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Holocluck Henly
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12-31-2008 06:15
Hey we WERE being deviant by moving it back to the subject.
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Avawyn Muircastle
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12-31-2008 06:40
From: Phil Deakins
I think differently. I do expect honesty about RLs from people in SL. I don't *expect* people to divulge things but, *if* they divulge things, I do expect it to be the truth. I know that some people lie, so I'm not naive about it.


Some people spell it out in their profile, whether "I'm lesbian" or "I'm a male heterosexual, sorry guys" for some examples. People setting up some boundaries or spelling out what they are looking for in SL in their profile, I see as a positive. But then there are those that say in their profile "I'm just here for fun and chat". So with those you just chat and have fun, unless they ask you to do something that is not your type of "fun".

I usually avoid avatars with profiles that don't say much such as "just here for fun" because the word fun is such a variable word and also makes me think I can't be real with that person behind the avatar, and I do get sick of small talk very fast.

Me: How are you?

Them: Fine. How are you?

Me: Fine. So, what is your idea of fun?

Them: I dunno?

It is helpful to say some things in your profile about what you are seeking to get out of SL and some of your interests at least, as well as stating some boundaries. Saves a lot of time. However, the profile area needs to be a lot longer! There isn't enough room to write much.
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12-31-2008 07:09
If someone asked me what my idea of fun was, I'd be as likely to say "stealing people's socks" as anything else.
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12-31-2008 07:26
From: Argent Stonecutter
If someone asked me what my idea of fun was, I'd be as likely to say "stealing people's socks" as anything else.


Well, that would make me laugh but it wouldn't help me to find people I have something in common with, which is kind a what the profile area should be about.

I don't see the profile area as just to say "I love so and so and my whole heart and life belongs to so and so". Sure, there are those who are partnered and want it completely spelled out in their profile that they are taken in SL or RL. But a lot of people are on SL to find people that they have something in common with to talk about rather than SL being just a "visual" experience.

I think I said this before, if SL were merely just a visual medium, I think we'd all get sick of just waving to avatars very quickly.
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12-31-2008 07:30
From: Avawyn Muircastle
I think I said this before, if SL were merely just a visual medium, I think we'd all get sick of just waving to avatars very quickly.
Oh I don't know. There's always the option of waving to them very slowly, and at various speed in between, and even waving with the other hand or with both hands, to stave off getting sick of waving to them very quickly.
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12-31-2008 07:39
From: Phil Deakins
Oh I don't know. There's always the option of waving to them very slowly, and at various speed in between, and even waving with the other hand or with both hands, to stave off getting sick of waving to them very quickly.


If the only way one could communicate on SL was to vary the speed of their waving to the other avatars I'd think SL would have died very quickly.
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12-31-2008 07:47
From: Avawyn Muircastle
If the only way one could communicate on SL was to vary the speed of their waving to the other avatars I'd think SL would have died very quickly.
Yes but varying the speed does avoid the boredom.
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12-31-2008 07:48
From: Avawyn Muircastle
Well, that would make me laugh but it wouldn't help me to find people I have something in common with, which is kind a what the profile area should be about.

I don't see the profile area as just to say "I love so and so and my whole heart and life belongs to so and so". Sure, there are those who are partnered and want it completely spelled out in their profile that they are taken in SL or RL. But a lot of people are on SL to find people that they have something in common with to talk about rather than SL being just a "visual" experience.

I think I said this before, if SL were merely just a visual medium, I think we'd all get sick of just waving to avatars very quickly.


And so people that have CVs that are four pages long and a lot of other interests besides are supposed to condense that into a couple of paragraphs? Life's not that clean and simple. I keep my profile to a minimum and understand others' desire to do so as well. If you want to know them, talk to them.

And profiles tend to be the product of a day or moment in time. I find it interesting to sit in a place that has a lot of text conversation and compare what they say to what their profile says. Profiles are sometimes interesting, sometimes amusing, but rarely sufficient. Even doubling the text area wouldn't make it that.
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12-31-2008 07:59
From: Avawyn Muircastle
Well, that would make me laugh but it wouldn't help me to find people I have something in common with, which is kind a what the profile area should be about.
Nah, that's what the forums are about, to let us locate people with compatible deviations and stuff. The profile's not even big enough for the standard deviations, let alone a statistically significant sampling of non-standard ones, and, you know, some people are positively fractal.

And, now I think of it, making people laugh isn't a bad thing to have in common.
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12-31-2008 08:15
From: Cael Merryman
And so people that have CVs that are four pages long and a lot of other interests besides are supposed to condense that into a couple of paragraphs? Life's not that clean and simple. I keep my profile to a minimum and understand others' desire to do so as well. If you want to know them, talk to them.

