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Dakota Tebaldi
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01-20-2010 11:44
From: Mickey Vandeverre No, Scylla is not my enabler.
You're very clearly making most of the points that I expressed. I engaged you in a conversation to try to explain why your threads erupt, and go in a direction that bothers you. Where "engaged in a conversation to try to explain" equals calling someone a self-centered attention-seeking instigator, I suppose that's true.
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Cristalle Karami
Lady of the House
Join date: 4 Dec 2006
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01-20-2010 11:48
From: Jig Chippewa I am not going to let this forum be taken over by a small group of peopel who ar etrying to stir things up because I post. I dont know who they are. For all I know these are variants and alts of Pep, and we are caught in the same frustrating cycle. Anyone who posts is now going to be "disciplined" by a stream of short and "offended" posts that quash any ideas as suddenly as cold air on souffle.
I dont want you to go Scylla. But if you go, then I go. And the whole process for commentary and critique is handed over to a group of sl citizens who are alt or mocking us.
"Apres moi le deluge" No, you're going to continue to try to control it yourself by keeping your name on top, because you aren't happy with the conversation that goes on. You continue to abuse a community resource. It's so convenient to disparage the views of someone who is a lurker, who isn't a regular, and to categorize those regulars who don't agree with you as bullies. Who's the bully now? If you get mocked, you earn it. Not that I wish to mock you, but you continually demonstrate how disconnected you are from societal values. You ease your mind by placing yourself above it in your head, and dismissing others' views as "complacent," "mundane" or other euphemisms for "beneath me." You invite the criticism and then play a victim. Choose the role you want. You can't have both. If you want to be a provocateur, then take what comes with it or stop. But you don't learn, so we'll be back down this route in short order.
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Darcy Urvilan
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01-20-2010 11:50
I am not going to let this forum be taken over by a small group of peopel who ar etrying to stir things up because I post. I dont know who they are
And just what gives you the right to say that? Same as 'who are you people'. Guess what? we have the same rights as you. Just because we don't like what you say doesn't mean that we don't have the right to express our views too.
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Darcy Urvilan
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01-20-2010 11:54
Ant btw we don't care what happens after you have gone either.
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Brenda Connolly
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01-20-2010 12:02
From: Void Singer depends... there is an upside to these threads in that people make a point of posting in them (for or against doesn't matter), and thereby are coming to the forum more often, which allows people to assist others with more direct question in a much faster manner...
which is notably an effect that cannot be achieved in the blogroms, where information is overly compartmentalized Yes. When I came here in Jan 07, it was right after the great purge, and RA was pretty much a ghost town. It was very dull and boring.. Gradually it started to loosen up and become more active. there were OT/Jokes and banter threads sure, but a lot of questions were being asked, and answered here. Rarely was a legitimate question derailed if the answer were known. RA is the only Forum I read with any regularity. It is part of the entertainment I derive from SL. If it remained the way it was back in early '07, I would have never stayed. We wouldn't need LL to close it, it would have withered and died on it's own. The "problem" threads are pretty easy to spot and avoid, IF you really want to. I think some prefer to cluck their tongues in frustration until thier personal issue arises and then they pull out a soapbox along with the rest of us.
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Peggy Paperdoll
A Brat
Join date: 15 Apr 2006
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01-20-2010 12:15
From: Brenda Connolly ..........
The "problem" threads are pretty easy to spot and avoid, IF you really want to. I think some prefer to cluck their tongues in frustration until thier personal issue arises and then they pull out a soapbox along with the rest of us.
Guilty!! I admit I do that sometimes.....depends on my mood.  So, perhaps that's why I sort of "get" what Jig does. The problem I have is what, exactly, does it do that harms the forums? If anything it enhances the forums.......makes it interesting. It allows one to determine who might be one to give good or accurate answers. I know, from nearly 4 years of participation in these forums who is likely to know what they are talking about on any subject........and who does nothing but express personal views on other's behaviour. If the forums go away it will not be because of threads such as this or posts expressing personal views and ideas. It will be because Linden Lab wanted it to go away. Ain't a damne thing we can do about it either.
