Been Anywhere That REQUIRES Voice?

why I put myself into this position is beyond me. Silence is golden, litterally...Here goes.


Love ya man. Amazed at how many lesbians turned out to be deaf..I was amazed at how many people in general turned out to be deaf, or speech impaired. I mean really wtf was up with that? You would think that these people, basically shoved into the dark socially, suddenly found themselves on a platform where they could easilly and eloquently express themselves in a visual medium without the stigma of thier handicap/s being readily apparent. I mean whats up with that? One would think they had finally found that they could communicate with thier peers, induldge in thier fantasies and enjoy themselves just like everyone else. And then came the semi virtual wasteland that was and is voice and relegated them back into the standing there looking stupid catagory trying to defend themselves from the "Got voicers? No? Your a guy/girl/freak/welfare bums of the world. Tell you what my friend, at least in real life, They can see your tits, hearing aids, beards, cleft palettes, disfiguring burns or scars before they relegate you to the also ran bins of the world. In Secondlife, once upon a time. You did not have to prove anything just to talk about your framerate and get a little social interaction in your life. Peace.

Indeed, had a RL friend enjoy her time here... till the got voice crowd drove her away. I see her in RL and she's still active on other media (IRC and Chat programs).

Plus you got the joys of wanting to keep rl and sl separate, since there are many folks out there that take an unhealthy interest in others... I keep my rl information separate, too much drama can flow into RL that can be avoided.

Is he still around? I remember when he used to be funny.

I believe he is still on Sirius. I use to love listening to him a long time ago.I agree, he USE to be funny. Now he is just blech...

Well, there certainly seems to be a lot of folks that refuse to use voice. So, it stands to reason that there should be plenty of folks for the type-only crowd to chat with. As a result, I find it hard to believe that many people are having problems finding non-voice crowds to socialize with.

In fact, I have found very few willing to use voice - I have even been met with insults and suspicion when I ask people if they would like to try it. (Curse you and your perverted desire to use the most common form of human communication!!!) ROFL They act as though I'm accusing them of something. Hmmm, perhaps this is a reason why some are afraid to use the feature - they wish to avoid hostile reactions from non-voicers?

Oh well, I suppose it ain't worth the trouble of worrying about it. Ain’t no skin off my nose.

I never get mad at people that choose not to use voice. I only feel sad for them for never having heard my wonderful voice. Dang, I sound good! Toss in my sparkling personality and I’m stunning!!!

Repeatedly Pwned by Opie and Anthony, who actually ARE funny and are on both XM and regular radio. I don't think anyone really cares about Stern anymore.

The stigma that a small subset of voicers place on non-voicers will persist until voice is no longer becomes a reliable way for them (in their mind) to "prove" what they think they are proving.

When that time comes to pass there will be a push to in-world webcam.

The discrimation present isn't about voicing and non-voicing, its about people uncomfortable with who they may be having cyber-sex / online relationships with.

There is a backlash from some non-voicers towards this group (and voicers in general) is also real and leads to further conflict.

There are plenty of people who dont really care about these things who voice or don't voice but they really arent the source of the conflict. At most these people will just ignore/leave out others - out of lack of consideration rather than malice.

I have no problem using voice to prove my female-ness if that would make someone happy. But I refuse to use it as a main form of communication.

That would also be very cool, and very bad.

I even gave a thought to streaming webcam footage of mine up to a server & having it play in SL, but I dont think its possible.

Shame......those of us who are deaf, and will never know, the wonderful voices and personalities we are missing.. Then again, maybe those refusing to bother with us, are missing something too. Maybe, just maybe, we are worth knowing, anyway. So many insist that voice is 'an option'. For me and so many others like me, it is simply not. It doesn't mean 'refusal'. It means 'inability'. So many equate hearing loss with stupidity. Nothing is further from the truth. I am eloquent......but I can't hear you.

Maybe I'm mistaken, but isn't SL supposed to be an "Immersive VIRTUAL World"??? If someone wants to voicechat/webcam/cyber then they should get an account on AdultFriendFinder. Far as I know SL wasn't designed to be a dating service.

I've sat across a wooden table with small figurines and plastic multi-sided dice and role-played female characters. No one sitting at the table accused me of ill intent, and I never asked the guy across the table to "prove" he could really throw fireballs in RL. It was "fun". What I find interesting is how many people seem to get vehemently emotionally attached to a bunch of pixels.

I would very much enjoy playing a female AV in SL. If someone else's homophobia gets in the way of them appreciating that, don't expect sympathy nor apology here.

And just to point out once again, it's not a choice for some people anyway. It's like having your radio STUCK on Howard Stern because someone else BROKE the knob. I'd complain about that.

Yeah...on both sides, the majority/the most vocal members of BOTH sides of the debate get on my last nerve, because they are too hard-line in thier stance on SL Voice. "ANTI-Voice" or "pro-Voice"

...it ain't ABORTION, people, u know? It's just a choice of how you communicate for the time being on the Grid. Folks just need to use it as a tool and realize that not everybody uses SL like they do.

Last night I was at a Karaoke (yes, a real-time Karaoke over Voice). THAT was a situation where all who wanted to sing NEEDED to use Voice, but just dancing in a club? Not mandatory.

The "SL Voice Impaired" group that I'm in has few members so far, and I chalk that up to us not having a hard-line stance on the issue...instead it's a group for folks who can't speak in Voice for any number of reasons...the charter specifically states this, so there's no confusion.

I have attended Linden Office Hours, the Karaoke, Live music Concerts, Clubs, Book Discussions, many other Discussion groups, and classes with my Voice ON, but not able to speak in it...and in these cases nobody cared.

The only times that I was told to get voice, or be ejected from Land or a Group, were always times where Voice was NOT mandatory...and whoever made me unwelcome just thought it was "cool" enough, that I should have a workin headset by default.

...from the examples I gave above...I don't see how non-speakers in Voice have to miss out on (hardly) anything at all. I think we have pretty much exhausted this subject, unless we wanna go off-topic for a few pages just to stretch it, but thats just my opinion.