Resident Answers and Computer Manual Syndrome

Dear Mickey,
I will correct you, as you asked. I have no idea who you are in sl or in forums but taking my comments as specifically addressed to you is up to you. I am actually disturbed enough by your response here , since you are following a Pep-pattern of appearing whenever certain threads are created. Create your own threads and dont ride my lights.
You happen to be presenting yourself as a bully. And like most bullies I have ever met you call insult a discussion and vice versa to suit your needs and invent "hurt feelings" to appeal to others who enjoy the argument and prefer to ride the bully's coat-tails. I am not hurt by your comments. Simply puzzled, since I have never done you wrong in sl as far as I recall - for example, did I sleep with you or diss you in teh past? If I did, I dont remember.
I dont find men particularly unplesant but I do find many of them to be mean-spirited and insulting. Are you a man? But then again, I find many women to be exactly the same.
You wont cause me to refrain from posting. But I doubt if you can ever know what it is I want. And anyway, I'm not telling you.

Your readership? YOUR READERSHIP?

This is a Resident Answers forum, not your personal blog. I repeat, THIS IS NOT YOUR PERSONAL BLOG. I'm repeating it and using all caps for emphasis because you never seem to get it, not matter how many times countless others point it out to you.

You don't get that, and other residents enable you day after day.

I know you won't get this either, because you don't really listen to anything others say. You claim to be part of this community but you really are just a deeply self-absorbed person who uses and abuses this forum and goes against its purpose time and time again. Yes, others post non-appropriate stuff, but they do it inside threads, they don't start multiple threads that are are against the rules on a consistent basis.

If this forum does go away soon, know that you helped more than any other person who comes here to hasten its demise.

Maybe instead of pleading to Mr. Linden, you should plead to yourself to do the right thing: Stop creating threads here that are not real SL resident questions. Start a blog. Put the link in your signature here so your "readership" can find you. Then post there to your heart's content.

I no longer expect you to stop posting here. But if you truly value this place, never start another inappropriate thread on this forum.

Personally I'd rather see Jig posting free, and the forum's demise, than a totally straightjacketed experience.

And if Jig is too much for this forum to handle... it ain't Jig that's the problem.

This platform is going to have a general discussion area in a forum. It's up to the Company to decide if it wants to be in control of it... or if Cristiano is going to be in control of it over at SLUniverse. Then they can buy it off him for zillions in a few years, when they realise how critical it is, just like they had to do with SLExchange.

It's pretty much that simple.

Not really. And who are you, and when did you get here anyway?

Not saying we need a totally straightjacketed experience. There are at least two ongoing general discussion/pie pictures threads that always stay on the first page. When she has her musings or wants to be "droll" as she puts it, she could post there. The reason she doesn't is because she has to share attention there. The fact that she refuses and starts highly visible thread after thread is a blatant disregard for the rules.

Posting free is fine. Starting her blog threads free is going to cost everyone here in the long run.

You became highly successful and are well-respected here because you achieved success without abusing SL rules or the rules of this forum. The fact that she doesn't is why she will never be respected by anybody who understands the definition of the word "community".

I'm who I am and I got here in 2006.

Ah, I see you are one of her "readership". Don't worry, I pose no threat to your favorite blogger.

Trent,don't even waste your breath. It's like talking to a five year old. Just put her on ignore and live in bliss like me now.

Great advice. Thanks.

See, Jig...this is why it's so hard to have a communication with you. In paragraph 1, you are evasive about whether or not you are addressing this thread to me or the people who made comments in the other thread, that you did not approve of. Yet, in paragraph 2....you address me as a "bully", and continue on about bullies. That implies that yes, you did use this thread to address me and others.

You are correct that I follow a pattern .....I show up when I see people being insulted.....and I show up when I see hypocrisy and contradictions and double standards on posting etiquette, and an abuse of the system. Count on it. I'm not riding your coattails....it's just that it happens most often in "your" threads. No way in hell, did I ever sleep with you, and that comment was unnecessary and insulting.....low blow. The bullying comments are insulting as well. You clearly do insult people.

If you're going to challenge with your thoughts....expect a challenge back. The bullying comments are off base and incorrect. You were challenged in a way that makes you uncomfortable....that's all.....but you promote this type of challenge by continually saying that you, yourself, like to toss out thoughts that make people uncomfortable, and you do it on purpose. Same applies to insults. If you're going to fling insults....expect them to come back.

I agree with Trent....that probably the worst threat to these forums is to have this kind of stuff going on. But you started it. You can be your own "conversation manager"......and take responsibility for what you toss out, and word it more appropriately, and respond more thoughtfully, without the insults. Even this thread, was an abuse....it's pretty clear what it was intended for......another rise....and you got it.

Ah, the old "oh, he's just a democrat/republican/atheist/superstitious fool, so there's no reason to even consider what he says" trick.

