Looking for first land? Try a search right now!

Just trying to help you all out there, why not make a thread about when it's available.

Please see the last post for availability

It's currently available in 7 sims:

Yarmouth, Tahoe, Cascade, Coda, Rainier, Appalachia, Carroll.

Good Luck

EDIT: ALL SOLD OUT. I hope some of you saw this and got first land -- it sure is hard to get nowadays.

Because we don't need more forum litter

This thread prompted me to look at the first land search results just for something to do and to my surprise there were ten first land parcels returned by the land sales first land search.

Attempting to teleport to them, I get the message "Could not teleport. You are not allowed into the destination."

Would this be the result of the land actually already being purchased and land restrictions put in place or has LL banned people like me who have already purchased land from entering First Land parcels, or what?

You might be encoutering the same thing someone reported a few days ago: /327/ef/162190/1.html.

what's first land?

It's the best deal you'll ever get in Second Life -- a 512sqm parcel of land for only L512.

I consider myself extremely lucky that I was able to snag a FL parcel last night. A member since early December, I had been extremely frustrated over the lack of first land...and even more frustrated that when I *have* been able to TP into a first land zone to look at the land up for grabs, that it had already been snagged by someone else who immediately hiked up the price and set the land for sale between $8,000-$12,000 L.

But, as I said, I got extremely lucky last night after several weeks of searching for FL. I consider myself to be EVEN LUCKIER because all my surrounding neighbors appear to be actually using their first land as it was intended: to build their own little nook in SL! There's one or two parcels for sale further down "the block" but we have a nice little group of SL residents all clustered together, calling their new first land "home."

For those still searching for land... don't give up! Make search your friend and keep checking search every now and then while you play SL!

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I was just as frustrated when I was trying to get my FL. When they became available I TPed to the first one I could access and hit the buy button as soon as I landed. Soon after more and more people kept of appearing.

Moral of the sotry is... act fast.

My lovely partner Tril got first land a few weeks ago. It wasn't easy, even with me sitting in the same room talking her through it.

Here's some rules for getting it:

Search for it on a regular basis. If you're in search to find a person or store, do a search for first land. Make sure the settings are right and that you're not limiting based on size or something. Have your friends do the same thing. And most importantly, ask your friends to do the same thing and let you know if something pops up!

If you see some first land and don't get it, keep hitting refresh on the search. They usually dump land in batches. Sometimes even one parcel at a time. So if something was available 2 minutes ago, there might be something new in a minute.

You have to have a premium account. It is supposed to let you upgrade your account as you buy the land. That doesn't work. Instead the whole thing fails and someone else gets it. My partner got stuck on this one. She lost three lands that she had buy boxes open for because it failed. The next time land came up she upgraded on the website while hovering over the land and then clicked buy.

Don't be fussy. Port onto the thing and click buy. You're not going to find the perfect island paradise, snowy hillside, or vibrant commercial area that you want. You're going to get a tiny plot of land and a skybox--your neigbors are all going to be FOR SALE signs for months because a land baron will buy in 3/4s of the land with fake accounts. Just cope with that reality and don't be fussy

(By the way, it was just as frustrating a year and a half ago when I got mine.)

Gawd, am I the only one who *didn't* have a problem with their first land purchase?

I went premium Nov 10th, searched for first land on Nov 14th, bought it, and have been there ever since. As a matter of fact, I ended up trading one neighbor the land my partner had in another sim for hers and just a week ago bought another plot in the same sim and traded it with my other neighbor. I was pleasantly surprised at how easy it was to become a landowner with the first land program.

But then again, I wasn't really expecting to become a landowner and just TP'd to the land to see what it offered. Now I have my own little kingdom of 1536 m2 and my prince and I are very happy there.

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This is just disappointing. A year ago when i got my account, first land was easy to get. I've gotten a lot of my friends to come play SL, and told them that premium accounts get them land and stipend and then we couldn't find first land for them. Why promise something that isn't available? It seems unfair somehow. I think i'd be very upset if I were a new premium account and couldn't get land.

No one is guaranteed First Land. It's an option available to premium members. Not something LL hands you just for signing up. It's been said many times over in this forum. There's no reason to go premium until you see some FL. When you see FL in the search upgrade to premium on the website and buy the FL. It helps if there aren't 27k users on at the same time lagging up the place of course. I've noticed that around 9pm SL time FL has been released a few times. Maybe it's something the Lindens do during happy hour or something.

I'm sorry, but I disagree on a few points. A benefit that is seldom available is no benefit at all. Even worse, a benefit that I have to work very hard at (search...none found...seach...none found...."Hi, watcha doin'?"...search....none found...."I'm searching, sorry, can't chat.".....search.....none found) detracts from the SL experience. Since it is one of the few benefits to premium membership, I'm determined to take advantage of it but I shouldn't have to work this hard on it.

How about this -- put people on a waiting list when they get their premium account. When new land is available and their name comes up, they have the option of buying one of the plots. There would have to be some thought put into things like whether you favor people online, what happens if someone declines the option, etc., but any sort of system like this would be vastly preferable to "search....none found....search....none found".

Also, going Premium when you see FL is just going to delay you getting to the FL which means you won't get the FL. You have to be ready to buy the instant you see it or you won't get it.....at least that's my assumption based on four solid days of searching and only seeing 1 (horrid, hole-in-the-ground) plot come up.

