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Abyssin Otoro

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Join date: 22 Jun 2006

Posts: 48

01-18-2008 14:03

From: Phil Deakins

A while back I suggested that newer avs' Picks aren't counted, but I'm now convinced that I was mistaken. I now believe that an av must have "Payment info used" for its Picks to count as a links to places. I checked quite a few such links and they all had that. None even had "Payment info on file", but that doesn't rule it out.

It means that Picks from unpaid-for alts are no good. It also means that places that offer money for Picks are highly unlikely to offer it to everyone. If they do, it'll be a waste of money. The system can check on those details for an av, so it's likely that some people will be accepted, and some won't.

Interesting idea, but I can confirm that some "No payment info on file" avatars *do*

show up in search (how? I have an alt, for testing permissions and things, with *no* payment info, and they show up just fine).

It could be the age (mine is quite old), or it could be any number of other things.

One thing I do know for certain. The search is still new and has *definitly* not indexed everything yet, so it could simply be that it has not got around to those missing avatars yet. I wonder if it has picked up all the parcels yet.

Also there are the missing parcels and avatars (that was mentioned on the blog not long ago http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/01/08/search-changes-tomorrow/ ), even if they are now all in there as of today, it will still take some time for them to get indexed.

Handy hint: If you want to know if you avatar is actually there or not, you need to know the key and then go to http://world.secondlife.com/resident/[key] replacing [key] with the avatar key.
Mine is (as an example) http://world.secondlife.com/resident/74821483-6ae9-4b5d-b669-0dcad97de4fa

Dinalya Dawes

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Join date: 23 Sep 2007

Posts: 424

01-18-2008 14:09

From: Lindal Kidd

But you only have to keep it there for 24 hours. I can see people making a career of this.

10 picks x 200 per day = 2000 per day

Just run around and sign up with ten new stores every day. At the end of the month, start again with the first ten.

I am amazed they are paying after the first 24 hours (If I read that right) thats just silly on their part.

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Phil Deakins

Prim Savers = low prims

Join date: 17 Jan 2007

Posts: 9,537

01-18-2008 14:32

That's interesting Abyssin. Thank you for the info. I'll check more and more, looking for them.

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Prim Savers - almost 1000 items of superbly crafted, top quality, very low prim furniture, and all at amazingly low prices.

http://slurl.com/secondlife/Seymour/213/120/251/

Phil Deakins

Prim Savers = low prims

Join date: 17 Jan 2007

Posts: 9,537

01-18-2008 14:35

On reflection, you said that they show up in search. I wasn't meaning that. I meant that I haven't seen their Picks used as links to a place. It could be different, but I'll do more checking anyway.

_____________________

Prim Savers - almost 1000 items of superbly crafted, top quality, very low prim furniture, and all at amazingly low prices.

http://slurl.com/secondlife/Seymour/213/120/251/

Phil Deakins

Prim Savers = low prims

Join date: 17 Jan 2007

Posts: 9,537

01-18-2008 14:38

Update:

Now I've seen a "No payment info on file" used, so it's back to my original theory - that the age of the avatar may be the deciding factor.

_____________________

Prim Savers - almost 1000 items of superbly crafted, top quality, very low prim furniture, and all at amazingly low prices.

http://slurl.com/secondlife/Seymour/213/120/251/

Bradley Bracken

Goodbye, Farewell, Amen

Join date: 2 Apr 2007

Posts: 3,856

01-18-2008 17:51

From: Phil Deakins

Update:

Now I've seen a "No payment info on file" used, so it's back to my original theory - that the age of the avatar may be the deciding factor.

I agree with this Phil. It's what I am noticing too.

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Phil Deakins

Prim Savers = low prims

Join date: 17 Jan 2007

Posts: 9,537

01-18-2008 18:25

I wasn't going to post again until someone else had posted, Bradley, or I would be hogging this thread

Since the last post, I've found avs showing that are newer than some that don't show. So it looks like there's more to it than age - that's if age has anything to do with it all. Right now, it's confusing.

_____________________

Prim Savers - almost 1000 items of superbly crafted, top quality, very low prim furniture, and all at amazingly low prices.

http://slurl.com/secondlife/Seymour/213/120/251/

Usagi Musashi

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Join date: 24 Oct 2004

Posts: 6,083

01-18-2008 19:28

From: someone

Handy hint: If you want to know if you avatar is actually there or not, you need to know the key and then go to http://world.secondlife.com/resident/[key] replacing [key] with the avatar key.

Again with this concept.................what the big deal?????????? there are about 20 or more of these website running around no news here.

Phil Deakins

Prim Savers = low prims

Join date: 17 Jan 2007

Posts: 9,537

01-19-2008 03:31

That's the Second Life search site, Usagi - not just another website.

