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Phil Deakins
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01-29-2010 04:38
From: Argent Stonecutter
I don't know if you're married, so "have you stopped beating your wife yet" might not apply.
You're rambling.
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Argent Stonecutter
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01-29-2010 04:43
From: Phil Deakins
You're rambling.
I do not believe you are so poorly educated as to be unaware of the reference.
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Phil Deakins
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01-29-2010 06:12
From: Argent Stonecutter
I do not believe you are so poorly educated as to be unaware of the reference.
Consider me so poorly educated. And you're rambling.
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01-29-2010 07:22
Next time someone calls you on one of your http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loaded_questions you don't have to act dumb.
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Phil Deakins
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01-29-2010 07:24
From: Argent Stonecutter
Next time someone calls you on one of your http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loaded_questions don't act dumb.
You're still rambling.
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01-29-2010 07:26
*plonk*
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Eternus Soulstar
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01-29-2010 17:52
From: Phil Deakins
Now you're learning. The same is true of everyone who posts, including you. It's never a case of, I'll accept your view on one thing if you'll accept mine on something else. I don't do deals like that.

There is no subtlety that's lost on me, but I'm not impressed by amateur lawyers.



oh. excuse me, i thought we were debating. but since we're not, and whether i conceded your statement 'the same is true of everyone' or not, i find it useful in this context because it makes it irrelevant whether we are debating or not. you are stating your opinions and dont care what anyone else's are nor will you apparently let such trivial things as facts enter into it. so i suppose i can be construed as doing the same in whole or in part if anyone chooses to do so. nevertheless it at least provides me with a modicum of entertainment value to indulge in the self-precoppation (thank you Jig i love that word for some reason) of hearing myself being right at your expense, whether anyone but me ever realizes it or not notwithstanding.

i would have to be a lawyer to be an amateur lawyer but either case is irrelevant to the point you refuse to even defend about how someone can be a thief and simultameously be impossible to libel. if you do expect anyone to take anything you have to say about anything seriously you have to be willing at least, if not able, to make the attempt to show rationale when what you say is questioned. if on the other hand you are not expecting anyone to take anything you have to say seriously, by all means continue without said rationale, i'm sure you won't be disappointed then when indeed as you expect, no one does.
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Phil Deakins
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01-30-2010 04:11
From: Eternus Soulstar
oh. excuse me, i thought we were debating. but since we're not, and whether i conceded your statement 'the same is true of everyone' or not, i find it useful in this context because it makes it irrelevant whether we are debating or not. you are stating your opinions and dont care what anyone else's are nor will you apparently let such trivial things as facts enter into it. so i suppose i can be construed as doing the same in whole or in part if anyone chooses to do so. nevertheless it at least provides me with a modicum of entertainment value to indulge in the self-precoppation (thank you Jig i love that word for some reason) of hearing myself being right at your expense, whether anyone but me ever realizes it or not notwithstanding.

i would have to be a lawyer to be an amateur lawyer but either case is irrelevant to the point you refuse to even defend about how someone can be a thief and simultameously be impossible to libel. if you do expect anyone to take anything you have to say about anything seriously you have to be willing at least, if not able, to make the attempt to show rationale when what you say is questioned. if on the other hand you are not expecting anyone to take anything you have to say seriously, by all means continue without said rationale, i'm sure you won't be disappointed then when indeed as you expect, no one does.
Sorry, I should have said "self-styled lawyers" and no, we're not debating. You may be but I'm not. I only debate about bots.
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Egil Milner
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01-30-2010 06:59
I see we've degenerated to SLdrama, but I'll post on-topic anyway.

I liked using the Radar once in a while when I was on a sim that was designated as a "newbie helping" area, because it enabled me to identify those people whom I should specifically greet and offer help to if needed. I've never had any use for it otherwise.

I use the built-in AO all the time because it works without my having to clutter my screen with a useless (for me) AO control pane. I don't want to change animation setting on the fly; I just want my avatar to walk/move/sit the way I want him to without my having to think about it and without losing any fraction of an inch of my 17 in. laptop screen.