Please understand I'm not trying to flame you....the fault is with the system of handing out FL. Either more FL needs to be made available (a lot more) or they need to change the distribution of it.

Being a premium member does not guarantee first land... "Please note: First Land plots are subject to availability." It only guarantees that you CAN BUY land.

Here is the link to the membership plan. http://secondlife.com/whatis/plans.php No where does it say, you are guaranteed to be able to buy first land.

Sure, first land would have been nice, but it's on a first come first served basis. I didn't even bother with it, I found what I wanted and bought it.

See all the other numerous threads about first land... it's debated back and forth over and over again.

I'm aware of that. But holding out something as a benefit that is very difficult to actually get is poor salesmanship at best.



I've seen other people say the same thing, and that is your choice to make. You're basically forgoing a benefit that will never come again, but since that benefit takes so much effort you may have made a wise choice.

I don't think I'm being unreasonable by being unhappy about this and calling for the system to change. If I were demanding that I get my choice of plots wherever and whenever I want, that would be unreasonable. All I'm saying is that this benefit needs to be more accessible to the people who are paying good money for it.

Make it so you can't sell it for 90 days (means the cost for the account in that time is about what it's worth if you sell it and convert the lindens to US$) and you will see plenty of first land all the time.

Well the lack of FL has no effect on the SL experience unless that's the only you're doing while in-world. Which is your choice. I spent the first six months wandering around landless before deciding I wanted land. Took about 2 months of searching off and on before I found some. In the meantime I made friends, learned how to build, went clubbing, etc.

I think putting any more responsibilities in the hands of LL is asking for trouble. Who's maintaining this waiting list? How is it organized? Who gets priority? Do you get a pick of land or just what they offer you? Even if you're on the waiting list it could take even longer than it does now because of the land barons alts hogging up the queue.

You've been in SL less than a month. Yes, I think it's unreasonable to be complaining about not getting any FL. Relax and practice building so you'll have a fabulous custom home for when your little 512 comes along. And then you can know the true hell of 117 prims.

The amount of time I've been in SL does not matter. If this were something free, then I could see where I need to "earn" the benefit by being around for a while. That's not the case though. I'm a paying customer and I am paying for a benefit that I'm not getting; I fail to understand why I should not be unhappy about that nor why I should not complain about something that is so obviously in need of improving.

I'm excited about SL in many ways. I have met a lot of people, spent too many l$ on clothes and avatars and I am playing with building, writing scripts, etc. That's all well and good but does not change the fact that this particular part of the service is not done well.




The following is just my suggestion. There is almost certainly a better solution -- the point is that almost anything would be better than the current situation, including the elimination of the First Land benefit.

LL is providing the service, so naturally they should manage a waiting list. You would be placed on it when you sign up for Premium Service. If you purchase non-FL land then you would be removed from the list. Priority would be in the order people signed up.
As Kathy mentioned, you could add a stipulation that FL can only be sold after 90 days to make FL-gobbling unprofitable. All of this could be done automatically by the way, no human intervention needed.

As for choosing land, that gets more interesting. Let's say you're first on the waiting list and 10 plots become available. You and the next 9 people on the list would each be given the option to buy one of those plots. If you pass on the option, the next person without an option (#11 in this example) now gets the option and so on until someone buys it.

One problem is that people holding options may not be online. I would suggest sending an email in that case as well as setting an expiration for options. For example, LL could give you 1 day to use your option or lose it.

If you pass on an option, you would either keep your position on the waiting list or be moved to the end. I'm not sure which I favor personally. The former might mean that the same person keeps holding up the list while the latter would almost force you to take the first option that comes up unless you don't mind waiting.

Another twist would be to say that options are only made available to you if you're online when the SL plot becomes available. I'm not really fond of that one because it's a bit of a lottery but at least it should mean that the process won't get hung up waiting for someone to log in. In this case you would not lose your place on the list if you're offline when your number comes up.

Again, this is just one possibility and probably not the best one. I just would like to see this change for the better.

There's a whole bunch of first land listed up at the moment. If you don't have land and are reading this, I'd recommend you do a search fast!

EDIT: All gone

I would expect land to be easily obtainable when i read a banner on the community page of this site that says... Upgrade to Premium to own your own land.

Sure, it's not talking about First Land... but that's what I suspect most people believe: you pay a price and you get a product.

If the situation improves with First Land, then I believe, you can at a later stage, sell your land and still qualify for a First Land Plot. I'm pretty certain I read this elsewhere.
Also, by being premium, you can own 512 sm whether First Land or market cost, tier free, hence still only a one off payment.

It's not meant to work this way but for some reason it does. The 'First Land Swoopers' have been exploiting this flaw for some time now. I sincerely hope that LL fix this exploit very soon so that land prices and first land availability can return to a more sensibile levels. Furthermore I am stunned that LL has not combed thru the account histories of the various First Land Swoopers and their alts and banned them for abusing the First Land Program.

Ah! didn't see this as a flaw .. so are you saying that having bought First Land once, I can sell it and buy again? That then is a flaw, yes.
If however, someone who's bought full-cost in impatience/error, then sells it again can still get their one First Land Plot, I consider it more a feature