He has listed all the patches.
Be sure to vote on them!
- Major viewer memory leak (about 1MB per minute)
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-364
- Keyboard shortcuts for debug-menu, client, render, features
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-349
- Limit excess particle generation
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-418
- Allow typing of Unicode characters
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-459
- Abuse report tool should autofill abuser name
when reporting an object
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-597
- Excess texture buffer memory size resulting in disk
thrashing, crashes, virt memory swapping
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-733
- Blurry graphics on low end video boards
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-778
- Avatars sometimes folding up
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-132
- Avatars looking cross eyed
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1203
- Possible crash when closing profile on lagggy days
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1221
- Moving camera through arrow keys broken
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1233
Small issues and minor fixes:
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-176
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-856
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-873
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-941
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Dzonatas Sol
Visual Learner
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06-18-2007 08:28
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Strife Onizuka
Moonchild
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06-18-2007 08:34
Nicholaz has been working on memory leaks in the client now for a while now and does some pretty decent work; most of his patches have been undisputed on the Dev list.
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Truth is a river that is always splitting up into arms that reunite. Islanded between the arms, the inhabitants argue for a lifetime as to which is the main river. - Cyril Connolly Without the political will to find common ground, the continual friction of tactic and counter tactic, only creates suspicion and hatred and vengeance, and perpetuates the cycle of violence. - James Nachtwey |
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RobbyRacoon Olmstead
Red warrior is hungry!
Join date: 20 Sep 2006
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06-18-2007 09:00
He has listed all the patches. Be sure to vote on them! - Major viewer memory leak (about 1MB per minute) https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-364 - Keyboard shortcuts for debug-menu, client, render, features https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-349 - Limit excess particle generation https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-418 - Allow typing of Unicode characters https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-459 - Abuse report tool should autofill abuser name when reporting an object https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-597 - Excess texture buffer memory size resulting in disk thrashing, crashes, virt memory swapping https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-733 - Blurry graphics on low end video boards https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-778 - Avatars sometimes folding up https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-132 - Avatars looking cross eyed https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1203 - Possible crash when closing profile on lagggy days https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1221 - Moving camera through arrow keys broken https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1233 Small issues and minor fixes: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-176 https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-856 https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-873 https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-941 Thank you for the links! . _____________________
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Dnali Anabuki
Still Crazy
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06-18-2007 09:11
Nicholaz has been working on memory leaks in the client now for a while now and does some pretty decent work; most of his patches have been undisputed on the Dev list. Thanks Strife. I feel somewhat reassured and will give this a try. |
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Raynor Hammerer
Linguistic Rabbit
Join date: 21 Feb 2007
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06-18-2007 10:10
His latest version (17d) seems to have solved the cross-eyed bug.
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Sally Silvera
live music maniac
Join date: 17 Feb 2007
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06-18-2007 10:14
btw in his latest version, he's fixed the wonky eye problem
 . oh and apparently someone at LL admitted not fixing the memory leak thingy in their latest viewer, which they did intend to do, was a major erm......... idiot thing on their part. Nicholaz posted this link in another thread: http://www.secondlifeinsider.com/2007/06/14/leaks-still-leaking/ |
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Brenda Connolly
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06-18-2007 12:49
Can someone tell me what exactly has to be downloaded and installed from the directory page the link takes me to?
EDIT: Never Mind. I got it. Right off the bat It loads a Hell of a lot faster than the regular viewer. _____________________
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Shadow Pointe
Respect Mah Authoratah!
Join date: 13 Aug 2006
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06-18-2007 15:20
Because he cares? And isn't distracted by trying to make money? You would think that they would just hire him and 'delete' that 70 percent who aren't doing anything, and save money... :/ |
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Brenda Connolly
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06-19-2007 06:03
You would think that they would just hire him and 'delete' that 70 percent who aren't doing anything, and save money... :/ All they have to do is put them into Inventory, they will disappear soon enough. BTW I used this thingy all last night with a switch back to the default viewer for control purposes. Even to my untrained eye the thing works better. Load up is cut in half, Hi lag areas are less so, it just seems a bit smoother. If I ever see this Nicholaz guy in world I'm gonna run up to him and give him a big wet one Almost forgot. The Cross Eyes are no more!!!! _____________________
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danielluh Ashton
Pink's Props
Join date: 28 Feb 2007
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06-20-2007 05:11
this improves my game play . i using it for some days and sl is really fun now
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Markubis Brentano
Hi...YAH!!
