PS3 Home: Sony's answer to SecondLife?
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Peekay Semyorka
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03-07-2007 12:01
A friend sent me this link: http://www.joystiq.com/2007/03/07/playstation-home-the-free-virtual-world-of-playstation-3/Truly amazing graphics. Interesting what influence Home will have on the evolution of Second Life, its community, and its commerce? -peekay
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RobbyRacoon Olmstead
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03-07-2007 12:07
Yeah, looks pretty damned good to me. It appears to be somewhat limited in some of the things that are important to me about Second Life, but I will certainly be keeping my eye on it from here on out.
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Wicked Picket
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03-07-2007 12:18
I find the $599 for the PS3 quite limiting. 
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Lee Ponzu
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03-07-2007 12:19
Second Life is betamax. It will lose to some VHS eventually.
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03-07-2007 13:09
From: Lee Ponzu Second Life is betamax. It will lose to some VHS eventually. Funny you should say that in this thread. Formats that SONY has pioneered: Betamax Minidisc UMD Blu-Ray
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Charlotte Morellet
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03-07-2007 13:24
i have read several articles about various new virtual worlds that people claim will overtake second life, but there seems to be one huge gaping hold that no one ever seems to mention... Will users be able to create and sell their own content? It doesnt look like this new PS3 world does. in which case, it isnt like second life at all. The best thing about second life is user created content and being able to profit from it. unless these other worlds want to do that, creaters will stay right here.
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RobbyRacoon Olmstead
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03-07-2007 13:35
Another story about this on Wired News. It is probably significant that this story is getting so much buzz. Whether or not it is as good as, better than, or lesser than Second Life will in my opinion turn out to be irrelevant in the long run.
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Chip Midnight
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03-07-2007 13:36
From what I've read so far about it I think any kind of user created content will be incredibly limited in scope and it doesn't sound like there's currently anything in place to enable it. Sony is being very vague about it, but did say that any user created content intended for public areas would have to be approved like it is in There. I can't see Sony devoting resources to doing that so my gut instinct at the moment is that they're only paying lipservice to a vague idea about user created content. It's a seriously cool idea as a hub for getting together with friends and clanmates between games though. Worth keeping an eye on but doesn't look like a competitor to SL in any real way beyond being a social space.
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Jackson Rickenbacker
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03-07-2007 13:38
Sony has announced a User creation platform, but hardly anything like SL http://www.joystiq.com/2007/03/07/sony-unveils-cooperative-platformer-littlebigplanet/ I doubt it will have any impact on the SL world
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Christalys Voom
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03-07-2007 13:38
Second Life should look like that now...the engine it runs on is ancient, archaic in regards to 3d. SL doesn't need a face lift, nor a makeover, it needs a skeletal transplant. If that happens, I and many others will never have a need to leave.
I'll never buy a PS3 regardless...I'd consider it if it didn't have the extra 300$ price tag added from the blue ray alone. Of course, after playing a Wii finally, what other console is even relevant?
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RobbyRacoon Olmstead
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03-07-2007 13:38
heh. Home apparently features guaranteed "first land"  Okay, not really the same thing, but each user gets their own personal space (an apartment) to customize.
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Jackson Rickenbacker
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03-07-2007 13:41
Wii is really cool, too bad they are doomed to always be the third dog behind PS and Xbox
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RobbyRacoon Olmstead
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03-07-2007 13:41
From: Chip Midnight From what I've read so far about it I think any kind of user created content will be incredibly limited in scope and it doesn't sound like there's currently anything in place to enable it. Sony is being very vague about it, but did say that any user created content intended for public areas would have to be approved like it is in There. I can't see Sony devoting resources to doing that so my gut instinct at the moment is that they're only paying lipservice to a vague idea about user created content. It's a seriously cool idea as a hub for getting together with friends and clanmates between games though. Worth keeping an eye on but doesn't look like a competitor to SL in any real way beyond being a social space. No, perhaps not a real competitor YET. But clearly companies with deep pocketbooks and experience in the online game space are testing the waters, providing additional credibility to the idea, and I strongly believe that the emergence of new online worlds inspired by SL will gain momentum quickly.
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Jackson Rickenbacker
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03-07-2007 13:42
From: RobbyRacoon Olmstead heh. Home apparently features guaranteed "first land"  Okay, not really the same thing, but each user gets their own personal space (an apartment) to customize. from what it looks like the "private" space will be in the memory card, so you'll have to buy a new memory card, not totally free, but we are talking about sony here, not SL
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RobbyRacoon Olmstead
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03-07-2007 13:44
From: Jackson Rickenbacker from what it looks like the "private" space will be in the memory card, so you'll have to buy a new memory card, not totally free, but we are talking about sony here, not SL Oh. You mean offline backups? Sweet! Your personal space doesnt reside on a temperamental asset server? I love it. Yeah, I am being somewhat sarcastic  I do love the idea, however.
