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Lecktor Hannibal
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03-02-2006 13:58
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did you just offer to rub me? :eek:

Siggy will be soooooo jealous.
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Frans Charming
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03-02-2006 14:27
From: Margaret Mfume

While I'm here, can you tell me if it's still okay to say mild profanities like "...."? I'm not up on the rules du jour.

Say what?
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03-02-2006 14:30
I read their posts like everyone else's. I do pay attention more when they are actually posting something that adds to the discussion going on in the thread.

As far as the program goes, I still don't see any crucial actions taken in making the program evolve into something other than a bunch of people reading and reacting to AR's. No plans to get rid of AR's and implementing a new system of flagging posts? No rewards system being considered since they "loved" the carrots-no sticks idea so much?

IMO, a forum moderator is way more involved and taskful than being in Live-Help or a Mentor. First of all, mods can get AR's. Second, they have forum powers. Third, their actions can result in quicker disciplinary action to other residents.

I think these points should lead to a more official, professional appointment of a moderator. Get a couple of good ones, compensate them, and give them a generic mod name. They don't have to make them a Linden. I'd feel better seeing ForumMod Foo doing all this dirty work and knowing they're getting paid for it. :p
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03-02-2006 14:31
From: Frans Charming
Say w**t?


Please refrain from using the term "what" as it is patently offensive to victims of griefing worldwide. Your insensitivity on this issue has been recorded on your permanent record.
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Enabran Templar
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03-02-2006 14:34
From: Margaret Mfume
Enabran, I was just getting ready to answer your question, thinking you were asking the question of the general community. Now I see you only meant to ask the RM's, otherwise why would the thread be here in their forum?


Haha, well played.
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Margaret Mfume
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03-02-2006 14:36
That is ****** **!
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Joy Honey
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03-02-2006 14:44
From: Margaret Mfume
While I'm here, can you tell me if it's still okay to say mild profanities like "shit"? I'm not up on the rules du jour.


I think you can still say all profanities as long as you're not calling names... or if you use commas... Case in point: ,,,,, this ,,,,, is acceptable, I believe, as is ,,,,, you, you ,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,

But then again, I am easily distracted and even more easily confused
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Margaret Mfume
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03-02-2006 14:48
From: Joy Honey
I think you can still say all profanities as long as you're not calling names... or if you use commas... Case in point: ,,,,, this ,,,,, is acceptable, I believe, as is ,,,,, you, you ,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,

But then again, I am easily distracted and even more easily confused

I thought you fell asleep with your hand resting on the ",".
So then "shit" is okay as long as I'm not calling someone a piece of it?
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Joy Honey
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03-02-2006 14:50
From: Margaret Mfume
I thought you fell asleep with your hand resting on the ",".
So then "shit" is okay as long as I'm not calling someone a piece of it?


exactly :D
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Creami Cannoli
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03-02-2006 14:52
This whole fucking subject is getting on my damn nerves. I am tired of all the shit-stirring in forums these days.


Does that help? :D
Lecktor Hannibal
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03-02-2006 14:53
From: Creami Cannoli
This whole fucking subject is getting on my damn nerves. I am tired of all the shit-stirring in forums these days.


Does that help? :D

Well yesterday we had shit-stabbing ! That was a refreshing change I thought :D
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Margaret Mfume
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03-02-2006 14:57
I just wanted to make sure it was okay for me to go on record as saying that this is a crock of shit.
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03-02-2006 14:58
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This creates an environment RIPE for civil disobedience!

Sadly, like any police force, the ResMods absorb the brunt of the riots while the ones running the show are insulated from the barrage. The lack of a negotiation process to end the ResMod program is a major flaw and THAT is what results in abuse against the Mods.
Color me shocked, Jeska bollixing another attempt to use volunteers to front end the abuse from paid personnel (cf. Live Help). Having been a Live Helper (and resigning) you have to take all the front-end pissed off customer crap and have no authority or power at all: "Gee quicktime crashes your client and you paid L$20k for a tv-thingy? I'm so sorry, but not only can't I help you, but likely no one can and good luck getting a refund from the merchant who ripped you off" or "I can't fit this 20x30 pre-fab on my 20x20 plot and I'm really annoyed and I want to take it out on someone".

Sure, there were a lot of pleasant calls, but by the time someone hit the live help button, they were likely already frustrated. Now if that isn't incentive for for your volunteer force, I don't know what is.

