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Lovely Moisant
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07-19-2007 15:49
Guess this thread is for the ladies, mostly... why are av feet so ugly???! OMG!! And they're even more hideous with open toed pumps/stilettos -- the feet get molded into the shape of the shoe!!! I've purchased a few toenail/pedicure polishes only to find that they've made the av toes look like .... talons!!! Ok, there was one nail polish that made the toes appear more acceptable, but not that great. Then I thought perhaps it was the particular av skin. Went skin hunting and never found any that had the right type of feet. Now I'm obsessed with looking at other av's feet each time I'm online! Because if I ever see an av with realistic looking feet, I'll immediately approach that av, ask where she bought her skin, and tp immediately to that store to buy that same skin! (Even though I love the av skin I have right now.) Any suggestions?
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Aleister Montgomery
Minding the gap
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07-19-2007 15:52
LL had to keep the polygon count of the avatar mesh as low as possible. Therefore, the hands are quite simple and the feet are only flippers. Even the best skin fails to turn flippers into real feet with 10 toes. With high polygon avatars, we would speak of spf instead of fps.
But I find this upsetting as well. The feet are a very erotic part of the female body... I wish they'd look a tad more realistic in SL. _____________________
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Lovely Moisant
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07-19-2007 16:14
LL had to keep the polygon count of the avatar mesh as low as possible. Therefore, the hands are quite simple and the feet are only flippers. Even the best skin fails to turn flippers into real feet with 10 toes. With high polygon avatars, we would speak of spf instead of fps.
But I find this upsetting as well. The feet are a very erotic part of the female body... I wish they'd look a tad more realistic in SL *********************************************************************** So glad to know I'm not the only one dissatisfied about this particular feature! And thanks for explaining why every other anatomical part seems ok, except for the... flippers. Guess I'll end my quest then... |
Finora Kuncoro
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07-19-2007 16:27
As Aleister said, feet in SL are a sad afterthought. No wonder I wear boots most of the time...
I've noticed that some skin makers (including some supposedly top selling ones), are very poor about detailing the foot area. I suppose I have a bit of an appendage fetish, because one of the things I look for in any skin are well detailed hands and feet. You might try Skin Within or Naughty Designs. Both these skins have above average detailing IMO. Good luck _____________________
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Turbo Streeter
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Join date: 5 Jun 2007
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07-19-2007 16:39
My first room mate had the most detailed toes I have seen yet and by comments on her blog I'm guessing the skin came from Skin Within...
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SqueezeOne Pow
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07-19-2007 16:48
yeah...that's why I wear boots.
So now that the ladies are all looking in one area...what's up with people with female avs not making the arms long enough?? Do they just want long legs and forget about proportion? This has been a common trait even among proven females that I've come in contact with since I started in SL. ??Que es el dilly-o?? _____________________
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Perre Anatine
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07-19-2007 16:52
Hot tip for noobs (that includes me..) always keep your shoes on..no matter what your doing..no matter WHAT!!
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Finora Kuncoro
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07-19-2007 17:06
So now that the ladies are all looking in one area...what's up with people with female avs not making the arms long enough?? Do they just want long legs and forget about proportion? This has been a common trait even among proven females that I've come in contact with since I started in SL. ??Que es el dilly-o?? I think it's connected with the enduring affection for 6'+ tall AVs and the tendency to stretch the legs to achieve it. (I stand 5' 7" in SL and consequently have beautifully proportioned arms ![]() _____________________
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Jake Trenchard
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07-19-2007 17:12
So now that the ladies are all looking in one area...what's up with people with female avs not making the arms long enough? Go into the old stuff in your closet, and find your old barbie. Now place her next to your monitor. Now compare the proportions of the 6' blond bombshell AV to the barbie doll. Ahhh. I thought so. |
Qie Niangao
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07-19-2007 18:20
So... shouldn't there be a market for sculptie feet? I guess the color-match and texture lighting would be fiendishly difficult (maybe punt with an alpha fade?)... but seems almost sure to be better than flippers.
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Namssor Daguerre
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07-20-2007 10:17
Aside from hard polygonal edges and spreading ones toes, the foot (there is only one) on the avatar UVW is probably the highest resolution area of the entire lower body section. It's a shame if skinners don't pay attention to it . Whatever the reason, the avatar foot does not need to look ugly even though it's basically a flipper. This is a low poly, high rez texture area of the avatar and is a perfect example of an area (like the ears) that benefits from the illusion of detailed texturing of highlight and shadow. I offer my rendition of Evie's feet (my soon to be released third generation female skin).
