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FD Spark
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05-26-2008 22:09
I don't use voice, I have very old mic but I am in pain a whole lot of time and it is difficult to do a whole lot especially with my voice.
I won't go to places personally that require voice and very few of those I hang out require anyone to use voice.
I spend a whole lot time creating, I am house bound due to illness and spend most of my time creating or picking the brains of my patient friends who help me and we never use voice.
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05-26-2008 22:10
I would absolutely not remain in any place that required voice. There's no place in SL that important, and likely never will be. For RL<->SL contractors, maybe meetings are an exception, but that doesn't apply to me.

But you know... My computer is in the living room, and that's a problem even if I didn't dislike voice in general. I don't use the telephone at night when my family is watching a movie or my wife is working on a painting, and I won't use Voice in SL for the same reasons.

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05-26-2008 22:47
Some performing arts in SL require that one LISTEN in voice to hear actors/performers, with your own mic off. So it is nice to set voice up, even if one never speaks.

I've never been in a social situation that required voice. Generally, when voice is used in a social setting, it completely destroys the immersion for me. Do I want to hear a "werecat" and a "vampire" discussing car repair while a TV drones in the background? Not so much.
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05-26-2008 23:01
I only use it if needed, for some stuff like lectures etc, it's like listening to a stream anyway, it's good as an option, and I usually have it on even withou my mic plugged in, so find really it's rarely used.
I won't ignore people if they want to use voice to communicate, but I don't encourage it either.
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05-27-2008 01:48
I see the "Wah, I dont wanna use voice" crowd is still whinning about voice. If you don't like advancement, IRC is alive and well, why dont you head over there, and while you're at it, drop back down to dial up, accoustic coupler's are probably pretty cheap on ebay.
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05-27-2008 02:00
From: Johan Laurasia
I see the "Wah, I dont wanna use voice" crowd is still whinning about voice. If you don't like advancement, IRC is alive and well, why dont you head over there, and while you're at it, drop back down to dial up, accoustic coupler's are probably pretty cheap on ebay.


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05-27-2008 02:07
From: RobbyRacoon Olmstead
For RL<->SL contractors, maybe meetings are an exception, but that doesn't apply to me.

I haven't really found this. Most companies hiring contractors who understand SL at all are used to the idea that a lot of people don't want to use voice for one reason or another, and don't insist on it; the likelihood of this happening in a meeting is even higher of course.

I've never been able to get voice to work _anyway_, even listening, and frankly I wouldn't use it anyway were I so inclined - I would only wish to do so to talk to specific people for a short period, and for that, Skype is much more reliable.
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05-27-2008 05:02
I don't hang around many people in the "keep it real" crowd. You know, the ones with the 8'6" tall avatars that look "exactly" like them in real life, just thinner, and younger, and face-lit, and...... (=_=)

So, honestly, even though I have voice on... It's been a LONG time since I last heard someone's voice or even room sounds. Sure, when I'm in welcome areas there might be one or two, but what are they going on about anywayz? (^_^)y
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05-27-2008 05:21
From: Johan Laurasia
I see the "Wah, I dont wanna use voice" crowd is still whinning about voice. If you don't like advancement, IRC is alive and well, why dont you head over there, and while you're at it, drop back down to dial up, accoustic coupler's are probably pretty cheap on ebay.


laws yesh, a new mIRC did just come out to host out boredom making or updating new scripts for it ...
'coz ya know! there's just no peer pressure of "Send me a RL pix!" "Get on your web cam!" "What's your nick on <insert w/e IM that uses a voice technology>" "What's your MySpace?" in textland!

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05-27-2008 05:30
I won't use voice. In fact, I switch it on from time to time just to see, but I don't think I've ever been anywhere where voice has been used - I'd probably scurry off in shock if I head someone talking.

Plus, I find that little white dot over my head very distracting.

Many years ago, himself had a CB Radio, back when it was all the rage. He would sit in his cortina for hours on end talking endless rubbish over the airwaves, mostly to people he'd just seen in the pub!! I would imaging voice is kind of similar.
Rioko Bamaisin
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05-27-2008 05:44
Aww Winter. :( You can type at me anytime!:) I don't like voice very much. Ruins the whole thing for me.Plus I can barely understand people on it. I'd rather just talk to people on the phone one on one.
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Nic Writer
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05-27-2008 06:34
I don't use voice. The one place I've ever been that required it was a class or lecture that was being given over a mic. I suppose I could have set up voice just to listen if I'd really wanted, but I wasn't that interested.