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Brenda Connolly
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01-20-2010 12:23
From: Peggy Paperdoll Guilty!! I admit I do that sometimes.....depends on my mood.  So, perhaps that's why I sort of "get" what Jig does. The problem I have is what, exactly, does it do that harms the forums? If anything it enhances the forums.......makes it interesting. It allows one to determine who might be one to give good or accurate answers. I know, from nearly 4 years of participation in these forums who is likely to know what they are talking about on any subject........and who does nothing but express personal views on other's behaviour. If the forums go away it will not be because of threads such as this or posts expressing personal views and ideas. It will be because Linden Lab wanted it to go away. Ain't a damne thing we can do about it either. Total agreement. I really think they had hoped they would have died by themselves back then. Shame on us for deciding to have some fun and make something of them again. I too don't believe anything we say or do will influence their plans for the place. The current rulers are bottom line, cut and dry marketing types. Whatever is scribbled on their whteboard is what they will do. I still say the best action is to update the software and leave them alone.
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Mickey Vandeverre
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01-20-2010 12:44
From: Peggy Paperdoll I know, from nearly 4 years of participation in these forums who is likely to know what they are talking about on any subject........and who does nothing but express personal views on other's behaviour.
. Part of the original post was commentary on "behavior." Going about SL every day....usually involves a lot of human interaction and behavior. Kind of hard to get around discussing that, in most topics. For a lot of topics it all boils down to behavior. And any time we express a view on it....it will generally be "personal", as we are speaking from our own thought processes. I wouldn't want to see that squelched. I learn a lot from behavior, and watching how others respond. It can be very enlightening. Surely others learn, too.
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Peggy Paperdoll
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01-20-2010 13:07
From: Mickey Vandeverre Part of the original post was commentary on "behavior." Going about SL every day....usually involves a lot of human interaction and behavior. Kind of hard to get around discussing that, in most topics. For a lot of topics it all boils down to behavior. And any time we express a view on it....it will generally be "personal", as we are speaking from our own thought processes.
I wouldn't want to see that squelched. I learn a lot from behavior, and watching how others respond. It can be very enlightening. Surely others learn, too. I'm beginning to feel some of Jig's frustration.  What you just said had nothing to do with what I said in the paragraph you chose to take out of context. I said, as clearly as I could, that after 45 months of participation in these forums that I know who I can rely on to give good or accurate information on any given subject or topic..........AND WHO SPENDS MOST OF THEIR POSTS SPEAKING TO ANOTHER'S BEHAVIOR. Which is quite different from what you are saying about my post. The word behavior is a single word in a paragraph.....it was NOT the the subject of the paragraph. The subject of my paragraph is "who I believe to be reliable sources for information" I was not, at that point, talking about behavior. I won't call you a bully............but I wll call you someone who argues for the sake of arguing. Stay on subject if you want to argue with me........or at least quote the portions of my statements that pertain to whatever it is that you disagree with.
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Mickey Vandeverre
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01-20-2010 13:24
From: Peggy Paperdoll I'm beginning to feel some of Jig's frustration.  What you just said had nothing to do with what I said in the paragraph you chose to take out of context. I said, as clearly as I could, that after 45 months of participation in these forums that I know who I can rely on to give good or accurate information on any given subject or topic..........AND WHO SPENDS MOST OF THEIR POSTS SPEAKING TO ANOTHER'S BEHAVIOR. Which is quite different from what you are saying about my post. The word behavior is a single word in a paragraph.....it was NOT the the subject of the paragraph. The subject of my paragraph is "who I believe to be reliable sources for information" I was not, at that point, talking about behavior. I won't call you a bully............but I wll call you someone who argues for the sake of arguing. Stay on subject if you want to argue with me........or at least quote the portions of my statements that pertain to whatever it is that you disagree with. If you feel as though it is "arguing"....then there is no sense in me responding, to explain further. It was simply an exchange in thoughts. I don't believe that I was disagreeing on anything, but expanding. Pardon.