Join date: 15 Apr 2006
Posts: 836
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06-20-2007 05:29
If the coder has submitted his code to LL for review, we have hopes of eventually seeing these improvements added to the authorized client. LL would be rather stupid to ignore a fix for their persistent memory leak issues. Until then, I'm on Mac, so I have no choice but to wait. But even if he offered a Mac version, I still would have a hard time trusting any hacked SL client, no matter how good or noble the author is reputed to be. Just too much chance for something bad to be slipped in with all the shiny good things, and so I wouldn't use it, for the same reason I wouldn't used a hacked ATM to access my RL bank account. I feel the same way Ceera. While I realize that the coder has done an excellent job of creating a viewer that runs much better, I am still wary about using something not distributed by LL. I understand that his credentials back him up and that he has submitted numerous fixes to LL for bug fixes, and I mean no disrespect towards him....but didn't the coders that created the copybot and the some of the other nefarious programs in SL also contribute worthwhile bug fixes to LL? Sure, no ones had any issues with money disappearing yet or passwords stolen, but who's to say that there isn't a "trojan horse" in the code that is timed to act at a certain time. Why steal passwords and money now when only a few people are using the client when it would be more beneficial to wait several months and strike when many people will be affected? Again, I mean no direspect to Nicholaz, but I am wary of anything not distributed by LL...and those are my reasons for not using this viewer. I hope I'm wrong and just being paranoid Nicholaz....the viewer sounds great and would love to try it. Keep up the good work. |
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Brenda Connolly
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06-20-2007 05:32
Again, I mean no direspect to Nicholaz, but I am wary of anything not distributed by LL...and those are my reasons for not using this viewer. I hope I'm wrong and just being paranoid Nicholaz....the viewer sounds great and would love to try it. Keep up the good work. A lot of people are becoming wary of anything distributed BY Linden.......  _____________________
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Markubis Brentano
Hi...YAH!!
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06-20-2007 06:14
A lot of people are becoming wary of anything distributed BY Linden....... haha good point but even still....better to have LL be responsible than an independant. |
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Strife Onizuka
Moonchild
Join date: 3 Mar 2004
Posts: 5,887
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06-20-2007 06:33
Nicholaz has released a new version.
http://www.blueflash.cc/users/nicholaz/nicholaz-17e.zip http://www.blueflash.cc/users/nicholaz/ * Nicholaz 17e vs. 17d - avatars jerky movements (VWR-1217, patch by Giggs Taggart) - nice leak when running multiple instances of the viewers (VWR-1296) (kudos to Sardonyx Linden for catching this one) * Nicholaz 17d vs. 17b (17c skipped) - avatars looking cross eyed (VWR-1203, patch by Giggs Taggart) - camera arrow movement vs. chat history (VWR-1233, patch by Iskar Ariantho) - now writes nicholaz-xxx.log in the program folder - ability to create log when starting as "nichoalz.exe 2>sl.log" - limited max texture size to 1024x1024 - experimentally enabled SSE2 extensions - experimentally changed internal texture buffer flushing - experimentally enabled sbh fallback when lbh not available * Nicholaz 17b vs. 17a - enabled microsoft low fragmentation heap - preliminary fix for "rouge particles" (SVC-193, VWR-717) - fixed debug console - fixed possible crash VWR-1221 * Nicholaz 17a vs. Linden V1.17.0.12 - fixed the big memory leak - fixed particle system (erratic generation) - fixed texture buffer size (too large or too small sometimes) - fixed "C++ Buffer Overrun" crash in various situations - changed keyboard shortcuts (avoid issues with European "{ [ ] }" ) - optimized memory allocatoin - optimized compile for speed and P4 processors - 3d part patches: VWR-248, VWR-579, VWR-459 - various minor issues (not end user relevant) http://www.blueflash.cc/users/nicholaz/Source-17e.zip _____________________
Truth is a river that is always splitting up into arms that reunite. Islanded between the arms, the inhabitants argue for a lifetime as to which is the main river. - Cyril Connolly Without the political will to find common ground, the continual friction of tactic and counter tactic, only creates suspicion and hatred and vengeance, and perpetuates the cycle of violence. - James Nachtwey |
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Brenda Connolly
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06-20-2007 06:41
I'm getting crosseyed in 17e again. I switched back to 17d and am still crosseyed. Is it just me?