I don't like voice. I'm very visual/textual, and have to really concentrate sometimes to make sense of audio information. I'm also very noise-sensitive. By the time I can make out the words over voice, the volume is uncomfortably loud. I probably COULD use voice, but for me it would be painful and draining and not much fun.

I'm sure there are people who feel the same way about text as I feel about voice, and others who switch quite happily between the two.
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05-27-2008 07:10
On the AICR island, which is run by The Association for International Cancer Research (www.aicr.org.uk). I know that they plan on doing live cancer meetings with voice (as I am helping with this) where the cancer expert will inform the listeners about the specific cancer topic and answer their questions, but after the event a list of questions and answers from that meeting are going to be typed up and sent out to the group, deliberately to cater for the hearing impaired (deaf or doesn't use voice).

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Lias Leandros
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05-27-2008 07:29
Yes, there is always the guy eating potato chips into his mic. Just open the ACTIVE LISTENER window and scroll down the noisy people. I do ask people to at least listen using voice and respond using the keyboard. I do not think just because you do not want to talk that I should be forced to type everything. Voice is great when building with a partner or multitasking.
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05-27-2008 07:38
At the Doctor Who Experience in the Katrina region most of us use voice, even folks who dont talk normally have voice at least switched on. There are folks who type as well and we try and keep the voice chat intime with the folks typing.

I think it all depends on how the sim is managed for the voice and text users, goota make everyone feel welcome :)
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05-27-2008 07:50
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I find that little white dot over my head very distracting.
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05-27-2008 07:50
Ive always likened 'voice' to 'chat bubbles' something we must have to move forward, rolls eyes, but a simple flash in the pan. I dislike voice never use it never will, same with chat bubbles. Annoying beyond belief but, if you MUST have voice go for it, I wont :)

Voice was a simple selling tool for SL, not needed just a sales gimmick.
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FaTeke Wottitz
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05-27-2008 08:18
From: Toy LaFollette
Ive always likened 'voice' to 'chat bubbles' something we must have to move forward, rolls eyes, but a simple flash in the pan. I dislike voice never use it never will, same with chat bubbles. Annoying beyond belief but, if you MUST have voice go for it, I wont :)

Voice was a simple selling tool for SL, not needed just a sales gimmick.


Says you. LOL

Voice has greatly enhanced my SL experience and that of almost everyone I know or hang out with. It is always on and I have come to know my friends so much better than before. There is more spontaneity in the chat now than before. And a richness and depth to our relationships that wasn't there before too.

In order for SL to continue to be the leader in the Virtual World movement it is imperative that they keep it one step ahead of the others...all of this is, of course, my opinion. :)

However, everyone should accommodate everyone else to the best of their ability. I do have a few friends who just don't want to talk, which is fine, I can read too, but they do usually turn voice on so they can listen.

I spent two weeks with my mic off, just to see what it was like for others in SL who won't use voice and you are right, it was very isolating and I was often ignored when I typed. So now when I know someone is in the group who is typing I pay special attention to them and make sure I read their comments, sometimes I'll even remind the rest of the group that they are typing.

Its about courtesy and accepting each other as is.
For those of us using voice it means take the time to read what the non-voicers are saying and include them in the conversation.

For those of us not using voice it sometimes means turn on the voice and listen.

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05-27-2008 08:26
From: FaTeke Wottitz
Says you. LOL

Voice has greatly enhanced my SL experience and that of almost everyone I know or hang out with. It is always on and I have come to know my friends so much better than before. There is more spontaneity in the chat now than before. And a richness and depth to our relationships that wasn't there before too.

In order for SL to continue to be the leader in the Virtual World movement it is imperative that they keep it one step ahead of the others...all of this is, of course, my opinion. :)

However, everyone should accommodate everyone else to the best of their ability. I do have a few friends who just don't want to talk, which is fine, I can read too, but they do usually turn voice on so they can listen.