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Windsweptgold Wopat
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01-20-2010 13:52
First off I am not Pep I am not an Alt I am who I say I am. Secondly Jig your attack on someone because they have only had 55 posts. DO you only allow ppl who have had what 100 , 500 , 1000 posts to be able to put their view? Maybe that person has not had the need to see their name in cyber lights every day like some. Maybe that person has read many of the things you have gone on about and decided enough is enough and put fingers to keyboard.
You have the habit of starting something then when its not all about you you start another thread and again as others have said,If you want a discussion then stop making it always personal because then the responses will be personal.
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Jig Chippewa
Fine Young Cannibal
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01-20-2010 15:22
Okay, people, this shallow routine of "Miss! Jig hurt my feelings!", "Miss, Jig dissed my momma", Miss! Jig called me fat" is gettign a bit too much. F**k's sake, have some of you lived in basements all your lives? Are you so angry at the world the only pleasure you get is sharing your hurt with everyone else?
Forums is fun cos people here should be having fun. We should be giving this place a going over with comments and clear statements and just taking the pi** outta life a bit more than we do.
Dont get your knickers in a twist over everything I say. And if you dont like my threads then gimme an example of your own ideas and let me loose on them. Gloves off. 'Bout effing time I stopped being "nice" to some of you Pep-sis out there.
Get a life and use sl as a place to relax from your life. (Typed at a particularly pleasant airport lounge with a particularly wellmade cup of Sumatran coffee by my side for those of you who hate or gnash their teeth at me - "Jig" - and anyone else like me)
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Windsweptgold Wopat
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01-20-2010 17:05
From: Jig Chippewa Okay, people, this shallow routine of "Miss! Jig hurt my feelings!", "Miss, Jig dissed my momma", Miss! Jig called me fat" is gettign a bit too much. F**k's sake, have some of you lived in basements all your lives? Are you so angry at the world the only pleasure you get is sharing your hurt with everyone else?
Forums is fun cos people here should be having fun. We should be giving this place a going over with comments and clear statements and just taking the pi** outta life a bit more than we do.
Dont get your knickers in a twist over everything I say. And if you dont like my threads then gimme an example of your own ideas and let me loose on them. Gloves off. 'Bout effing time I stopped being "nice" to some of you Pep-sis out there.
Get a life and use sl as a place to relax from your life. (Typed at a particularly pleasant airport lounge with a particularly wellmade cup of Sumatran coffee by my side for those of you who hate or gnash their teeth at me - "Jig" - and anyone else like me) It seems Miss Jig you cant take what you give. You are judgmental something you claim we all are and yes in this case i am. You want an idea of mine you can let loose on fine here is one . Why would someone who has any self respect feel the need to use others and then carry on when those others are not there for them. A term we use here is " a fine weather friend"? ( Typed at her home with her children in the other room making lunch for her. Her daughter all excited at getting accepted into Uni Then she will be packing her bags for the trip tomorrow to spend time with her other child and her grandson. Just does not get any better now does it )
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Peggy Paperdoll
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01-20-2010 17:37
/me wonders where all these psychiatrists came from. Self respect/self esteem? Where someone can conclude that anyone else has no self respect by the posts and responses given in a forum is just beyond me. All I get from Jig's threads and posts is that she generally goes against the grain of most people here..........I don't see that as a bad thing. I actually disagree with a lot of what she says.........and, yes, some of her posts are caustic. But, again, I don't see that as a bad thing. Maybe I haven't read enough of her posts but I've never seen her single someone out until that same person has first taken a shot at her......using derogatory expressions such as "self respect" (the lack of). What do you expect of her in a response? You want her to admit she's some nut or something? You don't like what she says then two things you can do..........ignore or respond with your views. But when you get personally personal expect some sort of retaliation.......it's human nature to defend your self. And defending yourself is a show of seft respect...........which you claim she has none. Who are you to know who she respects or does not respect (including herself)? And, for what it's worth. Typed at my desk while watching FOX News Channel on the historical Special Election upset in MA. 
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Void Singer
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01-20-2010 17:38
TBH all this talk of "bullying" is a load of bull...
it's a forum
people speak their minds, and not always in agreement.
if you can't handle, or don't value, what someone is saying, feel free to ignore it or call BS, but pretending there's some moral high ground to be had in whose opinion matters more, or who has a right to post a conflicting opinion is laughable and ultimately pointless... for either side.