And profiles tend to be the product of a day or moment in time. I find it interesting to sit in a place that has a lot of text conversation and compare what they say to what their profile says. Profiles are sometimes interesting, sometimes amusing, but rarely sufficient. Even doubling the text area wouldn't make it that.


I think it would help for me to have more space to write. I use every single character and have to keep modifying (shortening) my profile so it fits the maximum of characters.

A personal interest area couldn't hurt as even partnered avatars are looking to have an in depth conversation with someone they have something in common with and/or have an honest discussion about something that goes far beyond the "how are you's" when their partner can't be online.

So to the OP, write out your boundaries in your profile and search for PG zones if you'd like by clicking off mature in the search box. Also writing a good profile could help in attracting the type of people you are looking to connect with on SL as SL is a business and social networking platform, so a good profile can help in that "networking" experience. A profile is one of the tools of networking, anyhow, but is not the whole nor the end. It's merely a way to introduce yourself and whether you are approachable regarding something or not along with some of your interests or goals of your SL experience.
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12-31-2008 08:18
From: Avawyn Muircastle
I think it would help for me to have more space to write. I use every single character and have to keep modifying (shortening) my profile so it fits the maximum of characters.

A personal interest area couldn't hurt as even partnered avatars are looking to have an in depth conversation with someone they have something in common with and/or have an honest discussion about something that goes far beyond the "how are you's".

So to the OP, write out your boundaries in your profile and search for PG zones if you'd like by clicking off mature in the search box. Also writing a good profile could help in attracting the type of people you are looking to connect with on SL as SL is a business and social networking platform, so a good profile can help in that "networking" experience. A profile is one of the tools of networking, anyhow, but is not the whole nor the end. It's merely a way to introduce yourself and whether you are approachable regarding something or not along with some of your interests or goals of your SL experience.
You are making things too difficult. Search for groups that would have similar interests, there are probably hundreds out there. Most peeps probably aren't going to read a dissertation in your profile anyway.
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12-31-2008 08:31
From: Damien1 Thorne
You are making things too difficult. Search for groups that would have similar interests, there are probably hundreds out there. Most peeps probably aren't going to read a dissertation in your profile anyway.


I said an area to state your interests and/or goals (such as social/business because SL is a social and business networking platform), not write out an essay on one's whole life.

And the way the search is set up in SL isn't very well organized. It needs more categories. And, if you read above I suggested that the OP click OFF mature when searching in a post I wrote above.
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12-31-2008 08:41
From: Avawyn Muircastle
I said an area to state your interests and/or goals (such as social/business because SL is a social and business networking platform), not write out an essay on one's whole life.

And the way the search is set up in SL isn't very well organized. It needs more categories. And, if you read above I suggested that the OP click OFF mature when searching in a post I wrote above.

There is an Interests tab? I may have the name wrong but it is there. Same place as u put language.
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12-31-2008 08:44
From: Amaranthim Talon
There is an Interests tab? I may have the name wrong but it is there. Same place as u put language.


No, you are right Amara. There is a place to put things you're interested in, there are items you tick off such as "building", "meeting", "scripting" etc.

And how did this thread on deviancy get off-topic onto profile analysis?

Sheesh. Lets get it back on track people!

/whips out her - ummmm, whip? ;)
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12-31-2008 08:46
From: Elora Lunasea
And how did this thread on deviancy get off-topic onto profile analysis?

Sheesh. Lets get it back on track people!

/whips out her - ummmm, whip? ;)

Profile analysis should be left for finding serial killers.

So... how big is that whip of yours? Does it keep Llamas under control?
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12-31-2008 08:47
From: Avawyn Muircastle
Some people spell it out in their profile, whether "I'm lesbian" or "I'm a male heterosexual, sorry guys" for some examples. People setting up some boundaries or spelling out what they are looking for in SL in their profile, I see as a positive. But then there are those that say in their profile "I'm just here for fun and chat". So with those you just chat and have fun, unless they ask you to do something that is not your type of "fun".

I usually avoid avatars with profiles that don't say much such as "just here for fun" because the word fun is such a variable word and also makes me think I can't be real with that person behind the avatar, and I do get sick of small talk very fast.

Me: How are you?

Them: Fine. How are you?

Me: Fine. So, what is your idea of fun?

Them: I dunno?

It is helpful to say some things in your profile about what you are seeking to get out of SL and some of your interests at least, as well as stating some boundaries. Saves a lot of time. However, the profile area needs to be a lot longer! There isn't enough room to write much.


Between the SL, FL, Picks and groups tabs of the profile, there is plenty of space to give a good initial idea of someone's interests if it's used properly. You don't need long winded self inflating paragraphs describing your every hope and dream and deep thought for first contact. A brief outline is sufficient to start a conversation as long as you are capable of having one at any resonable intelligence level.