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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07-20-2007 10:57
not bad for feet
(feet are ugly be it RL or SL feet LOL) NOT a foot person, well unless it is kitty feet (I know silly me) or baby feet, those ones are ok _____________________
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Reitsuki Kojima
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07-20-2007 11:40
Robin Sojourner sells some barefoot foot-socks, if I recall correctly, the looked good in the picture.
Not sure how they look in game, though, since I'm a furry and normally have fox-feet. _____________________
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Nika Talaj
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07-20-2007 12:24
Buy a pedicure. If you get a good one, it really really helps, it's cheaper than a new skin, and can be worn with any skin! In addition to coloring your toenails, a good pedicure will somehow add definition to your toes. Pedicures are socks, so will help you out with your open toed sandals. They come in a set with matching manicure (gloves).
Both Awesome and Inks&Kinks have reasonably priced ones, but I'm sure if you search the forums you'll find a lot! *ponders how bad it would be to hijack thread to find out best pedicures in SL* |
SqueezeOne Pow
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07-20-2007 12:30
Go into the old stuff in your closet, and find your old barbie. Now place her next to your monitor. Now compare the proportions of the 6' blond bombshell AV to the barbie doll. Ahhh. I thought so. /me never had Barbies. My GI Joes and Transformers were perfectly and realistically proportioned! ![]() _____________________
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Finora Kuncoro
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07-20-2007 12:35
/me never had Barbies. My GI Joes and Transformers were perfectly and realistically proportioned! ![]() I have a feeling I'm going to regret asking this, but what are the perfect proportions for a Transformer ?? _____________________
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JessyAnne Theas
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07-20-2007 12:39
yeah...that's why I wear boots. So now that the ladies are all looking in one area...what's up with people with female avs not making the arms long enough?? Do they just want long legs and forget about proportion? This has been a common trait even among proven females that I've come in contact with since I started in SL. ??Que es el dilly-o?? Eek... now I'm wondering about the length of my arms... _____________________
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Namssor Daguerre
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07-20-2007 12:51
Buy a pedicure. If you get a good one, it really really helps, it's cheaper than a new skin, and can be worn with any skin! |
SqueezeOne Pow
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07-20-2007 13:36
Eek... now I'm wondering about the length of my arms... Just take a look at how you look in the mirror and how far down your arms go when you have them at your side. You'll see the difference pretty quick! _____________________
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Ricardo Harris
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07-20-2007 13:46
Forget the feet!!! Put some ass on some of these women, most have none. They concentrate solely on their breasts but nothing for the hips or their butt.
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SqueezeOne Pow
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07-20-2007 13:52
Forget the feet!!! Put some ass on some of these women, most have none. They concentrate solely on their breasts but nothing for the hips or their butt. It's all about the booty! /me is in total agreement. Maybe it would cut down on some of the haziness of the "ageplay" contraversy if more female avs looked like healthy adult women and not the Paris Hilton beanpole look. My avatar don't want none unless you got buns hun! >whip crack< _____________________
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Ann Launay
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07-20-2007 14:15
/me shakes her hips and booty, admiring her pretty feet-covering shoes all the while
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Nika Talaj
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07-20-2007 14:33
hi namssor! All manis/pedis I've seen appeared completely transparent except for nails and some definition lines. Never had a problem with them making sock or glove "lines" on light or dark skins. I hear some cheap ones have nails that don't line up with all AVs toes. My AV is standard human and has had either 0 and non-zero size feet, depending on circumstances, and pedis always look fine. I think I paid somewhere around 100L for them.
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Angelique LaFollette
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07-20-2007 15:22
I have some experience as an Artist (Painting, sketch, and Sculpting) and i can tell you The two hardest parts of the human anatomy to render Accurately, and Attractively are Hands, and Feet. I'm not surprised that it's been difficult to Model Attractive feet on a Digital Model.
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Lovely Moisant
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07-20-2007 18:02
Finora, Turbo, Namssor, Reitsuki, Nika... thanks all for your suggestions! Will check them all out!
Lovely |