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Pussycat Catnap
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01-20-2010 17:54
From: Brenda Connolly But that's usually when the fun starts. We all love train wrecks. OT I know but... Used to know a fireman who had to go to a few train wrecks... I can never read/hear the phrase anymore without thinking of the stories he told me. He was also a combat vet, which he'd found to have been a more pleasant experience.
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Scylla Rhiadra
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01-20-2010 18:00
What I'm wondering is . . .
Does this thread need pie?
(Hey, it worked once!)
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Mickey Vandeverre
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01-20-2010 18:08
From: Jig Chippewa Okay, people, this shallow routine of "Miss! Jig hurt my feelings!", "Miss, Jig dissed my momma", Miss! Jig called me fat" is gettign a bit too much. F**k's sake, have some of you lived in basements all your lives? Are you so angry at the world the only pleasure you get is sharing your hurt with everyone else?
Forums is fun cos people here should be having fun. We should be giving this place a going over with comments and clear statements and just taking the pi** outta life a bit more than we do.
Dont get your knickers in a twist over everything I say. And if you dont like my threads then gimme an example of your own ideas and let me loose on them. Gloves off. 'Bout effing time I stopped being "nice" to some of you Pep-sis out there.
Get a life and use sl as a place to relax from your life. (Typed at a particularly pleasant airport lounge with a particularly wellmade cup of Sumatran coffee by my side for those of you who hate or gnash their teeth at me - "Jig" - and anyone else like me) ah, I see that the suggestion on not flinging insults, went over well. Are you roleplaying two different characters in one thread?
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Brenda Connolly
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01-20-2010 18:17
From: Pussycat Catnap OT I know but...
Used to know a fireman who had to go to a few train wrecks... I can never read/hear the phrase anymore without thinking of the stories he told me. He was also a combat vet, which he'd found to have been a more pleasant experience. As the daughter of a New York City Firefighter who put in 30 years on the job, believe me, I've heard all the stories. *Typed sitting at my desk with my dog laying next to it snoring.
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Lou Laa
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01-20-2010 18:25
/me munches on popcorn as he sits back and takes in the entertainment.
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Brenda Connolly
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01-20-2010 18:26
From: Lou Laa /me munches on popcorn as he sits back and takes in the entertainment. We do 2 shows on Fridays.
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Lou Laa
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01-20-2010 18:27
From: Brenda Connolly We do 2 shows on Fridays. That's why I bought season's tickets 
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Mickey Vandeverre
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01-20-2010 18:33
From: Lou Laa /me munches on popcorn as he sits back and takes in the entertainment. I came up from the basement to get a glass of wine. Haven't seen Sybil in a long time.
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Ann Otoole
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01-20-2010 18:35
From: Jig Chippewa Okay, people, this shallow routine of "Miss! Jig hurt my feelings!", "Miss, Jig dissed my momma", Miss! Jig called me fat" is gettign a bit too much. F**k's sake, have some of you lived in basements all your lives? Are you so angry at the world the only pleasure you get is sharing your hurt with everyone else?
Forums is fun cos people here should be having fun. We should be giving this place a going over with comments and clear statements and just taking the pi** outta life a bit more than we do.
Dont get your knickers in a twist over everything I say. And if you dont like my threads then gimme an example of your own ideas and let me loose on them. Gloves off. 'Bout effing time I stopped being "nice" to some of you Pep-sis out there.
Get a life and use sl as a place to relax from your life. (Typed at a particularly pleasant airport lounge with a particularly wellmade cup of Sumatran coffee by my side for those of you who hate or gnash their teeth at me - "Jig" - and anyone else like me) People call me anything and everything. Probably because they know I won't go fruit loops on them for expressing their right to an opinion. I may go fruit loops but usually over something totally stupid. And only under certain conditions of "impairment". If you can't take criticism then don't type a letter on the internet. Oh and don't drink and type. You can go to jail for saying stupid crap now that our freedom is gone. If you are buzzed just log off.
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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01-20-2010 18:36
There's better programming on TVLand.
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