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Howard Sachs
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03-07-2007 13:45
Hmm. Not scared yet. Besides, it is obviously aiming at the average people. Like.. we are kind of special putting up with this neverending beta, after all *g*. It would be nice with that kind of graphics, though.. SL with supernice graphics.. drools. No, it would be too much of the good thing, not sure if I could take it. I must say, after watching the trailer.. share the music and videos on your PS 3 HD with friends easily.. hall of fame with 3D trophy's and videoclips.. invite people to MP games.. chat with keyboard or BT headset.. Sponsor ads to keep it free of cost (?). This can be huge for PS 3 owners. I know if I get myself a PS 3 I won't hesitate to download it if it will stay free. Yes it sounds like some of the ideas are borrowed from Second Life.. but that's a good thing. By the way, the video did not work for me, but I found it at Gametrailers.com: http://www.gametrailers.comThey always have new, nice trailers to watch for free, no membership required.
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RobbyRacoon Olmstead
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03-07-2007 13:48
From: Howard Sachs Hmm. Not scared yet. Besides, it is obviously aiming at the average people. Like.. we are kind of special putting up with this neverending beta, after all *g*. It would be nice with that kind of graphics, though.. SL with supernice graphics.. drools. No, it would be too much of the good thing, not sure if I could take it. Even if it was 10x better than SL in every conceivable way I dont know why anyone would be scared besides LL... But I admit that I do desperately want Home to be wildly successful and popular. Not because I ever intend to use it, I would rather boil my left testicle in Chinese mustard than buy a PS3, but because the competition and arms race would be good for consumers and I hope for us SL residents.
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Lhorentso Nurmi
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03-07-2007 13:51
Any kind of competition is good. Should make LL sort out its product with a little bit more urgency.
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Jackson Rickenbacker
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03-07-2007 13:53
IM thinking the "private" Space will be something like a Deerhunter trophy room, if thats the case its hardly worth mentioning
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Chip Midnight
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03-07-2007 13:56
From: RobbyRacoon Olmstead No, perhaps not a real competitor YET. But clearly companies with deep pocketbooks and experience in the online game space are testing the waters, providing additional credibility to the idea, and I strongly believe that the emergence of new online worlds inspired by SL will gain momentum quickly. We can hope! Nothing would speed up development of (and investment in) SL more than some serious competition, but to me what makes SL so great is that the content is all user created. Any other 3d social space without that aspect just doesn't have nearly the appeal, even if it looks a thousand times better visually. My fingers are crossed that more developers will come out with worlds centered around user created content and user to user commerce though.
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RobbyRacoon Olmstead
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03-07-2007 14:06
From: Chip Midnight We can hope! Nothing would speed up development of (and investment in) SL more than some serious competition, but to me what makes SL so great is that the content is all user created. Any other 3d social space without that aspect just doesn't have nearly the appeal, even if it looks a thousand times better visually. My fingers are crossed that more developers will come out with worlds centered around user created content and user to user commerce though. Agreed. For me, without the ability to create content (and give it functionality via scripting) I would simply have no desire for SL or any other online world. But there are certainly a very large number of people who would be drawn to free 3D chat that looks good, without user-created content, and that by itself could make it hugely popular. Take the completely disproportionate (in my opinion) popularity of the social network sites that are all the rage these days... Functionaly useless, but immensely compelling to many anyways.
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Cristalle Karami
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03-07-2007 14:07
From: Lhorentso Nurmi Any kind of competition is good. Should make LL sort out its product with a little bit more urgency. Sure. And yet probably the biggest barrier to premium membership (to get the money to keep LL's house in order) is the high land price. If LL takes the extreme socialist route and limits the price of land, a black market for cash in addition to the stated land price will emerge - but that means that the land can't use the automated system for sale. And then LL will be criticized again, for limiting what you can do with the land. It's a no-win situation for LL because you won't please anyone. However, land prices may decline "naturally" with the emergence of such competition, as land speculators may not shell out as much to obtain virtual land that might become worthless, or might sit in their inventory too long because people are at Sony's home.
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Korwyn Obscure
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03-07-2007 14:12
We're talking about the same people who put spyware on music cd's and retconned Star Wars Galaxies and ran off almost their entire begining userbase...
Sony couldn't be competition if they tried.
The price of the unit is outrageous.
LL would be more worried if Nintendo got into the game with the online games available on the Wii and made it for free. Then there would be enough people joining to be a threat.
More Wii sold then PS3's over christmas anyway.
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RobbyRacoon Olmstead
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03-07-2007 14:16
From: Cristalle Karami Sure. And yet probably the biggest barrier to premium membership (to get the money to keep LL's house in order) is the high land price.. I respectfully disagree. The biggest barrier to premium membership is how utterly useless it is, even at the older price of $4L/m2. There is simply nothing compelling enough about having a premium membership to justify the price.
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Cristalle Karami
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03-07-2007 14:27
From: RobbyRacoon Olmstead I respectfully disagree. The biggest barrier to premium membership is how utterly useless it is, even at the older price of $4L/m2. There is simply nothing compelling enough about having a premium membership to justify the price. Possibly, but there are plenty of people out there who are on the edge of purchasing land but haven't because it's too high. Honestly, I got lucky and found First Land within 2 weeks of actually starting to look for it. If it was not for First Land, I probably wouldn't have become premium until needing a large amount of unrestricted mainland for a club or something like that.
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