I spent two weeks with my mic off, just to see what it was like for others in SL who won't use voice and you are right, it was very isolating and I was often ignored when I typed. So now when I know someone is in the group who is typing I pay special attention to them and make sure I read their comments, sometimes I'll even remind the rest of the group that they are typing.

Its about courtesy and accepting each other as is.
For those of us using voice it means take the time to read what the non-voicers are saying and include them in the conversation.

For those of us not using voice it sometimes means turn on the voice and listen.

Peace,
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The starting of your comments with LOL pretty much proves my point. TYVM :)

I happen to have totally enjoyed SL w/o voice. So its something that doesnt need to be used to enjoy SL.
LL rushed voice through because what they promised to do with voice was a lot of work, hence what we have now is a sales gimmick. Nothing more.
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05-27-2008 08:37
I don't own a microphone or a headset, but decided to try it out so I could really say wheteher I liked it or not. I borrowed a microphone from my job, and put the dot over my head and wandered. After 30 minutes I unplugged the mic, and undotted myself. The inanities, annoyances and the disconcerting effect of voices not matching the avatar's image are enough to keep me in Silent Running.

The business, educational and one on one personal possibilties make it a good tool, but I can do without it. I won't be offended if someone doesn't want to type to me. I'll just move along.
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05-27-2008 08:47
From: Toy LaFollette

I happen to have totally enjoyed SL w/o voice.


Me too.

If I find that I've typed something and it has been ignored, the person or people in range:

a) are afk or
b) found what I said to be crashingly dull and not worthy of a response, or
c) don't like me and won't reply anyway

I can't see what enabling voice will do to help a). As for helping b) and c), my guess is that it would piss those people off even more.

I'm happy with voxless SL. I've managed well enough for the best part of 2 years, enjoyed the experience and besides, if there is anyone I want to actually talk to for whatever reason, I'll phone them or get on Skype. Last thing I need is to replicate the sound of a pub filled with village idiots when I'm in-world :) I can go to the pub for that.
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05-27-2008 09:31
This thread is veering off the topic of "folks who CAN'T use Voice", into another Pro & Anti Choice debate. If we stay on topic, no flames presented in this thread will even make any sense, so I recommend that we do just that. *shrugs*

...the most vocal ppl who talk about Voice in-world are Pro or Anti Voice...hardline in thier stance, and try to force thier beliefs on other ppl.

Whether you're sick, mute, in the living room, or otherwise can't speak in Voice...or you just prefer text chat, in the end it's your choice. We have enough rules in this "virtual world" as it is.

I made an alt a while back, and played around as a black LOLO housecat, just to get on folks' nerves. I wouldn't even talk. I just emoted. I have met a few players who have thier Main doin' the same thing. I don't hold it against 'em...if I ain't homophobic, then why would I be so narrow-minded that I can't put up with somebody who communicates differently from me in an MMO??

From: SuezanneC Baskerville
There's technology in development to enable voice communication without speaking by detecting sub-vocal speech. If that comes to be, then you will be able to chat in voice at midnight without disturbing the household.


That sounds cool as hell...if I'm understandin' it right.

From: Tod69 Talamasca
In other online activities, such as when playing tactical shooters, Voice is a requirement. He who types ends up dead & out.


Yeah, that reminds me of back when I used ta play console games like Ghost Recon, 25 to Life and others w/ my Sony headset on the Playstation...the team who could strategize & warn each other in real-time over Voice had a HUGE advantage...so all the kids went out of thier way to get Voice, or the game just wasn't fun for em' and they usually got excluded from every online team, since they would just be dead weight or a liability.

...of course in THIS scenario, we pretty much forced folks to get Voice, or we just lost a lot more games.

From: FD Spark
I don't use voice, I have very old mic but I am in pain a whole lot of time and it is difficult to do a whole lot especially with my voice.
I won't go to places personally that require voice and very few of those I hang out require anyone to use voice.


I feel u...when I came back to SL last November, outta the "nuthouse"/asylum whatever u wanna call it...I was in heavy withdrawal from bein over-dosed on Klonipin from my old doctor (he since quit...the city indicted him), and I could barely breathe, let alone speak.

Even since then...I have had another doctor quit, and my meds have been switched about 5 times...bein a bipolar psychotic schizophrenic, I ain't always in the mood to talk to a "crowd" in real time w/ any courtesy or "manners" whatsoever. It helps when I can type back instead...gives me a chance to think before I open my mouth.

