, time to set the record straight here . . .

1) I did NOT disparage MM's equipment. I gently and helpfully pointed (for his FUTURE good!) that his bits did not match. Contrary to some of the rumours I've been hearing, I did NOT suggest that it looked like it was attached with Velcro. And I'm pretty sure that neither of the words "leprous" nor "albino" once crossed my lips . . .

2) I said many very nice things about MM's clothing before suggesting that he strip down. (And, in truth, he did look quite nice. I particularly complimented him on his hair, as I recall.) But did he ONCE say anything nice about what I was wearing? Hmmmmm? Nooooo!

3) With regard to the speed with which we disrobed, it should be pointed out -- again -- that we were on a NUDE BEACH. And that, as nice as the outfit that MM was wearing was, it was hardly suitably to our surroundings. To be honest, it was more out of concern for him that I suggested a speedy disencumbering of our clothes, than anything else: I was concerned that he'd be uncomfortable getting sand in his socks, pockets, and . . . elsewhere.

4) Yes, while it IS true that another Manly Man did show up on the scene, the suggestion that I disappeared with the new arrival is UTTER CALUMNY!! In fact, MM excused HIMSELF, with the express and admitted purpose of testing out his new wares on ANOTHER young woman who was nearby.

How do you suppose that made ME feel? Hmmmmm?

5) Yes, I do have pictures, but please stop PMing me about them! They are NOT for random circulation, you bunch of creepy voyeurs!

I am in fact in the midst of negotiation with Slut Magazine: when they are published there (following a successful conclusion of compensation talks with Jumpy), you'll all be able to gawk to your heart's content.

6)
THIS!!!!!!!!!

I think he needs a sugar-mama.

Perhaps he can persuade with some cunning linguistics and a promise of things to come for a make-over/fine tuning? Or would that be a blow to his pride?

Maybe if he was wearing a sock RHCP style.

Yeah, that'd probably do the same thing . . .

When I saw him, though, he seemed to have his socks on his feet.

POINTING is Rude! There were other women around, and he was already running low on the confidence meter. You knew this in advance, before he even arrived, when he repeatedly told you that he had concerns about how his ass looked in jeans.



Give the guy a break. He had been out wandering about for days, and complimenting women on their style and clothing selections.....and just about every single time he said something....they accused him of hitting on them! He was just being nice. He was afraid that if he complimented you....that you would think the same thing. What's a guy to do? You can't win - either way.



Dude is shy! Could he not just work into it....and take off the jacket and tie for a few minutes....then maybe the shirt? 15 minutes to work into it? Could you not give Dude 15 minutes?



Well...the way he explained this to me is.....that he was intimidated by the other guy. The only way to prove his masculinity was to approach the other woman, and show you that his thing did not matter, and that he could do perfectly fine with his wits and charm, and did not have to rely on his thing. But when he complimented her on her red dress....she replied that it was orange....and he explained that a lot of men are color blind.....but she cut him about as much slack as you did. Then, her boyfriend appeared out of the blue....and it was a difficult situation there, for a few minutes. Boyfriend was not happy to see him standing there naked, while his lady was fully clothed. There were some "issues" to resolve. Montana Man had his hands full, and you looked perfectly content lounging on the beach with the other Manly Man.



Montana Man told me that you PROMISED not to take pics! This is a LOW tactic.

Very nice, very wise. Every battle is not worth fighting. That's wisdom that only comes with experience, usually the hard way. (Nothing to see here, move along...)

This might be a good plan. But it seems that the ladies are looking for a Sugar Daddy. Every time he spoke to a woman last night.....they wanted to know if he owned land....how big it was....can he build....does he have a house....how big is the house....can he show them......

Maybe he was hanging out in the wrong places. I'm not sure where to send him for the Sugar Mama types. You have some experience with this?

Now if only more Real Women realized it applies to them too.