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Deira Llanfair
Deira to rhyme with Myra
Join date: 16 Oct 2006
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06-20-2007 06:54
God Dammit this works so good , Nicholaz , you have done all by yourself what a whole team of programers can't . Buddy , you should be the manager of ll's programming department , this was a real upgrade , yep , the real deal , thanks so much for effecting repairs to the client . I can slam through sim borders like they don't exsist , i can go to the laggyist places in sl and no lag , I got more horse power and feel like I'm finally getting my money's worth . Linden Lab , stand up and take notice of what this man has done , hatz off to you Nicholaz . Seconded! When I run the LL client, sooner or later I expect to crash. No repeatable reason for this - I can be doing anything or nothing when the client goes down and the crash logger comes in. When I run Nicholaz's version, I do not crash. (Not yet anyway after about 5 hours use when I would have expected on average to go down twice.) What more can I say? _____________________
Deira
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Incony Hathaway
Registered User
Join date: 18 Feb 2007
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hatz off to you Nicholaz seconded...thirded...
06-30-2007 10:16
yes...at last some real independent input. now... could it be made to live link urls and exe`s? something that sl sucks at.
Yes too, i understand the fears regarding intrusion. They are everywhere else too, not just SL. but just to have an independent viewer.. wow.. so cool.. so clever..and it works... now we just need independent servers... laughs.. |
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Damet Neumann
Registered User
Join date: 21 Apr 2006
Posts: 140
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06-30-2007 11:11
If he can make SL work better, I'll buy him a new love machine hell if he makes it work a lot better il be his love machine |
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Dnali Anabuki
Still Crazy
Join date: 17 Oct 2006
Posts: 1,633
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06-30-2007 11:50
I love 17e. Nicholaz, you rock.
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Nina Stepford
was lied to by LL
Join date: 26 Mar 2007
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06-30-2007 12:14
its alarming that one guy can fix more bugs in a weekend than 70% of LL's coders can fix in three months.
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Nicholaz Beresford
The Mad Patcher
Join date: 14 May 2007
Posts: 70
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06-30-2007 13:28
Thanks folks for the nice feedback.
Watch my blog or in-world group, I think there will be a 17f tomorrow. http://nicholaz-beresford.blogspot.com/ _____________________
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Dina Vanalten
Registered User
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06-30-2007 16:13
its alarming that one guy can fix more bugs in a weekend than 70% of LL's coders can fix in three months. Amazing isn't it. I think its all about attitude. As a programming manager at one of my jobs, I've had programmers come back and tell me that they couldn't do something in a program after staring at it for several days. I've then look at the same program and had it fixed in less than an hour. - D |
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Dnali Anabuki
Still Crazy
Join date: 17 Oct 2006
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06-30-2007 23:46
Amazing isn't it. I think its all about attitude. As a programming manager at one of my jobs, I've had programmers come back and tell me that they couldn't do something in a program after staring at it for several days. I've then look at the same program and had it fixed in less than an hour. - D Perhaps Nicholaz isn't being distracted by the LL corporate culture. |
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Nicholaz Beresford
The Mad Patcher
Join date: 14 May 2007
Posts: 70
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07-01-2007 10:19
Yes, being able to work at one issue at a time undistracted is probably my biggest advantage over the Lindens.
Having 20+ years of C/C++ programming under my belt and having experience from my own line of software sure also helps, but working at one single problem at a time as if no other problem existed, is what makes those memory leak hunts possible. Nick _____________________
http://nicholaz-beresford.blogspot.com/
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Ramsus Wake
Registered User
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07-01-2007 10:31
Hmm.
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