Linden Lab has, since time began, been using the excuse "we don't want to compensate mentors / live helpers / greeters because we want people who are motivated by helping not the material returns". Point is they just don't want to compensate, although they seem to have no trouble printing L$ for camping chair zombies, but no one ever accused them of great consistency.

And the first batch of "Jeska volunteered you to be a ResMod" - those that didn't decline, that is - were trying hard to execute ill-specified tasks with grace. Now that we've entered the second batch - those that had explicitly volunteered, we are stuck with people who sought out the position because it did have compensation: POWER.

One of the most egregious examples is that of Elle, she seems to be delighting over her power and it is really pissing the community off. There may be others but she is by far the most visible. Do I know her motivations? Not at all? Can I infer her motivation from her statements, well, I have.

The program is now attracting people who want to dominate in this little world. Which means that the people least suited to the task are the ones who will pursue it most aggressively and cause the most harm.

If the choice is between closing down the forums and having little dictators run the place, shut them down. This has become a mockery of community.
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03-02-2006 14:58
From: Margaret Mfume
I just wanted to make sure it was okay for me to go on record as saying that this is a crock of shit.


Yes you can... but I bet you can also count yourself OUT for phase III :D
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Lecktor Hannibal
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03-02-2006 15:00
From: Joy Honey
Yes you can... but I bet you can also count yourself OUT for phase III :D

She's out anyway see this thread /274/fd/91253/1.html
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03-02-2006 15:01
From: Lecktor Hannibal
Well yesterday we had shit-stabbing ! That was a refreshing change I thought :D



This is true, we had shit-stabbing. However could I forget? I was trying to eat when I read that damn thread.

I lost my appetite after that CRAP.
Joy Honey
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03-02-2006 15:01
From: Lecktor Hannibal
She's out anyway see this thread /274/fd/91253/1.html


I pretty much figured that, but thanks for the link :)


EDIT*** you are absolutely right, I did not click the link first :D
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Margaret Mfume
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03-02-2006 15:02
From: Joy Honey
Yes you can... but I bet you can also count yourself OUT for phase III :D

My name was never tossed in the hat, Joy, and I've counted myself on the outside since phase I was introduced. :D
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03-02-2006 15:02
From: Joy Honey
Yes you can... but I bet you can also count yourself OUT for phase III :D


Phase 3 is profit right?
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Creami Cannoli
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03-02-2006 15:04
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One of the most egregious examples is that of Elle, she seems to be delighting over her power and it is really pissing the community off.
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Would that fall under shit-stirring or shit-stabbing? Possibly shit-moving? I would at the very least consider it saying a big FU to the forum people about bitching. Like, "see what I can do...and you can't stop me BWAHAHAHAHA."

(Introvert...I am not talking about you, I am trying to guess the motivations.)
Margaret Mfume
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03-02-2006 15:04
From: Lecktor Hannibal
She's out anyway see this thread /274/fd/91253/1.html

Ha! You did do it! :D
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03-02-2006 16:05
From: Taco Rubio
did you just offer to rub me? :eek:

I will rub you. But not Siggy.

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03-02-2006 16:08
How long has this forum been here?

And dig the caption for it:

"Resident Moderators help in making the forums a better place for the entire community."

I would say that is a matter of opinion. And since it is their opinion that it is a matter of, then it shall be ours as well, and we shall not speak of it again except under the banner of this, their/our opinion.

SL: "Your Money, Our Opinion."

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03-02-2006 18:41
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Would that fall under shit-stirring or shit-stabbing? Possibly shit-moving? I would at the very least consider it saying a big FU to the forum people about bitching. Like, "see what I can do...and you can't stop me BWAHAHAHAHA."

(Introvert...I am not talking about you, I am trying to guess the motivations.)
I have to say I'm puzzled, but am likely just not getting the running joke (I can be pretty dense at times).

In case you were serious, I know full well they can stop me at any point they choose.Indeed they have and could do so permanently if they so desire. There comes a time when one's sensabilities bump up against the rules and one or the other has to has to suffer.

My purpose isn't to harm, it is to point out an inherently, irredeemably flawed endeavor. As they say: that and five bucks will get you a cupa' joe.
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03-02-2006 18:54
From: Enabran Templar
Pity that other thread got closed. Some interesting potential there, but meh. Anyway, I have a question.

Do you ignore ResMods? My question is inspired by this quote:

[...]

It's all very exhausting to read, adds nothing to the forum, and I just tune it out.

If the answer is yes, doesn't this lack of credibility speak poorly for the program, even if everything else had been implemented properly?


this is why i use my alt account to resmod the forums.
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