Having "worn items" is great. Being able to pull up a profile by clicking a name in Local Chat is incredibly useful, so much so that I was surprised when someone told me the SL viewer doesn't do this. Lag bars in the upper right corner of the window are useful. Teleport history can be useful once in a while.

All that said, though, I'm probably going to try my own test to see which of the three viewers I have - stock SL, Emerald, and Snowglobe - renders best and fastest. Subjectively, I'll also say that Emerald "feels" slow, but I don't know if that will actually play out when I look more carefully.
BeeBee Brouwer
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01-30-2010 07:52
"Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig."

Robert Heinlein quotes (American science-fiction writer,1907-1988)

I do believe it's long since past time to abandon Phil's singing lessons; the original inquiry has been answered and to continue this discussion merely invites yet another chorus of BS.


Discussion guidlines, anyone?

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Phil Deakins
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01-30-2010 07:55
From: BeeBee Brouwer
"Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig."

Robert Heinlein quotes (American science-fiction writer,1907-1988)

I do believe it's long since past time to abandon Phil's singing lessons; the original inquiry has been answered and to continue this discussion merely invites yet another chorus of BS.
So why have you continued it? It was way past time before you even started - like it was any of your business to try to teach me anything, especially as you were wrong. You'd do better if you learned the subject before trying to teach anyone anything. And thank you for the insult - it's noted.
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Phil Deakins
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01-30-2010 08:03
From: BeeBee Brouwer
Discussion guidlines, anyone?
Sure.

From: BeeBee Brouwer
"Posts singling out others for negative commentary or treatment are also not appropriate on the forums and may be removed. “Singling out others” includes calling them out by their Second Life name, real-world name, brand, company, organization, or group name, or in other ways reasonably likely to identify them. Some examples of unacceptable “negative commentary or treatment” are complaints about another’s products or services, claims that someone has violated a Linden Lab policy or the law, opinion polls about a particular Resident, and posts that include in their title another person’s name with the intent of provoking the person named.
Enough said?

Now where's that rock you crawled out from under? It misses you.
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Phil Deakins
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01-30-2010 08:15
BeeBee. You're problem is that you're not satisfied when people don't agree with you, to the extent of equating them with pigs, and it's a real problem for you. It doesn't take many brain cells to realise that, if what someone posted is libel, then it's already been done, so there is really no point in trying to persuade to writer that it's libel, whether it's true or not. You can inform them of your opinion, but there's no point in trying to persuade them because it's done - it's past.

In this case, I wouldn't give up your day job because you're a lousy barrack room lawyer - and, to be a lawyer, you'd need a lot more functioning brain cells than you've displayed here.
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BeeBee Brouwer
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Dnftt
01-30-2010 08:41
From: Phil Deakins
It was way past time before you even started - like it was any of your business to try to teach me anything, especially when you were wrong. And thank you for the insult - it's noted.


http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/ferouscranus.htm

'Teaching' implies a capacity and/or willingness to learn. Clearly neither you, nor the singing pig possess either.

In the unlikely event that you can cite proof of your accusations I'm willing to listen, but all I see at this point is an abundance of hog shit.

The issue at hand is the Emerald Viewer itself, and your own endorsement of the viewers capacities speaks volumes.

From: Phil Deakins
it can be used to upload temporary animations and textures, including sculptmaps, for testing before commiting to a paid upload. For me, that's useful with an alt. I use the standard viewer for everything else.


In reference to the radar capacities of Emerald being deemed 'too intrusive' when all the information provided by it is readily available elsewhere ..

From: Phil Deakins
That's because is *is* too intrusive. It's great to open from time to time as needed, but it's no good as a normal radar because it fills too much of the viewer with a solid box.