_____________________

Prim Savers - almost 1000 items of superbly crafted, top quality, very low prim furniture, and all at amazingly low prices.

http://slurl.com/secondlife/Seymour/213/120/251/

Usagi Musashi

UM ™®

Join date: 24 Oct 2004

Posts: 6,083

01-19-2008 03:32

phil there are others just like it...

Rigrunner Rang

...Newb

Join date: 23 May 2007

Posts: 162

01-19-2008 05:04

My significant other's avi doesnt show in the search engine and they signed up a couple of days after me...

The new search is odd! lol.

Regarding the picks, i was teleported by a friend to the err interesting 'platinum cafe' not only was that place bot central but they offered 25L for anyone who had the area in the picks and touched a certain box... Well at least that was what was getting announced, didn't stick around to see, way too laggy/scary for my liking over there.

It's a shame to see the search engine being gamed so much, I noticed on the parcel I work on we lost a placement because a 'competitor' (someone selling freebies grrr!!) used the same keywords repeatedly on a ton of prims over their land. Gutting that we lost our placement because of that!

So...game with 'em? Leave it and struggle? It's a tough choice...

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Visit Knockout!
http://slurl.com/secondlife/Junlong/164/135/51

Phil Deakins

Prim Savers = low prims

Join date: 17 Jan 2007

Posts: 9,537

01-19-2008 06:35

I don't find that a tough chaoice at all. I'm a realist, so I deal with what's before me.

_____________________

Prim Savers - almost 1000 items of superbly crafted, top quality, very low prim furniture, and all at amazingly low prices.

http://slurl.com/secondlife/Seymour/213/120/251/

Marianne Little

A hopeless fool

Join date: 14 Aug 2007

Posts: 645

01-19-2008 09:12

This opens possibilities. Most ppl put their friends/partners or Dom/subs in their picks, along with a few favourite places.

I have used Linden empty land for personal picks, since I will not be traced by stalkers. Then I edit it, put in my own text and picture. The LM remains the same. Those who TP there, end up in empty water.

So...it's only the LM that matters, meaning that it's to pick shops that pay, put them as picks and edit it as much as I want. And collect 200 L every month for to say what I want. Those who control the picks must do it automatically, not by persons who read what's written there?

And if I don't need 200 L a month, but I have a friend with a gallery. I can TP to his gallery and choose 10 picks there. Then edit them and use it for personal comments. BUT it will still be counted as 10 picks in search?

The last sounds really nice to me, but I see it can be overused.