It seems that those of the MyFaceSpaceBook crowd need to have their entire life story on display for all to see, in order to have "Plug and Play " friends. No one wants to do any work to get to know people any more. Talking and learning things about people, both good and bad is part of the process of socialization. It seems that it is being lost as people have less real human contact as they attach themselves more firmly to their electronic leashes. It is distressing to me, we become less human each day.

It's pretty much why I have a very sparse profile now. I am "here to have fun". Nothing more. If you want to know me better. Do it the old fashioned way. Talk to me. If it isn't worth your time to take a few minutes to do so, then you probably aren't someone I really want to know anyway.
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12-31-2008 08:48
I have to say: i agree with the OP.

Reason: because they can, they leave their principles and do it.

Example:
You can cheat in RL.. but you won't since it's againts your internals. So why do they do it here? Because they can, and nobody can confront them with it in person (if it bugs them enough, they simply log off, or put you out of the lists..). Nevertheless you cheated an avatar, a 3d model, where a REAL HUMAN (except bots ofcourse), with REAL human feelings and desires is behind it, NEVER forget that!!!

Example:

Many women, behave slutty in SL. It's a fact. With behave, i mean, a decent women in RL, that in RL wouldn't never even think about doing such thing in RL, suddenly in SL becomes a tramp, hooker or whatever more. A slutty type that lure males into whatnot..
It's very weird behavior, since it's completely the opposite of the RL person behind the avatar's personality or principles.
So why do they do it? Because they CAN, without having to deal with the consequences.

example:
Many males in SL, are sex hungy beyond normal. I watched it closely, and whitnessed/studied it. As soon as a woman, looks nice in sl, most males, show more than usual interrest in her. As if their penis (or brain) gives a signal "defcon 5!!" in sexual terms. And they start making the move to get between her legs.
That's their goal mainly.
A quick shack with the lady (you don't even know! maybe it a MALE in RL! haha).
BUT, now the funny part, those males are in RL married or in relationship, just like the lady is.
The lady keeps her standards and principles, and is not seeking this kind of interactivity in sl. The males however, do. And thus let their principles and such go, just for the virtual sex sake. This is plain stupid, and immoral even if you think about it. You have a love in RL, if you are in the mood, go to RL then. Logically, since the marriage, or relationship in RL is not there for only fun sakes, but from the heart. I am a male, yes, but i'm one of the few out there in SL, that behaves true from the heart.

My advise, act as you really would in RL, towards others and yourself. I do it, it's not difficult. Just see SL as virtual world, where YOU (as your RL person) are standing in. Represented as a 3d model, you control.
3d model or not, it's YOU who controls him/her/it. You decide what is being typed in, where to move to, etc etc.
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12-31-2008 08:51
From: Damien1 Thorne
Profile analysis should be left for finding serial killers.

So... how big is that whip of yours? Does it keep Llamas under control?


Indeed ;)

But as you can see, this all started with HIM wielding the paddle, so what's good for the goose.....
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12-31-2008 08:57
There are a multitude of excuses for having a sparse profile, and very few good reasons.

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12-31-2008 08:58
From: Amaranthim Talon
There is an Interests tab? I may have the name wrong but it is there. Same place as u put language.


No, I didn't mean that building area or whatever it is with the check boxes, if that's what you meant? I meant a place to write your interests such as looking to meet people with similar interests in __________________ (fill in the blanks). It can help with that endless searching. Though searching is fun and sometimes you find something you would have never found before, a better thought out profile area couldn't hurt in finding what type of "fun" or entertainment you are searching for in SL. Someone could see what you are looking for in your profile and say oh I know of some particular sims you might find interesting.

Also, the events area of this forum has helped me find some interesting things.

So to the OP, check the events area on secondlife.com.
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12-31-2008 09:08
Doubtful the OP is even paying attention. We're all here just for amusements sake at this point.
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12-31-2008 09:09
From: Elora Lunasea
Doubtful the OP is even paying attention. We're all here just for amusements sake at this point.

Yeah the OP bailed out of this thread very quickly. :D

Maybe it was something we said...
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12-31-2008 09:11
From: Elora Lunasea
Doubtful the OP is even paying attention. We're all here just for amusements sake at this point.


Well, OK...amuse me! :p
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12-31-2008 09:13
From: Elora Lunasea
Doubtful the OP is even paying attention. We're all here just for amusements sake at this point.

And this is different form any other thread?
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12-31-2008 09:25
From: Maureen Boccaccio
Well, OK...amuse me! :p


There was the Rabbi, Priest and Buddhist and they walked into a Deviant Thread....
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