From: Phil Deakins
Personally, I have no objections to the info that Emerald's radar shows about me.
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Phil Deakins
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01-30-2010 09:07
From: BeeBee Brouwer
'Teaching' implies a capacity and/or willingness to learn. Clearly neither you, nor the singing pig possess either.
You're right about me not possessing the willingness to learn from you, but there's no pig of any sort on this end. What on earth made you think that I was willing to learn from you? Is anything functioning at all in that head of yours?

From: BeeBee Brouwer
In the unlikely event that you can cite proof of your accusations I'm willing to listen, but all I see at this point is an abundance of hog shit.
It's not surprising that you can only see hog shit - you're writing a hell of a lot of it, so it's in front of your eyes a lot. But why would I want to prove anything to you? Are you someone who matters? I made statements - you can believe or disbelieve them as you wish. There's no need for me to prove anything to you.

From: BeeBee Brouwer
The issue at hand is the Emerald Viewer itself, and your own endorsement of the viewers capacities speaks volumes.

In reference to the radar capacities of Emerald being deemed 'too intrusive' when all the information provided by it is readily available elsewhere ..
What's your problem then? I'm inclined to think that you've lost the plot. Cancel that question. I'm not interested in your problem - I never was. I post my views - you can take them or leave them.
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BeeBee Brouwer
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01-30-2010 21:09
From: Phil Deakins
You're right about me ... snip.


Oh SNAP!
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Eternus Soulstar
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01-31-2010 03:37
i'd like to add i also use Emerald because as a fringe benefit its existence annoys people that need annoying.
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Phil Deakins
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01-31-2010 04:03
From: Eternus Soulstar
i'd like to add i also use Emerald because as a fringe benefit its existence annoys people that need annoying.
Why would the use of Emerald annoy anyone?
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Eternus Soulstar
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01-31-2010 04:31
From: Phil Deakins
Why would the use of Emerald annoy anyone?


lol

just google Emerald and scan through a few of the threads that come up as hits in the SL blogs

there are people that hate several of the very same things its users love most: the radar and its related functions, the true online status and keys in profiles, the in-region teleport enhancements, OTR encryption, to name a few
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Phil Deakins
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01-31-2010 04:35
I haven't heard of it annoying people before - I rarely follow LL's blogs and never follow other people's blogs.

The encryption should be banned, of course, but I make good use of a couple of its radar features.

Doing something because it annoys some people doesn't seem like a very good attitude to me, but it takes all kinds, I suppose.
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Eternus Soulstar
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01-31-2010 05:22
i dont care much one way or the other about the encryption, i mean i use it but if they banned it i wouldnt lose any sleep, if i want to talk about something and dont want it intercepted i can always use some other chat service if i have to. but yeah radar i have always used as a hud and having it in the client is sooo much better, features wise and better for the sim too.

but by 'people that need annoying' , well the radar is a fair example. it's all information the client already has anyway just in a more usable useful form, but the anti-radar people don't like it on privacy grounds.
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Phil Deakins
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01-31-2010 05:27
I'd agree about emerlad's radar if it could be set to display as a normal radar but, for me, it takes up too much solid screen space and it can't be used as a radar. I open it when a need comes up, and I close it afterwards, so it's not lighter on the sim in my case.
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01-31-2010 08:41
From: Phil Deakins
I haven't heard of it annoying people before - I rarely follow LL's blogs and never follow other people's blogs.

The encryption should be banned, of course, but I make good use of a couple of its radar features.

Doing something because it annoys some people doesn't seem like a very good attitude to me, but it takes all kinds, I suppose.


You should follow my blog, there are pictures of me in my underwear on it.
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Phil Deakins
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01-31-2010 08:57
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You should follow my blog, there are pictures of me in my underwear on it.
That made me laugh out loud here. Post a url to it and I'll have a look - and mark your knickers out of 10.
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01-31-2010 15:55
From: Phil Deakins
That made me laugh out loud here. Post a url to it and I'll have a look - and mark your knickers out of 10.


http://brenda-connolly.blogspot.com/2010/01/brendas-back.html
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