Rumors of the death of the forum are handed down to us from (relative) generations ago; certainly from a time preceding the advent of Jig's blogging. The longest thread on these here forums contains even less substantive content. Jig does seem to have a "let's talk about me" kind of attitude; but she's neither the first nor the worst in that regard by far.

I think what she's looking for is to discuss why or why not certain kinds of -behavior- are allowable/not allowable/right/wrong, whether than discussing what a wonderful/horrible person she herself may be. Her way of calling attention to issues by using herself as a template sort of sabotages her intent; and I know exactly how that is, because every time I try to discuss a certain, completely innocuous aspect of behavior or psychology involving child avatars, certain people on the forums manage to always, -always- turn it into a discussion about sex and why kid avs shouldn't be allowed at all. So I feel sorry for her, is all.

You and I must be reading different threads.

As far as I'm concerned.....the line isn't that fine. It's pretty bold and clear. Quite evident to me, that it has been crossed, yet again.

You are wise beyond your years.Just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean the Lindens aren't after me (us).

Well, as a generalization, I still stand by this. But a coda missing from my description relates to the way that threads evolve, and quarrels escalate. This thread is no longer the same thread that I was describing above.

I wish everyone would step back and take a deep breath.

As for me, this is not a place I want to be.

The thread evolved, exactly as it was intended to....just as most of them do. The cues were handed out in the first post, as they generally are. I don't mind being in this "place" and pointing that out. If you don't care to be in this place.....then avoid the enabling.

Who *are* you people who have suddenly appeared in forum? 55 posts to your name and you have the audacity to define what I should be doing? You are an alt or a troll.
Even your name is suspiciously something Pep would devise as he did when he absented himself last year.

Well.....so much for being concerned about this....

I am not going to let this forum be taken over by a small group of peopel who ar etrying to stir things up because I post. I dont know who they are. For all I know these are variants and alts of Pep, and we are caught in the same frustrating cycle. Anyone who posts is now going to be "disciplined" by a stream of short and "offended" posts that quash any ideas as suddenly as cold air on souffle.

I dont want you to go Scylla. But if you go, then I go. And the whole process for commentary and critique is handed over to a group of sl citizens who are alt or mocking us.

"Apres moi le deluge"

Oh, pish to you. Put me on your ignore and do us all a favour.

Scylla is *not* your renabler, for god's sake. What on earth are you on about? You are almost certainly Pep or modelling yourself on him.

depends... there is an upside to these threads in that people make a point of posting in them (for or against doesn't matter), and thereby are coming to the forum more often, which allows people to assist others with more direct question in a much faster manner...

which is notably an effect that cannot be achieved in the blogroms, where information is overly compartmentalized

I got to agree that there is a small "elite" group here that, whenever possible, attempt to shut down discussions. They aways take the "I'm offended", "you're a troll", "shut up, you're ruining the forums" or some such approach in threads they disagree with. I've met them a few times in these forums..........I've made enemies too. The problem with those are they very often call you out specifically so it's hard not to respond to clarify some statement that has been taken out of context or distorted..........and THAT more than anything gets the forum fights going. Not the OP's thread so much..........if you don't want to participate someone's thread then don't open it. But they always do. They do it with the express intent of attempting to take you down.......diss you, or otherwise spit venom in your direction.

I don't start many threads but I still get that venom on occassions when I make a comment on some certain subjects that are contrary to that elite groups thinking. But, you (Jig) do start a good number of threads........which opens up the range where those elitists can take aim at you. I don't always understand what it is that you are wanting to say. I don't always agree with you. I do always see someone (from the very same group of "blessed" few) take the shots.

And the demise of the Forums has been threatened since about June 6, 2006. Jig, Pep, me or anyone else won't be the reason...........stop the stupid BS of pointing fingers. Talk about being childish..........sheesh!!!

No, Scylla is not my enabler.

You're very clearly making most of the points that I expressed. I engaged you in a conversation to try to explain why your threads erupt, and go in a direction that bothers you. I did not insult you in the process. It's your choice on how you want to respond. I do consider the above, another insult.

I've never noticed much elitism in these forums. There was a distinct whiff of it at SLU, where several oldbie creators fled after this forum's General Discussion area was closed in 2006. But even there, it seems to be fading, as newer people take over the bulk of the posting. I'm less familiar with SCII, but it seems to suffer a bit from mob mentality, not exactly elitism. Probably that'll work itself out with time.

I DO see a lot of discussion of individual personalities here lately, with threads being started only to discuss some one person's preferences or foibles. Such threads invite folks to contribute their OWN intensely held personal preferences and foibles, and go downhill quickly.

Jig, I think your recent threads have tried to take a more sociologic view of the questions you raise; they might be more successful if you were able to avoid describing your own personal preferences and behaviors in phrasing your questions. Make it more theoretical, and you've a better chance of avoiding discussions of personalities.

/me gently slides 2cents under the mic and tiptoes out of the thread.
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I know it's hard to believe that more than one person finds your self-serving, self-indulgent, selfish social commentary threads to be inappropriate for a Resident Answers forum, but I'm not Pep.