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Abyssin Otoro Registered User Join date: 22 Jun 2006 Posts: 48	01-18-2008 14:03 From: Phil Deakins A while back I suggested that newer avs' Picks aren't counted, but I'm now convinced that I was mistaken. I now believe that an av must have "Payment info used" for its Picks to count as a links to places. I checked quite a few such links and they all had that. None even had "Payment info on file", but that doesn't rule it out. It means that Picks from unpaid-for alts are no good. It also means that places that offer money for Picks are highly unlikely to offer it to everyone. If they do, it'll be a waste of money. The system can check on those details for an av, so it's likely that some people will be accepted, and some won't. Interesting idea, but I can confirm that some "No payment info on file" avatars do show up in search (how? I have an alt, for testing permissions and things, with no payment info, and they show up just fine). It could be the age (mine is quite old), or it could be any number of other things. One thing I do know for certain. The search is still new and has definitly not indexed everything yet, so it could simply be that it has not got around to those missing avatars yet. I wonder if it has picked up all the parcels yet. Also there are the missing parcels and avatars (that was mentioned on the blog not long ago http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/01/08/search-changes-tomorrow/ ), even if they are now all in there as of today, it will still take some time for them to get indexed. Handy hint: If you want to know if you avatar is actually there or not, you need to know the key and then go to http://world.secondlife.com/resident/[key] replacing [key] with the avatar key. Mine is (as an example) http://world.secondlife.com/resident/74821483-6ae9-4b5d-b669-0dcad97de4fa
Dinalya Dawes =^.^= Join date: 23 Sep 2007 Posts: 424	01-18-2008 14:09 From: Lindal Kidd But you only have to keep it there for 24 hours. I can see people making a career of this. 10 picks x 200 per day = 2000 per day Just run around and sign up with ten new stores every day. At the end of the month, start again with the first ten. I am amazed they are paying after the first 24 hours (If I read that right) thats just silly on their part. _____________________ http://slgrandillusion.blogspot.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinalyadawes/
Phil Deakins Prim Savers = low prims Join date: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 9,537	01-18-2008 14:32 That's interesting Abyssin. Thank you for the info. I'll check more and more, looking for them. _____________________ Prim Savers - almost 1000 items of superbly crafted, top quality, very low prim furniture, and all at amazingly low prices. http://slurl.com/secondlife/Seymour/213/120/251/
Phil Deakins Prim Savers = low prims Join date: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 9,537	01-18-2008 14:35 On reflection, you said that they show up in search. I wasn't meaning that. I meant that I haven't seen their Picks used as links to a place. It could be different, but I'll do more checking anyway. _____________________ Prim Savers - almost 1000 items of superbly crafted, top quality, very low prim furniture, and all at amazingly low prices. http://slurl.com/secondlife/Seymour/213/120/251/
Phil Deakins Prim Savers = low prims Join date: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 9,537	01-18-2008 14:38 Update: Now I've seen a "No payment info on file" used, so it's back to my original theory - that the age of the avatar may be the deciding factor. _____________________ Prim Savers - almost 1000 items of superbly crafted, top quality, very low prim furniture, and all at amazingly low prices. http://slurl.com/secondlife/Seymour/213/120/251/
Bradley Bracken Goodbye, Farewell, Amen Join date: 2 Apr 2007 Posts: 3,856	01-18-2008 17:51 From: Phil Deakins Update: Now I've seen a "No payment info on file" used, so it's back to my original theory - that the age of the avatar may be the deciding factor. I agree with this Phil. It's what I am noticing too. _____________________ My interest in SL has simply died. Thanks for all the laughs
Phil Deakins Prim Savers = low prims Join date: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 9,537	01-18-2008 18:25 I wasn't going to post again until someone else had posted, Bradley, or I would be hogging this thread Since the last post, I've found avs showing that are newer than some that don't show. So it looks like there's more to it than age - that's if age has anything to do with it all. Right now, it's confusing. _____________________ Prim Savers - almost 1000 items of superbly crafted, top quality, very low prim furniture, and all at amazingly low prices. http://slurl.com/secondlife/Seymour/213/120/251/
Usagi Musashi UM ™® Join date: 24 Oct 2004 Posts: 6,083	01-18-2008 19:28 From: someone Handy hint: If you want to know if you avatar is actually there or not, you need to know the key and then go to http://world.secondlife.com/resident/[key] replacing [key] with the avatar key. Again with this concept.................what the big deal?????????? there are about 20 or more of these website running around no news here.
Phil Deakins Prim Savers = low prims Join date: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 9,537	01-19-2008 03:31 That's the Second Life search site, Usagi - not just another website. _____________________ Prim Savers - almost 1000 items of superbly crafted, top quality, very low prim furniture, and all at amazingly low prices. http://slurl.com/secondlife/Seymour/213/120/251/
Usagi Musashi UM ™® Join date: 24 Oct 2004 Posts: 6,083	01-19-2008 03:32 phil there are others just like it...
Rigrunner Rang ...Newb Join date: 23 May 2007 Posts: 162	01-19-2008 05:04 My significant other's avi doesnt show in the search engine and they signed up a couple of days after me... The new search is odd! lol. Regarding the picks, i was teleported by a friend to the err interesting 'platinum cafe' not only was that place bot central but they offered 25L for anyone who had the area in the picks and touched a certain box... Well at least that was what was getting announced, didn't stick around to see, way too laggy/scary for my liking over there. It's a shame to see the search engine being gamed so much, I noticed on the parcel I work on we lost a placement because a 'competitor' (someone selling freebies grrr!!) used the same keywords repeatedly on a ton of prims over their land. Gutting that we lost our placement because of that! So...game with 'em? Leave it and struggle? It's a tough choice... _____________________ Visit Knockout! http://slurl.com/secondlife/Junlong/164/135/51
Phil Deakins Prim Savers = low prims Join date: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 9,537	01-19-2008 06:35 I don't find that a tough chaoice at all. I'm a realist, so I deal with what's before me. _____________________ Prim Savers - almost 1000 items of superbly crafted, top quality, very low prim furniture, and all at amazingly low prices. http://slurl.com/secondlife/Seymour/213/120/251/
Marianne Little A hopeless fool Join date: 14 Aug 2007 Posts: 645	01-19-2008 09:12 This opens possibilities. Most ppl put their friends/partners or Dom/subs in their picks, along with a few favourite places. I have used Linden empty land for personal picks, since I will not be traced by stalkers. Then I edit it, put in my own text and picture. The LM remains the same. Those who TP there, end up in empty water. So...it's only the LM that matters, meaning that it's to pick shops that pay, put them as picks and edit it as much as I want. And collect 200 L every month for to say what I want. Those who control the picks must do it automatically, not by persons who read what's written there? And if I don't need 200 L a month, but I have a friend with a gallery. I can TP to his gallery and choose 10 picks there. Then edit them and use it for personal comments. BUT it will still be counted as 10 picks in search? The last sounds really nice to me, but I see it can be overused.

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