There are SO MANY sick folks in SL too...a lotta "oldbies" are still here partially because of that fact alone.

From: Nika Talaj
Some performing arts in SL require that one LISTEN in voice to hear actors/performers, with your own mic off. So it is nice to set voice up, even if one never speaks.


That's true, even though most Live bands and singers, in SL etc just use the music/shoutcast option right now.

From: Nika Talaj
...Do I want to hear a "werecat" and a "vampire" discussing car repair while a TV drones in the background? Not so much.


LMAO

From: Johan Laurasia
I see the "Wah, I dont wanna use voice" crowd is still whinning about voice. If you don't like advancement, IRC is alive and well, why dont you head over there, and while you're at it, drop back down to dial up, accoustic coupler's are probably pretty cheap on ebay.


From: Xio Jester
...not ANTI-Voice, just "we can't hear you" or can't speak in it.


Lay off the pipe Bozo. You jumped the gun anyway.

From: FaTeke Wottitz
Voice has greatly enhanced my SL experience and that of almost everyone I know or hang out with. It is always on and I have come to know my friends so much better than before. There is more spontaneity in the chat now than before. And a richness and depth to our relationships that wasn't there before too.


I believe u, I just can't use it right now. Fair enough? :rolleyes:

From: FaTeke Wottitz
However, everyone should accommodate everyone else to the best of their ability. I do have a few friends who just don't want to talk, which is fine, I can read too, but they do usually turn voice on so they can listen.


I HAVE been on that end quite a few times...I might not be able ta TALK in Voice, but I never got any problem listening, even though it really does change my impression of a few folks...& in some cases almost "ruined" my mental image of them. This one happy lookin racoon who talks like Johnny Rotten on a pirate ship for example.

From: FaTeke Wottitz
Its about courtesy and accepting each other as is.


...it sure is.

From: Brenda Connolly
I don't own a microphone or a headset, but decided to try it out so I could really say wheteher I liked it or not. I borrowed a microphone from my job, and put the dot over my head and wandered. After 30 minutes I unplugged the mic, and undotted myself. The inanities, annoyances and the disconcerting effect of voices not matching the avatar's image are enough to keep me in Silent Running.

The business, educational and one on one personal possibilties make it a good tool, but I can do without it. I won't be offended if someone doesn't want to type to me. I'll just move along.


Yeah, "Voice Land" don't really seem like the carnival that some of these people try & tell us that it is after u go to a few Welcome Areas or whatever. I agree, it has a LOT of potential, and it's good for projects like SLCN.tv, business conferences, even gaming in-world...but in almost no circumstances is it factually "mandatory" yet.

I just write off snobs and go my own way too. Most of the time, I don't even have Voice enabled, and I don't feel like I'm "missing out" at all.
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05-27-2008 09:41
From: Toy LaFollette
The starting of your comments with LOL pretty much proves my point. TYVM :)

I happen to have totally enjoyed SL w/o voice. So its something that doesnt need to be used to enjoy SL.
LL rushed voice through because what they promised to do with voice was a lot of work, hence what we have now is a sales gimmick. Nothing more.


Again, in your opinion.

In my opinion it was a wonderful addition that took my fun SL and made it even better.

And the LOL that I added in the beginning was only to soften the "so says you" comment.

Voice was needed, is needed and is way more than a gimmick. <--in my opinion.

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05-27-2008 09:44
From: Johan Laurasia
I see the "Wah, I dont wanna use voice" crowd is still whinning about voice. If you don't like advancement, IRC is alive and well, why dont you head over there, and while you're at it, drop back down to dial up, accoustic coupler's are probably pretty cheap on ebay.

Waaaaahhh!!!!
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05-27-2008 09:45
From: Crunch Underwood
... going to the toilet?? man thats bad ...
i don't understand the people who have really really private conversations in open voice. i'v not tryed it but i'm sure there is a way to private voice.
People do these things in RL on the phone, so it does not surprise me that they do it in SL.



I have tried voice but prefer SL without it. Since I have a tendency to balk anytime I am told what I must or must not do, if I ended up somewhere that said voice was required, I would probably leave and not go back.
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