I still feel so sorry for the poor guy, but again, the blame falls squarely on Mickey, no matter how rude Scylla was. Mickey allowed skimping on the one thing that shouldn't have been skimped on, and spent his 'thing' money on an outfit instead. Now he has to wait for more money, and spend the time until he gets it, cringing in embarrassment, with no one to help because guys don't want to help him fix/colorize his thing. They don't even want to see it. (If it was a female one, you could ask any of your girlfriends, to check your stuff and tell you if it was looking crazy, or ok, it's like going to the restroom together, np) That isn't fair, and I think Mickey should give up some of her OWN allowance to make up for that faux pas. He shouldn't have to pay for her bad judgement, by waiting til his allowance is due again.

So THAT'S what you do in there...

Treasure - I have 3 other girls screaming for more allowance, too. I had no idea that supporting ONE Manly Man was going to be more expensive than supporting 3 women combined. The clothing seems to be more expensive....he has to have funds to take them on a date....(evidently a meeting on a beach is not GOOD ENOUGH)....and now they are indicating that he has to have a huge house. He's going to have to get a job.

People in my office are staring at me...
insert Yahoo ROFL man here

I was NOT rude! I spoke gently, and out of concern for MM's welfare! I was, in fact, attempting to spare him the embarrassment of displaying his ill-matched bits off to another woman who might well have been much LESS considerate in her language than I was!


Well, if a man "can't win - either way," best that he take the route that at least flatters his date, even if it rebounds against him.

I appeal to the women in the crowd: have you ever been on a date where the guy didn't compliment you on what you were wearing? And if you have been, what did you think of HIM?


Yeah, that's right. I really wanted to be seen on a beach with a guy wearing nothing but a shirt, tie, and boxers.


Ok, MM needs some basic coaching here. If competition shows up . . . YOU COMPETE!!!!! You DO NOT walk away, abandoning your date as though she isn't worth fighting over.

And I may have "looked" perfectly content . . . but I was crying inside.


And MM didn't tell me that he'd be letting you dissect our date ON A PUBLIC FORUM!!!!!

ETA: If I let MM in for a cut of the proceeds from Slut Magazine, will he promise to spend it on an attachment that actually matches???

Mickey, your other girls are not his fault. It wouldn't have gotten this expensive if you hadn't gotten sidetracked by clothes instead of looking at things. (what you said above, though, that is why my rl son responds "it's just another bill, mom" when I ask him if he's dating anyone new...........I admit that is a shame that MM has to appear to be financially solvent. I remember when I was a young teenager, telling my mom defiantly "I don't care if the man I love is homeless in the gutter, if I love him, I will be with him!" Ummm yeah, right, that was *so* not true, eh? But the passion of youth, I Really believed it was. Things change and now, yeah, you gotta show me something, mostly, that you are not going to be leeching off of me.

Scylla - I told Montana Man, that if I came in here, and asked for advice on his "issue"....that it might get ugly. Personal things would be brought up, and criticized, and he would be judged. He was willing to risk it, in order to get help with his "issue."

I'm not going to relay that last message of yours to him. He's in a frail state.

Treasure....the problem last night was, that he was so nicely dressed and groomed, that women assumed things, and made a bee line to him, even when standing in a crowd. It was very clear that they had ONE thing on their mind....and it had nothing to do with his thing.....but rather, with his portfolio.

Look . . . I am NOT a judgmental person. And if Montana Man is REALLY feeling bad about this . . . well, I want to help. I value and admire a man who is not afraid to admit that he has "issues" . . . and who is willing to expose himself, emotionally, in public like this. Even if it has made me look rather bad.

So, I'm willing to try again. Let MM know that we'll start from scratch, if he is willing. I'm ready to give this another shot, if he is.

As long as he recolourizes his bits, of course.

Mickey: Right-click... edit... Texture tab... apply a light tint to darken it a bit.

I mean, it's not like humans have THAT much variety in their pelts.

If you really want to help... roll up your sleeves and get your hands around the problem.

It's not that hard...